kakashi vs kisame

[Professor Sarutobi]

Guy isn't weaker than Kakashi it's just a bad match up.. Just like Kisame being a bad match up with Guy... He is mainly a taijustu user and Kakashi has the sharingan do the math... he's not supposed to win... and if u say that you might as well say Guy or Kakashi can beat Killer bee

and exactly this, guy is kisame's counter as he uses no chakra to attack, hes a exception just because he beat him dosen't mean every jounin in the leaf could, if anything that means guy was the only one in the leaf who could.

 

[Saisuke]

u do realize that hes the frickin general of the mid range division right?
he said himself hes a mid range fighter he turns raikari into a mid range move like he did against pain wow man just sad :flaw:

U didn't tell me that you said (that)^

 

[Saisuke]

I'm done arguin tho... neither you nor I will change their position on this... soooo im done

 

[kakashidex]

and exactly this, guy is kisame's counter as he uses no chakra to attack, hes a exception just because he beat him dosen't mean every jounin in the leaf could, if anything that means guy was the only one in the leaf who could.

however in this case right now kakashi has never had a big drawn out battle with him he only fought for like a second back in the original naruto series and that was just him copying kisames technique and remember guy just used the eight gates which kakashi would definitely know by now since hes guys "rival" and hes also seen lee go up to five with his sharingan and hes been seen using the first gate on two separate occasions and knows a lot about the eight gates

 

[kakashidex]

U didn't tell me that you said (that)^

i told u hes a mid range fighter all the way back on the first pg u dimwit

 

[kakashidex]

I'm done arguin tho... neither you nor I will change their position on this... soooo im done

u havent had any good pts to begin with! u havent given me one good reason why kisame would win all u said is that the fight would be over before it started because he had samehada but never told me how he could manage to even hit kakashi with that or that huge water prison jutsu u mentioned give me some facts or good points

 

[Saisuke]

first of all Kakashi would have no choice but to be put in a water terrain because Kisame would basically make a tsunami changing the terrain like he did when fighting with Guy during the arc when Gaara was taken (Keep in mind it was just a copy of Kisame) or Bee(Giant Water Ball).Once the terrain was changed he could easily get kakashi under the water just like he did to Guy or Killer Bee (take your pick).. He could then use Shark summons, shark bombs, merge with samehada and attack, drown kakashi because he can move the water like he did to keep him under the surface like Killer Bee.. Plus he is an Akatsuki when has any of them really been beaten without support from a team(except deidara, Kisame cus of a perfect nemisis in Guy)

 

[Saisuke]

you give kakashi to much credit...

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

however in this case right now kakashi has never had a big drawn out battle with him he only fought for like a second back in the original naruto series and that was just him copying kisames technique and remember guy just used the eight gates which kakashi would definitely know by now since hes guys "rival" and hes also seen lee go up to five with his sharingan and hes been seen using the first gate on two separate occasions and knows a lot about the eight gates

i know hes used the first gate to climb rocks when was the 2nd time?

and guy without any gates is intensely strong compared to average ninja seeing as he only does taijutsu (so while kakashi can mold lightning and fire and use the sharingan and literally thousands of attacks guy has been working out and practicing fighting hand to hand), so even if he could open all 8 gates i don't think any taijutsu he has copied from guy could stop kisame, who survived guy's ultimate taijutsu attack which was called a instant one hit kill move and had enough stamina to break out of chakra enchanced wood afterwards.

or he could open all 7 gates(assuming he can) and use a ninjutsu, which would probably get sucked up by kisame's water shark missle which eats chakra and adds its power into its own and blasts the enemy which would have happened if guy used a ninjutsu instead.

