[VS] Kakuzu Vs. Chiyo and Sakura

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It was an exaggeration and you have yet to realise such.
An exaggeration huh? Ok then...

That one sentence had no replies apart from me

You weren't the only one replying to me...

Yep, still waiting on those manga facts...
I mentioned them, you ignored me and went a completely different route so I asked you to mention the difference between Kirin and other lightning release techniques. I waited for naught.

Anyways I maintain that this battle could go either way and whoever wins it'd be with high difficulty, IMO.
 

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My take in this fight (I have not read the discussion)

Location: (We are inside a huge dome shaped cave) this makes it harder for Sakura and Chiyo to dodge Kakuzu mask's elemental attacks, do to the restriced suroundings, so already there Kakuzu will have an advantage.

Knowledge(intel): you say there are none, but really, are you telling me that Kakuzu, "the bounty hunter" won't have any intel, what so ever on such an old and famous shinobi as Chiyo? (even Chiyo herself brags about the fact that she was known for capturing a castle alone with 10 puppets) So it's pretty logical to expect that Kakuzu will know that Chiyo is a very skilled Puppetere, and by knowing that he should also know that almost all puppeters use poison on their weapons and puppets.
So here again, I will give Kakuzu the advantage. (lets just disregard Sakura here, she would not know anything about Kakuzu, nor about her teammate actually... another minus for them)

Restrictions: None, and here im just thinking, if Kakuzu can use his fire mask and his wind mask at the same time to make a combined attack with those 2 natures what is standing in his way to mix up other elements? sure we have not seen him do others than the fire/wind combo, but are you really telling me that a Shinobi as old and as experience as Kakuzu, one that can use all 5 elements to such a extream as he can, have only managed to combine 2 elements? And yes I know it was never shown in the Manga or the Anime that he could use others, but I would still expect he could use more than just fire/wind.

Distance: The distance is far enough for Kakuzu to be able to releace 4 of his mask, and even if Chiyo and Sakura start a frontal assault to close to gab betwean them instantly, all Kakuzu needs to do is jump backwards, and he would have gained himself all the time in the world for his for masks to be released (wind, fire, water and the lightning mask) and then begin his elemental bombartment.

Age/Experience: Sakura havn't really been around for to long to be that experience, though she is pretty clever, so she should be pretty quick to analyse Kakuzu's moves and attack's, if she survives that long. Sakura might be able to dish out super human damage, but how well does she tank it herself? A Doton Dumu hardened fist or Kick will easily break bones. And Sakura will need at least one hand to be able to use her Medical Ninjutsu, if Kakuzu managed to break both her hands, or simply rip them off, she is done for.
Chiyo is very old, not as old as Kakuzu (who is 96) but she is deffenetly past her prime, even though she have replace one of her arms with a puppet arm, that won't change the fact that she won't be as strong as she used to be.
Kakuzu have never been as strong as he is now, do to the fact that he have replace his intire body, mussels, organs, ecetera with threads. (he only have his eyes, his skin and his 5 hearts left) So just like Sasori, the only way to kill him Is to destroy his heart, and he have 5 of those...
Which means that Kakuzu is Immune to Poisen. (as long as a poisoned blade don't penetrade any of his 5 hearts) So a random cut on his arm, chest (or whatever) won't do anything to him, which mean that he won't be forced to use his Doton Domu to tank the poison coated weapons but can go on the offensive if he so desires.
And the fact that Kakuzu could play dead and attack them when their guard is down is a huge, huge advantage for Kakuzu, heck he might even be able to Take out Sakura this way, if she have even managed to survive that long...

some feats Kakuzu have done:

Kakuzu ***** slapped Asuma with a brief case.
Broke down a gigantic iron gate with a single punc.
Outmatched Kakashi in taijutzu.
Uut smarted kakashi with a water clone.
Blitzed kakashi when Kakshi had taken down the first of his heart (and had it not been for plot no jitsu involved Kakuzu could have punched him in the back of his head with a Domu hardened fist, which would have taken his head clean off!)
Kakuzu tanked Choiji's Human Boulder attack, if he can do that, he can also tank Sakuras punch, and he you might be thinking that I am just grasping after straws, but I really don't think I am.

People just don't grasp how good of a defensive tecnique Kakuzu's earth spear actually is (It is as though as diamond! and the only think that can destroy a diamond is another diamond, or an extream high tempature)

To be able to penetrade Kakuzu's earth spear you will have to have a high level lightning ability (as states in the manga) which neither Chiyo or Sakura have or a weapon made out of diamond (which neither of them have) the tecnique pretty much makes Kakuzu invinciable, so Kakuzu could just Domu up and stand there doing nothing, while his 4 masks are runnung around, and Chiyo and Sakura would have no way to counter his Jutzu.

and with those feats how would Chiyo and her puppets, led alone Sakura even stand a chance against him?

