[VS] Kakuzu Vs. Chiyo and Sakura

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I find the noobs cute <3​

Cute, but they sure are some persistent little buggers ain't dey?

 

[phylos]

The conclusion is: Kakuzu takes this low diff. They have no counter to Domu since none of them has Raiton. All he needs is to run up to them and smack them both with Doton Domu hardened fists.

No, I'm pretty sure that's not the conclusion to this whole discussion, then again who knows where you studied logic and reasoning (or if you did at all).
The conclusion I can take from this last post, however, is that the only way to defeat Kakuzu, according to you, is with lightning release and, in such case, then Madara Uchiha and Hashirama Senju would beg to differ, and those are just the two most farfetched examples.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

How the hell did this thread match up get 5 pages in 1 day.

 

[Joshutsu]

The conclusion is: Kakuzu takes this low diff. They have no counter to Domu since none of them has Raiton. All he needs is to run up to them and smack them both with Doton Domu hardened fists.

As if it would be that easy, if he ever beat them it would be high difficulty. He isn't that good.

Three Jewels Suction Crushing could handle is flying hearts.

Mechanical Light Shield Block for attacks from the hearts. Not full coverage but it can come in handy.

Sealing Technique: Lion Closing Roar, can outsmart him to get him with that if naruto could outsmart him i don't see why not. Theres always poison as well

 

[Shura]

As if it would be that easy, if he ever beat them it would be high difficulty. He isn't that good.

Three Jewels Suction Crushing could handle is flying hearts.

Mechanical Light Shield Block for attacks from the hearts. Not full coverage but it can come in handy.

Sealing Technique: Lion Closing Roar, can outsmart him to get him with that if naruto could outsmart him i don't see why not. Theres always poison as well

Give me a counter to Atsugai, Gian and Zukkoku. U_U Oh wait, they don't have any.

 

[Joshutsu]

Give me a counter to Atsugai, Gian and Zukkoku. U_U Oh wait, they don't have any.

They just dodge like kakashi shikamaru INO AND CHOJI xD theres slow build up to those big moves so if they manage to dodge one they have time before another big one IMO counters don't always particularly determine a victory. I never said they would 100% win but i am saying if kakuzu won it would be high difficulty. He can't just run up to them and use that domu w/e and the show is over. It never happens that way. He would be stupid to rush in on a puppet user anyways.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

My take in this fight (I have not read the discussion)

Location: (We are inside a huge dome shaped cave) this makes it harder for Sakura and Chiyo to dodge Kakuzu mask's elemental attacks, do to the restriced suroundings, so already there Kakuzu will have an advantage.

Knowledge(intel): you say there are none, but really, are you telling me that Kakuzu, "the bounty hunter" won't have any intel, what so ever on such an old and famous shinobi as Chiyo? (even Chiyo herself brags about the fact that she was known for capturing a castle alone with 10 puppets) So it's pretty logical to expect that Kakuzu will know that Chiyo is a very skilled Puppetere, and by knowing that he should also know that almost all puppeters use poison on their weapons and puppets.
So here again, I will give Kakuzu the advantage. (lets just disregard Sakura here, she would not know anything about Kakuzu, nor about her teammate actually... another minus for them)

Restrictions: None, and here im just thinking, if Kakuzu can use his fire mask and his wind mask at the same time to make a combined attack with those 2 natures what is standing in his way to mix up other elements? sure we have not seen him do others than the fire/wind combo, but are you really telling me that a Shinobi as old and as experience as Kakuzu, one that can use all 5 elements to such a extream as he can, have only managed to combine 2 elements? And yes I know it was never shown in the Manga or the Anime that he could use others, but I would still expect he could use more than just fire/wind.

Distance: The distance is far enough for Kakuzu to be able to releace 4 of his mask, and even if Chiyo and Sakura start a frontal assault to close to gab betwean them instantly, all Kakuzu needs to do is jump backwards, and he would have gained himself all the time in the world for his for masks to be released (wind, fire, water and the lightning mask) and then begin his elemental bombartment.