now kakashi's genjutsu idk if samehada can act as a partner and break genjutsu or not, but he can send chakra into kisame to heal him and is self aware so im guessing it can, so kakashi weather he knows this or not could trap him in one, try to use lightning blade thru his heart and get shaved by samehada and his chakra drained

if kakashi would win id guess it'd be similer to when he beat zabuza the first time, suprise him with a counter ninjutsu early on. but zabuza didn't know how sharingan works, he thought kakashi could see into the future but kisame was partners and friends with one of the most powerful sharingan users in history for years so he probably knows it copies attacks, and if it turns into a war of ranged ninjutsu kakashi is boned since kisame is very very hard to kill, and has tailed beast level chakra and can heal from fatel wounds

My guess, kamui cathing kisame's head and killing him instantly would be the only way he wins, but thats not very fun to watch now is it lol

 

[DeathPulse16]

Dude! Kisames water techs are useless! Kakashi is adept in LIGHTNING along with other elements. Throw the sharingan, both normal and ms. The fact that kakashi is a MID RANGE fighter and that he has extreme intelligence and he can make lightning clones then this becomes a no brainer. As far as saying kakashi doesnt have stamina, WHAT THE HELL HAVE PEOPLE BEEN WATCHING????? I believe he fought kakuzu and hidan at the same time, mostly by himself. This is the same man who was willing to fight orochimaru. I mean, wtf people

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Dude! Kisames water techs are useless! Kakashi is adept in LIGHTNING along with other elements. Throw the sharingan, both normal and ms. The fact that kakashi is a MID RANGE fighter and that he has extreme intelligence and he can make lightning clones then this becomes a no brainer. As far as saying kakashi doesnt have stamina, WHAT THE HELL HAVE PEOPLE BEEN WATCHING????? I believe he fought kakuzu and hidan at the same time, mostly by himself. This is the same man who was willing to fight orochimaru. I mean, wtf people

kakashi's sharingan drains his chakra constantly, so does MS, and lightning clones he used one of those and like a lightning blade and a earth wall fighting deva path and was at half chakra, try that againest a guy who can survive/heal from getting his chest torn open by killer bee's suped up lariat and guys super instant one hit kill.

its not that kakashis weak but alone he dosen't seem to have anything to hit kisame hard enough other then kamui to kill him, and its good he got alot better at using that since hes limited to 3 of those a day before hes in the hospital

 

[DeathPulse16]

We already have this answer anyway, I believe kakashi is alive and kisame isn't. lol

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

yeah cuz pain revived him and kisame commited suicide via shark lol

 

[sasumaru]

I love Kakashi but Kisame is to strong.
Kakashi knows some suiton jutsus but that wont help because Kisame makes the jutsu bigger! Also Kisame knows much about the Sharingan!

He will do the same just like against Killerbee and Kakashi will be out of stamina for sure.

Kisame was very unlucy versu Guy because he allready fought Killerbee, had to send a message what had more piority then his live and he was wrong about guy's attack!

 

[sasumaru]

@ DeathPulse16

Fail!

 

[kanesannin]

Kisame beating kakashi......i'd have to be INCREDIBLY high to believe that.


Look at kakashi's stats:

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They total 34.5......VERY high

Now look at kisame's:

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They total 32.5.....

As if that was'nt obvious enough, kakashi has 4 chakra natures, kisame's only got 2, his(kisame's) water is weak against kakahi's earth, while his earth is weak against kakashi's lightning.



Kakashi wins, no brainer.

 

[kakashidex]

kakashi's sharingan drains his chakra constantly, so does MS, and lightning clones he used one of those and like a lightning blade and a earth wall fighting deva path and was at half chakra, try that againest a guy who can survive/heal from getting his chest torn open by killer bee's suped up lariat and guys super instant one hit kill.

its not that kakashis weak but alone he dosen't seem to have anything to hit kisame hard enough other then kamui to kill him, and its good he got alot better at using that since hes limited to 3 of those a day before hes in the hospital

u do realize kakashi had used the lightning 4 times in that fight with the deva path and that earth style move and that lightning clone and that long range raikari and raikari does consume plenty of chakra so thats just half its not that bad like sasuke started running out of chakra against deidara after using the chidori like 5 0r 6 times and remember he went an entire day using his sharingan while fighting naruto and sakura and on top of that using other chakra taxing jutsus

 

[kakashidex]

I love Kakashi but Kisame is to strong.
Kakashi knows some suiton jutsus but that wont help because Kisame makes the jutsu bigger! Also Kisame knows much about the Sharingan!

