finally a voice of reason we have been here how long how many bad points have i been given and u just walk up here with one post and make complete sense thank you!Kakashi will be pushed but with his MS he will win
finally a voice of reason we have been here how long how many bad points have i been given and u just walk up here with one post and make complete sense thank you!Kakashi will be pushed but with his MS he will win
how does kisame beating guy (whos alot better in taijutsu then kakashi) into using 6 gates with one sword swing and one punch mean he can't beat kakashi in taijutsu? and kakashi dosen't have the physical power to perform the tiger that paralysed kisame just because hes fought guy a bunch dosen't mean guy has ever used 7 gates or that attack for him to copy and even if he did kakashi would have to be strong enough to use it first, and isn't manhunter jutsu where he goes underground? if hes using the super shark bomb then theres already alot of water around, so if he can swim to the bottom of it and get underground faster then the shark can shoot straight at him sure.the second time was when he used the lotus which activates the first gate
thats because guy knows he could never beat kakashi at ninjutsu kakashi is konohas jutsu specialist so what do u think guy would do? of course try to beat him at taijutsu which then made him the taijutsu specialist but didnt u see his first real fight vs kisame during the rescue gaara arc? kisame whupped him at taijutsu even while gai was using his nunchaku
and with guys afternoon tiger it really made kisame paralyzed for a while which at that time kakashi would finish him off with raikari like he did to kakuzu the reason why guy and company didnt do so is because they wanted information
and when kisame would use his super shark bomb tech or whatever kakashi could see what the jutsu would do before its even completed and stop kisame or just oh i dont know get out of the way and counter it perhaps by earth style manhunter jutsu
well with kisames healing ability kakashi dosent miss he always hits the heart the only reason why kakuzu survived is because kakashi hit that other heart of his and with kisame knowing all about the sharingan he has already had one of his jutsu copied which was just the regular shark bomb so its not like hes going to use very many other ones but the sharingan is the only thing he knows about kakashi thats it hes never seen his ms or jutsu or anything while kakashi has all the information about it heck he even knew about his sword from the bingo book before akatsuki was even introduced so kakashi would know what to do and how to stop him easy
kisame also beat killer bee who has lightning nature, and when does he ever use earth jutsu besides swiming underground towards them like a shark to add to his gimmic so yeah he uses all water attacks basicly seeing as he can instantly cover the area they are fightning with water and form it into a giant water prison unless kakashi starts off the fight by hiding and has a clone run in at first he'll get traped in that, kakashi could maybe zap him with lightning while hes underwater, wouldn't kill him but maybe slow him downKisame beating kakashi......i'd have to be INCREDIBLY high to believe that.
Look at kakashi's stats:
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They total 34.5......VERY high
Now look at kisame's:
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They total 32.5.....
As if that was'nt obvious enough, kakashi has 4 chakra natures, kisame's only got 2, his(kisame's) water is weak against kakahi's earth, while his earth is weak against kakashi's lightning.
Kakashi wins, no brainer.
Did you see deidara's fight with sasuke? Try and understand what happened, and realize that the size of deidara's bombs or the fact that he beat gaara did NOT matter in the fight with sasuke......deidara was a poor match for him. Same story here, it does'nt matter if kisame makes an actual ocean.....an earth style of the size kakashi makes against pain is enough to beat that technique as earth>waterkisame also beat killer bee who has lightning nature, and when does he ever use earth jutsu besides swiming underground towards them like a shark to add to his gimmic so yeah he uses all water attacks basicly seeing as he can instantly cover the area they are fightning with water and form it into a giant water prison unless kakashi starts off the fight by hiding and has a clone run in at first he'll get traped in that, kakashi could maybe zap him with lightning while hes underwater, wouldn't kill him but maybe slow him down
I saw that fight as sasukes lightning defusing and rendering deidara's bombs useless altogether, removing his main attack like if kakashi's lightning or earth could stop samehada from eating chakra or kisames giant chakra pool and super strenght and endurence. If im missing your point go ahead and explain sorry for not getting it.Did you see deidara's fight with sasuke? Try and understand what happened, and realize that the size of deidara's bombs or the fact that he beat gaara did NOT matter in the fight with sasuke......deidara was a poor match for him. Same story here, it does'nt matter if kisame makes an actual ocean.....an earth style of the size kakashi makes against pain is enough to beat that technique as earth>water
Kakashi could barely handle Zabuza or kakuzu because he had to protect his team which took alot out of him which seems to happen alot... if he were paired up with better ninja such as neji and guy he wouldnt have much to worry aboutkisame because :
1. kakashi lacks chakra cant use sharingan without serious conciquences
2. chakra absorbing sword plus low chakra = death
3.nowhere does it state kakashi can use 8 gates so he cant
4. kisame can absorb all kakashi's jutsu
5. kisame has a high understanding of the sharingan due to being paired with itachi
6. no kakashi cannot copy any and every jutsu he cant copy special jutsu eg. kisames shark jutsu.
