Kakuzu's earth spear is overated

are people exaggerating the effectivness of this jutsu


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slaton02

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This is exactly the overrating I'm talking about. It's diamond hard, it wouldn't take something as ridiculously strong as particle style to overcome it. Diamond just isn't that strong.

He just said Dust release would destroy it. EGF is right up there with the 3rd raikages shield. It has survive through pretty powerful stuff like explosives, human boulder, and Kakuzu naturally durable was able to survive rasenshuriken (real f***ed up though) combine 5 lives with EGF = hard mofo to kill. You obviously don't know how hard diamond is
 
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They just recently found a substance harder than diamond. The only way to even scratch diamond is with another diamond. It is insanely strong. What else could destroy it besides raiton or extremely OP jutsu like jinton?

Giant ransengan or other jutsu of that caliber, a punch from Tsunade, or a hit from Gamabunta.
 

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Giant ransengan or other jutsu of that caliber, a punch from Tsunade, or a hit from Gamabunta.

He can tank an Odama Rasengan, a punch from Tsunade and a punch from Gamabunta. That doesn't break his Domu.
 

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He just said Dust release would destroy it. EGF is right up there with the 3rd raikages shield. It has survive through pretty powerful stuff like explosives, human boulder, and Kakuzu naturally durable was able to survive rasenshuriken (real f***ed up though) combine 5 lives with EGF = hard mofo to kill.

Yes he is. I just want people in VS threads to stop saying that it can take something like Tsunade's punch. Or say a ransengan from Minato without a scratch. Can we agree on that level of durability?
 

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Giant ransengan or other jutsu of that caliber, a punch from Tsunade, or a hit from Gamabunta.
No, no and no. Diamonds FORM at 400,000 pounds of pressure. None of those can mimic that
 

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Yes he is. I just want people in VS threads to stop saying that it can take something like Tsunade's punch. Or say a ransengan from Minato without a scratch. Can we agree on that level of durability?

He can tank Minato's Rasengan and Tsunade's punch...
 

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Giant ransengan or other jutsu of that caliber, a punch from Tsunade, or a hit from Gamabunta.

He would tank those dude that's how hard it is, you maybe underrating it if you think it can't tank those. Yup no doubt in my mind you are underrating it.
 
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They just recently found a substance harder than diamond. The only way to even scratch diamond is with another diamond. It is insanely strong. What else could destroy it besides raiton or extremely OP jutsu like jinton?

Yes, he'd be immune to any blade except maybe one enhanced with lightning or wind. I'm not denying that it's an extremely useful jutsu. I just want it to be clear that it wouldn't take an insanely powerful technique (like say susano) to do damage. Things like great fire annihilation and human bolder might be useless but not something like giant ransengan.
 

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Yes, he'd be immune to any blade except maybe one enhanced with lightning or wind. I'm not denying that it's an extremely useful jutsu. I just want it to be clear that it wouldn't take an insanely powerful technique (like say susano) to do damage. Things like great fire annihilation and human bolder might be useless but not something like giant ransengan.

And yet you say Domu is overrated... Domu tanks all the jutsu you listed except Raiton enhanced blade.
 

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Yes, he'd be immune to any blade except maybe one enhanced with lightning or wind. I'm not denying that it's an extremely useful jutsu. I just want it to be clear that it wouldn't take an insanely powerful technique (like say susano) to do damage. Things like great fire annihilation and human bolder might be useless but not something like giant ransengan.
Yes something like giant rasengan. It tanks that relatively easily. He might get blown back a bit, but no damage will be done to him. Diamonds are formed once again, at 400,000 pounds of pressure. Thats 100 MILES underground. If they can withstand ridiculous pressure like that, they can tank a oodama rasengan. Susano'o slashes shouldnt even be able to do much realistically
 

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He would tank those dude that's how hard it is, you maybe underrating it if you think it can't tank those. Yup no doubt in my mind you are underrating it.

Minato made a huge crater.
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Tsunade made a fissure in the ground with her INDEX FINGER!
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I don't think diamond could tank either of these without damage.

This is what I mean when people are overrating this jutsu.
 

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Minato made a huge crater.
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Tsunade made a fissure in the ground with her INDEX FINGER!
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I don't think diamond could tank either of these without damage.

This is what I mean when people are overrating this jutsu.
100 Miles worth of pressure > Cracks in the ground
 

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Yes something like giant rasengan. It tanks that relatively easily. He might get blown back a bit, but no damage will be done to him. Diamonds are formed once again, at 400,000 pounds of pressure. Thats 100 MILES underground. If they can withstand ridiculous pressure like that, they can tank a oodama rasengan. Susano'o slashes shouldnt even be able to do much realistically

Read my latest reply. But what effect on the ground are we talking about here? I'd like to know in case I'm wrong.
 

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Minato made a huge crater.
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Tsunade made a fissure in the ground with her INDEX FINGER!
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I don't think diamond could tank either of these without damage.

This is what I mean when people are overrating this jutsu.
Doesn't matter, Domu still tanks it.
 

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Read my latest reply. But what effect on the ground are we talking about here? I'd like to know in case I'm wrong.
Im not sure what you mean by "what affect on the ground are we talking about here" The pressure stems from the sheer weight of 100 miles of earth laying on top of it
 

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Minato made a huge crater.
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Tsunade made a fissure in the ground with her INDEX FINGER!
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I don't think diamond could tank either of these without damage.

This is what I mean when people are overrating this jutsu.

You just proved you underrate the toughness of diamond and EGF
 

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Doesn't matter, Domu still tanks it.

Still deciding on this. However, the harder things get, the less flexible they become. That's a fact of hardness.

According to your argument, Tsunade's strength couldn't do a thing to is. That means that his strength would have to be enhanced beyond her own in order to move quickly or at all. This is strength that he hasn't demonstrated.
 

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To answer your question, 500- 1200 feet underwater will cause the body to implode. Imagine that being earth instead of water, and 100 MILES
 

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Still deciding on this. However, the harder things get, the less flexible they become. That's a fact of hardness.

According to your argument, Tsunade's strength couldn't do a thing to is. That means that his strength would have to be enhanced beyond her own in order to move quickly or at all. This is strength that he hasn't demonstrated.

Tsunade's punch and an Odama Rasengan can't break Domu. BTW, just leaving this here.
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