Age/Experience: Sakura havn't really been around for to long to be that experience, though she is pretty clever, so she should be pretty quick to analyse Kakuzu's moves and attack's, if she survives that long. Sakura might be able to dish out super human damage, but how well does she tank it herself? A Doton Dumu hardened fist or Kick will easily break bones. And Sakura will need at least one hand to be able to use her Medical Ninjutsu, if Kakuzu managed to break both her hands, or simply rip them off, she is done for.
Chiyo is very old, not as old as Kakuzu (who is 96) but she is deffenetly past her prime, even though she have replace one of her arms with a puppet arm, that won't change the fact that she won't be as strong as she used to be.
Kakuzu have never been as strong as he is now, do to the fact that he have replace his intire body, mussels, organs, ecetera with threads. (he only have his eyes, his skin and his 5 hearts left) So just like Sasori, the only way to kill him Is to destroy his heart, and he have 5 of those...

Which means that Kakuzu is Immune to Poisen. (as long as a poisoned blade don't penetrade any of his 5 hearts) So a random cut on his arm, chest (or whatever) won't do anything to him, which mean that he won't be forced to use his Doton Domu to tank the poison coated weapons but can go on the offensive if he so desires.

And the fact that Kakuzu could play dead and attack them when their guard is down is a huge, huge advantage for Kakuzu, heck he might even be able to Take out Sakura this way, if she have even managed to survive that long...

some feats Kakuzu have done:

Kakuzu Bit** slapped Asuma with a brief case.
Broke down a gigantic iron gate with a single punc.
Outmatched Kakashi in taijutzu.
Out smarted kakashi with a water clone.
Blitzed kakashi when Kakshi had taken down the first of his heart (and had it not been for plot no jitsu involved Kakuzu could have punched him in the back of his head with a Domu hardened fist, which would have taken his head clean off!)

Kakuzu tanked Choiji's Human Boulder attack, if he can do that, he can also tank Sakuras punch, and he you might be thinking that I am just grasping after straws, but I really don't think I am.

People just don't grasp how good of a defensive tecnique Kakuzu's earth spear actually is (It is as though as diamond! and the only think that can destroy a diamond is another diamond, or an extream high tempature)

To be able to penetrade Kakuzu's earth spear you will have to have a high level lightning ability (as states in the manga) which neither Chiyo or Sakura have or a weapon made out of diamond (which neither of them have) the tecnique pretty much makes Kakuzu invinciable, so Kakuzu could just Domu up and stand there doing nothing, while his 4 masks are runnung around, and Chiyo and Sakura would have no way to counter his Jutzu.

and with those feats how would Chiyo and her puppets, led alone Sakura even stand a chance against him?

This.

Sakura can heal without using her hands

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And she can use CES in her legs too

Sakura can heal herself...but Kakuzu can just as easily kill her with Brute Force via an Iron Skin fist.....I mean if he crushes her to death before she heals herself...well she dies.

Also, he can just take her heart....

 

[Cornson]

This.


Sakura can heal herself...

I agreeded with that on the last page (someone already showed me that page)

 

[TheTailedSage]

Kakazu wins mid diff. The only reason why they won against sasori is because they had knowledge and they struggled on him. One or two hearts take care of sakura and kakazu takes care of chiyo. It would be a decent fight though

 

[Sunagura]

i not do sure about that. chiyo could give kakuzu a run for money. most of kakuzu attack can be tank by chakra sheild.

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fire, lightning and wind won't be a preblem, chiyo have insta in her armand capeble of protect the hold body. with mother and father she will capeble of protect her self and sakura.

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chiyo have a xelent taijutsu combind with her string of corse we saw it when she ***ht naruto and his clone. and she have a better taijutsu score in databok than kakuzu.

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genjutsu will not play a part in this so genjutsu is out of the game. and of course intteligen will play a huge part wich chiyo is very good at planing thing and in data book she got 5 wiled kakuzu got 4,5. one again she beat her in itteligen.
posion also work on kakuzu wich chiyo is very good at. kakuzu won't out smart her that it.

when it come to streth sakra top kakuzu. but chiyo is also not far behind.