Sakura can heal without using her hands

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And she can use CES in her legs too
 
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Sakura can heal without using her hands

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And she can use CES in her legs too

Sakura can't heal herself without hands U_U.

Anyways, your Sakura will get speed blitzed. Kakuzu is faster than Kakashi and better at Taijutsu than Kakashi. Sakura would be dead in no time.
 

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Sakura can't heal herself without hands U_U.

Anyways, your Sakura will get speed blitzed. Kakuzu is faster than Kakashi and better at Taijutsu than Kakashi. Sakura would be dead in no time.

theres a difference between healing without seals and healing without moving hands

Hashirama tsunade the only people who can heal without seals

Sakura can heal herself and she did it without using her hands

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Sakura is not alone she have chiyo who is faster than kakashi i bet kakashi can dodge all those needles It was like a rain


I agree with that member the fight is

Kakuzu high diff

Or

Chyio and sakura High diff
 
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hmmm, I had completely forgotten about that.

I tip my hat at you good... umm.... sir? Mam, Madam? 0_o?
 

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theres a difference between healing without seals and healing without moving hands

Hashirama tsunade the only people who can heal without seals

Sakura can heal herself and she did it without using her hands

That's just the same old healing jutsu then.

chiyo who is faster than kakashi i bet kakashi can dodge all those needles It was like a rain

Chiyo isn't as fast as Kakashi. :|
 
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hm mm what...

Kakuzu outperformed Kakishi in taijutsu, and blitzed him, he was laying on the ground face dowm when Kakashi rushed towards Hidan, and yet Kakuzu still managed to stand up, run past Hakashi and kick him in the stomach so he wend flying backwards, which was done in a very short time... (there wore less than 30 meters betwean where Kakuzu was downed to where Hidan was standing)

So Kakuzu is clearly faster than Kakashi.
 

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I was talking about Kakashi now :|
If we are talking about Kakashi then then I don't see how Chiyo couldn't be as fast as him, if not more. Sasori showed no surprise about her avoiding all of his attacks, he was more interested in how Sakura did it.
 

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I was talking about Kakashi now :|
If we are talking about Kakashi then then I don't see how Chiyo couldn't be as fast as him, if not more. Sasori showed no surprise about her avoiding all of his attacks, he was more interested in how Sakura did it.

Kakashi is obviously faster than Chiyo...
 

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Kakashi is obviously faster than Chiyo...

Obviously doesn't cut it, prove it. I remember him not being able to catch Deidara and letting him run away. Kakashi now is obviously faster than both and probably solos them but you were talking about the Kakashi from then...
 

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Obviously doesn't cut it, prove it. I remember him not being able to catch Deidara and letting him run away. Kakashi now is obviously faster than both and probably solos them but you were talking about the Kakashi from then...

You seriously think Chiyo is faster than Kakashi... Just :sy:

Now, let me be honest. Kakuzu doesn't even need to use his masks. Domu and the tendrils are enough.

Sakura will easily be taken care of with his superior Taijutsu and speed, and then Kakuzu would just have to break all Chiyo's puppets with Domu hardened fists and run up to Chiyo.

If needed, the threads can go underground and restrain or pierce Sakura and Chiyo.


The idiocy visible in this thread is way too much...

Yeah, I realize that. This was supposed to be a joke/stomp thread. I was joking around with - 6 Paths - and then these idiots came along saying that they can beat Kakuzu. U_U
 

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You seriously think Chiyo is faster than Kakashi... Just :sy:

Now, let me be honest. Kakuzu doesn't even need to use his masks. Domu and the tendrils are enough.

Sakura will easily be taken care of with his superior Taijutsu and speed, and then Kakuzu would just have to break all Chiyo's puppets with Domu hardened fists and run up to Chiyo.

If needed, the threads can go underground and restrain or pierce Sakura and Chiyo.


That is your reply? I wasn't expecting much from a fanboy but gawd lawd, you are not even trying.
 

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That is your reply? I wasn't expecting much from a fanboy but gawd lawd, you are not even trying.

Yes, this is my reply. All Kakuzu needs to do is run up to Chiyo and smack her head. Unless you think Chiyo has better Taijutsu. :leaf:
 

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Yes, this is my reply. All Kakuzu needs to do is run up to Chiyo and smack her head. Unless you think Chiyo has better Taijutsu. :leaf:

I was talking about the part I highlighted by deleting the font style but if you're going to ignore it and of course you are...
No puppeteer is good with taijutsu... neither do they need to be, that's what their puppets are for.
 

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I was talking about the part I highlighted by deleting the font style but if you're going to ignore it and of course you are...
No puppeteer is good with taijutsu... neither do they need to be, that's what their puppets are for.

The conclusion is: Kakuzu takes this low diff. They have no counter to Domu since none of them has Raiton. All he needs is to run up to them and smack them both with Doton Domu hardened fists.
 
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