Kakashi's MS

[zagubus]

is MS a bloodline limit? i dont think so cause kakashi has it. MS you get through killing your friend and all that but its not a bloodline limit at least i dont think do

i guess i had always considered it a bloodline limit because it was something only the uchihas had. but the fact the kakashi has sharingan at all makes it a different scenario. i don't see why he couldn't have just copied it from itachi. after all, during that encounter kakashi knew what was happening, told gai and plant girl to close their eyes. kakashi purposely let himself get caught up in itachi's technique probably for the sole purpose of copying his MS.

ok people this is just a guess when itachi fought sasuke. sasuke's sharingan wasnt complete he had two tomoe so maybe he couldnt copy it. and sharingan you cant just see someone and copy there technique the technique have to be used and seeing as how madara and itachi were "friends" he wouldnt use EMS on itachi. this is just a guess people no problem if you disagree.

i was kind of under the impression that all sharingons were different. i forget where but in one of the threads here i remember reading that each pupil of a sharingon eye has a different effect. one of the pupils is for premonition or anticipation of sorts. it automatically reads the direction of chakra and sends the user data in the form of their opponents next move. this was how kakashi is able to copy jutsus and hand singles. the premonition pupil in his sharingan is more developed than the other pupils. where as itachi's sharingan maybe be more developed in the pupil that lends itself to genjutsu. anyway, if the itachi/sasuke side of the uchia clan was more developed genjutsu then perhaps obito's side of the clan was more inclined to premonition????

sorry, i wish i could remember where i read that info about the inner workings of the sharingon...

 

[Miggy69]

hmm cant remember reading that but it makes sense

 

[QwertyHero]

is MS a bloodline limit? i dont think so cause kakashi has it. MS you get through killing your friend and all that but its not a bloodline limit at least i dont think do



ok people this is just a guess when itachi fought sasuke. sasuke's sharingan wasnt complete he had two tomoe so maybe he couldnt copy it. and sharingan you cant just see someone and copy there technique the technique have to be used and seeing as how madara and itachi were "friends" he wouldnt use EMS on itachi. this is just a guess people no problem if you disagree.

No, the bloodline limit isn't the MS, it's just the sharingan.
The Sharingan is the bloodline limit of the Uchiha's just like the Byakugan is the limit of the Hyuuga's.
Actually, Sasuke had 3 tomoe when he fought Itachi, just like Kakashi, go back and see for yourself.
Yea, well, Itachi used his MS on Sasuke, and there was no copying there so..
And still, going by that logic, wouldn't Kakashi, in theory, have Tsukuyomi since Itachi used it on him?
And wouldn't he have had it right after the fight with Itachi?

 

[zagubus]

No, the bloodline limit isn't the MS, it's just the sharingan.
The Sharingan is the bloodline limit of the Uchiha's just like the Byakugan is the limit of the Hyuuga's.
Actually, Sasuke had 3 tomoe when he fought Itachi, just like Kakashi, go back and see for yourself.
Yea, well, Itachi used his MS on Sasuke, and there was no copying there so..
And still, going by that logic, wouldn't Kakashi, in theory, have Tsukuyomi since Itachi used it on him?
And wouldn't he have had it right after the fight with Itachi?

i think he might have it but hasn't used it yet. Tsukuyomi took a heavy toll on itachi it might be worse for kakashi since he's not an uchiha so he tries not to use it. maybe we'll see it later?

so i found were i read that stuff about the sharingan and it might be rubbish but here it is... turns out it's just someone's theory. it wasn't in this forum but on a web site i found when i should've been working hehe.

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[Eron]

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Can you see somewhere that madara has killed his best friend to activate the MS,cuz it seems his own brother is his best friend(first image),No... So maybe there is a way that you can activate MS without killing your best friend...I dunno,that maybe is not correct,just a theory

 

[zagubus]

so that would explain how kakashi could obtain it. it does seem like the brothers got their MS through hard work and training. which means kakashi could've just trained really hard during the 3 year time skip to obtain his MS. very solid!!!

so then were did the belief that one would have to kill their best friend to obtain the MS come from?

 

[Eron]

so that would explain how kakashi could obtain it. it does seem like the brothers got their MS through hard work and training. which means kakashi could've just trained really hard during the 3 year time skip to obtain his MS. very solid!!!

so then were did the belief that one would have to kill their best friend to obtain the MS come from?

I dunno,maybe thats easier way to activate the MS,it seems like kakashi has chosen the harder one (pls rep me if you think im right)

 

[QwertyHero]

so that would explain how kakashi could obtain it. it does seem like the brothers got their MS through hard work and training. which means kakashi could've just trained really hard during the 3 year time skip to obtain his MS. very solid!!!

so then were did the belief that one would have to kill their best friend to obtain the MS come from?

Well, it was said by Itachi, and it's been proven.
Itachi killed is best friend for it, Sasuke killed his best friend for it [Itachi].
They may be another way, but from what we've seen and heard, there is only one way.
As far as Madara and his brother, I have no clue.
Maybe hard work CAN give you MS, but we don't know as of yet.

 

[Miggy69]

yes i believe training really hard can unlock your MS

 

[Eron]

Sasule works hard too,so maybe he deosnt activate his MS because killing itachi cuz he said that his best friend is naruto...

 

[Miggy69]

Sasule works hard too,so maybe he deosnt activate his MS because killing itachi cuz he said that his best friend is naruto...

sorry cant agree here sasuke doesnt work hard he works HARDLY

 

[Eron]

sorry cant agree here sasuke doesnt work hard he works HARDLY

Rofl...Nobody knows what have happened during this 3 years when he was with Oro

 

[zagubus]

could itachi have given sasuke MS?

haha sounds like an STD...

 

[SAKumono26]

itachi transferd some abilties to saskue and well since saskue thought of itachi as a friend after "the truth "was told 2 him by tobi that made saskue awaken his own bizarely wierd ms
and madra did state i lost my best friend and my brother
and saskue lost both his brother and best firend who where the same person

 

[Eron]

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He has killed his friend...Then I dunno how Kakashi has activated his MS

 

[xRaiKagex]

I think Kakashi's sharingan is different then any others. He actually saw someone die, rather than him killing him. But i DUHNO =\

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper">i think itachi did something to his sharingan to help kakshi gain MS. We know that itachi gave his power to naruto and sasuke why not kakashi, someone he knows can help protect konoha</div>

 

[sgt]

here we see again how misterious kakashi is..
since the first time they've shown kakashi, i knew all along that we would see many surprises from him later on..
First seeing the sharingan and showing every corner of the battlefield to zabuza, later on showing us some hardcore jutsus.
Then he comes of with Rasengan and now with Mangekyou Sharingan.
I am 101% sure that he will surprise us in the future aswell and then we'll all think like:
damn kakashi is really cool but show us ur damn face for gods sake !!

 

[Kagekaze]

once we do see his face he's prolly gonna have teeth like Kisame and Suigetsu jsut to throw another loop at us... or hes not gonna have a face from the nose down...

 

[Neutrino00]

what if kakashi has obtained EMS
he met the requirement of killing his closest friend, even though it was inderectly
which fulfilled the requirment of the Ms but he didn't get Ms because he was not uchiha and didn't have sharingan yet but he still fulfilled the requirement. then he took obito's eye which met the requirment of taking somebodies elses sharingan so he ended up with EMS