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and speed kakuzu is not going to bliz chiyo. we saw the super speed puppet fight and got the same speed as kakuzu in data book. she block super speed iron sand bullet and super hiper sonic speed iron sand attack. what we see so far from kakuzu is nothing she can not dodge or stop and kakuzu don't have iron sand to stop chakra sheild eather.

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and if they some how got injur they can heal them self

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that for defences and now for attack.

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by using this jutsu she can manipulat the kunai and her chakra string she can put chakra string on kakuzu with out he knowing it, and she can manipulat him of course she can't hold him down but it will give her time or get out of some difficult situation.

and she can use this and it will be over for kakuzu, he can no longer use chkra and done for.

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and with this jutsu she can destroy all kakuzu mask exept the fire mask it will be a little difficulf to deal with. it even crush a puppet like nothing. a little mask won't be a problem.

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and of course the other puppet can be use as a distraction.
the chara spig puppet.

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and the puppet that can shot paper bomb and can trap thing.

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two bladepupet girl

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and super human puppet as defend or streagth.

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and the puppet that can make a long hair that will probeble can take out all the mask thig at once.

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[alicexgil]

It can go either way But both would be high diff

 

[Optimistic]

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i ot do sure about that. chiyo could give kakuzu a run for money. most of kakuzu attack can be tank by chakra sheild.

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fire, lightning and wind won't be a preblem, chiyo have insta in her armand capeble of protect the hold body. with mother and father she will capeble of protect her self and sakura.

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chiyo have a xelent taijutsu combind with her string of corse we saw it when she ***ht naruto and his clone. and she have a better taijutsu score in databok than kakuzu.

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genjutsu will not play a part in this so genjutsu is out of the game. and of course intteligen will play a huge part wich chiyo is very good at planing thing and in data book she got 5 wiled kakuzu got 4,5. one again she beat her in itteligen.
posion also work on kakuzu wich chiyo is very good at. kakuzu won't out smart her that it.

when it come to streth sakra top kakuzu. but chiyo is also not far behind.

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and speed kakuzu is not going to bliz chiyo. we saw the super speed puppet fight and got the same speed as kakuzu in data book. she block super speed iron sand bullet and super hiper sonic speed iron sand attack. what we see so far from kakuzu is nothing she can not dodge or stop and kakuzu don't have iron sand to stop chakra sheild eather.

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and if they some how got injur they can heal them self

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that for defences and now for attack.

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by using this jutsu she can manipulat the kunai and her chakra string she can put chakra string on kakuzu with out he knowing it, and she can manipulat him of course she can't hold him down but it will give her time or get out of some difficult situation.

and she can use this and it will be over for kakuzu, he can no longer use chkra and done for.

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and with this jutsu she can destroy all kakuzu mask exept the fire mask it will be a little difficulf to deal with. it even crush a puppet like nothing. a little mask won't be a problem.

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and of course the other puppet can be use as a distraction.
the chara spig puppet.

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and the puppet that can shot paper bomb and can trap thing.

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two bladepupet girl

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and super human puppet as defend or streagth.

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and the puppet that can make a long hair that will probeble can take out all the mask thig at once.

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Use a spoiler ffs the images wasn't really necessary.​

 

[Sunagura]

Use a spoiler ffs the images wasn't really necessary.​

it not but just in case

 

[Prestonyoko]

Yeah Kakazu does win this

 

[Sunagura]

it is ether 50/50 or chiyo and sakura win, really want a good ddebate and come prove me that kakuzu tottaly win, and i will prove you wrong

 

[Fanta]

Sakura and Chiyo win high diff. This might even be easier than defeating Kakuzu.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Sakura and Chiyo win high diff. This might even be easier than defeating Kakuzu.

Yup, I agree with you. Chiyo is very underrated here. In the databook she has higher stats then Kakuzu. Even her taijutsu is better, lol. Only her stamina is lower then Kakuzu's.