He will do the same just like against Killerbee and Kakashi will be out of stamina for sure.

Kisame was very unlucy versu Guy because he allready fought Killerbee, had to send a message what had more piority then his live and he was wrong about guy's attack!

ok let me get this straight u think kisame will win because he knows a lot about the sharingan and u think he will be the one outmatching jutsus? ok kakashi was a genius even before the sharingan after that it just multiplied his power but what would kisame possibly do to counteract it? so what if he knows about what could he do?! and kakashi will be the one counteracting kisames jutsu he will see them coming a mile away by predicting them with his sharingan or if he attacks with samehada he can easily see how he is going to atttack and get out of the way kisame isnt that fast anyway

 

[kakashidex]

i know hes used the first gate to climb rocks when was the 2nd time?

and guy without any gates is intensely strong compared to average ninja seeing as he only does taijutsu (so while kakashi can mold lightning and fire and use the sharingan and literally thousands of attacks guy has been working out and practicing fighting hand to hand), so even if he could open all 8 gates i don't think any taijutsu he has copied from guy could stop kisame, who survived guy's ultimate taijutsu attack which was called a instant one hit kill move and had enough stamina to break out of chakra enchanced wood afterwards.

or he could open all 7 gates(assuming he can) and use a ninjutsu, which would probably get sucked up by kisame's water shark missle which eats chakra and adds its power into its own and blasts the enemy which would have happened if guy used a ninjutsu instead.

now kakashi's genjutsu idk if samehada can act as a partner and break genjutsu or not, but he can send chakra into kisame to heal him and is self aware so im guessing it can, so kakashi weather he knows this or not could trap him in one, try to use lightning blade thru his heart and get shaved by samehada and his chakra drained

if kakashi would win id guess it'd be similer to when he beat zabuza the first time, suprise him with a counter ninjutsu early on. but zabuza didn't know how sharingan works, he thought kakashi could see into the future but kisame was partners and friends with one of the most powerful sharingan users in history for years so he probably knows it copies attacks, and if it turns into a war of ranged ninjutsu kakashi is boned since kisame is very very hard to kill, and has tailed beast level chakra and can heal from fatel wounds

My guess, kamui cathing kisame's head and killing him instantly would be the only way he wins, but thats not very fun to watch now is it lol

the second time was when he used the lotus which activates the first gate
thats because guy knows he could never beat kakashi at ninjutsu kakashi is konohas jutsu specialist so what do u think guy would do? of course try to beat him at taijutsu which then made him the taijutsu specialist but didnt u see his first real fight vs kisame during the rescue gaara arc? kisame whupped him at taijutsu even while gai was using his nunchaku
and with guys afternoon tiger it really made kisame paralyzed for a while which at that time kakashi would finish him off with raikari like he did to kakuzu the reason why guy and company didnt do so is because they wanted information
and when kisame would use his super shark bomb tech or whatever kakashi could see what the jutsu would do before its even completed and stop kisame or just oh i dont know get out of the way and counter it perhaps by earth style manhunter jutsu
well with kisames healing ability kakashi dosent miss he always hits the heart the only reason why kakuzu survived is because kakashi hit that other heart of his and with kisame knowing all about the sharingan he has already had one of his jutsu copied which was just the regular shark bomb so its not like hes going to use very many other ones but the sharingan is the only thing he knows about kakashi thats it hes never seen his ms or jutsu or anything while kakashi has all the information about it heck he even knew about his sword from the bingo book before akatsuki was even introduced so kakashi would know what to do and how to stop him easy

 

[DarkSasuke]

Kakashi will be pushed but with his MS he will win