7. Kakashi could even handel zabuza hidan or kakuzu so you can forgot about kisame.
oh and seriouslydo you realy think kisame would fall for kakshis sh*t kisame is smart too
why would kakashi know so much about the eight gates if he couldnt do them during lees fight with gaara and kakashi knows samehada can suck his chakra and jutsu so he wouldnt do something stupid whats the point of knowing about the sharingan if u cant do anything about it? kakashi dosent need to copy kisames super shark bomb he can see it coming before kisame even starts the hand seals with zabuzas fight that was 3 years ago and he was too worried about tazuna and his team and he fought on par with hidan and kakuzu and kakuzus hearts while still protecting choji and ino so it cant be blamed if he couldnt manage to take them out why do u think he managed to take out one of kakuzus hearts in the first place? because he didnt have to protect anyonekisame because :
1. kakashi lacks chakra cant use sharingan without serious conciquences
2. chakra absorbing sword plus low chakra = death
3.nowhere does it state kakashi can use 8 gates so he cant
4. kisame can absorb all kakashi's jutsu
5. kisame has a high understanding of the sharingan due to being paired with itachi
6. no kakashi cannot copy any and every jutsu he cant copy special jutsu eg. kisames shark jutsu.
7. Kakashi could even handel zabuza hidan or kakuzu so you can forgot about kisame.
oh and seriouslydo you realy think kisame would fall for kakshis sh*t kisame is smart too
All water style attacks, no matter how powerful, whether they summon sharks, trap their opponents etc are useless against earth style in naruto, it does'nt matter if it appears as if they would overcome a mere wall, they just cannot, just like an average water defense can negate the strongest fire style jutsu.I saw that fight as sasukes lightning defusing and rendering deidara's bombs useless altogether, removing his main attack like if kakashi's lightning or earth could stop samehada from eating chakra or kisames giant chakra pool and super strenght and endurence. If im missing your point go ahead and explain sorry for not getting it.
earth wall could blocks the water, can't remove it from the fight altogether, so he blocks the first shock wave with his earth wall then what about him summoning more water that turns into a giant orb withYou must be registered for see links
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I did say that MS would kill him in my first long reply at the very bottom, i know his kamui could beat him if he cathes him with it its just all his other attacks i think couldn't. he knows about chakra absorbing but i don't think he knows about the fusing or healing parts that might catch him off guard long enough to get nailed, but mehAll water style attacks, no matter how powerful, whether they summon sharks, trap their opponents etc are useless against earth style in naruto, it does'nt matter if it appears as if they would overcome a mere wall, they just cannot, just like an average water defense can negate the strongest fire style jutsu.
Samehada can be defeated by long range non- chakra attacks.....specifically, the ms. Kakashi knows all about kisame and his sword so the intel works for him.
kakashi wouldnt just take off random limbs he does what he always does hits them right and the heart and punch a hole threw their chest like he did too kakuzu however his extra heart saved himI did say that MS would kill him in my first long reply at the very bottom, i know his kamui could beat him if he cathes him with it its just all his other attacks i think couldn't. he knows about chakra absorbing but i don't think he knows about the fusing or healing parts that might catch him off guard long enough to get nailed, but meh