Kakashi v.s Minato

Minato v.s Kakashi

  • Minato wins hands down

    Votes: 22 55.0%
  • Minato has trouble but wins

    Votes: 7 17.5%
  • Kakashi barely manage to win

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • Kakashi wins hands down

    Votes: 6 15.0%

  • Total voters
    40

alipjana

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Other people are dumbasses because your thinking is limited? Explain that for me.

I could see a scenario where Kakashi wins.

FTG is not an at-will teleport, it requires teleporting to one of Minato's kunai. Kakashi's sharingan tracks the kunai in flight and he anticipates the teleport and has chidori or raikiri (which btw require no hand seals and can be formed in both hands simultaneously) waiting for Minato. If Minato litters the battlefield with kunai, Kakashi counters with clones and substitutions. Minato's rasengan is not infused with a nature affinity, so chidori is probably equal to it, and raikiri is superior. So then we're left with Minato's base speed vs the sharingan. We've seen how raw speed vs the sharingan has played out before. I'll grant that Minato's speed means that Kakashi doesn't have time to form hand seals, but the flip side of that is that any time Minato tries to form a hand seal Kakashi can simply copy it to counter it.

If Kakashi tries to use his sharingan offensively (kamui) I think he misses and loses as a result.

That said, Kakashi is an underdog, but it isn't a curbstomping. No, I don't buy the arguments that A would beat Kakashi and Minato would beat A therefore Minato beats Kakashi. I also don't buy that because scissors beats paper, and paper beats rock, that scissors beats rock. Its an issue of how they match up, and this is a more difficult matchup for Minato. I think it'd be a fun fight to watch.
Naruto wiki:
hand seals of chidori Hand seals: Ox β†’ Rabbit β†’ Monkey[4] or Monkey β†’ Dragon β†’ Rat β†’ Bird β†’ Ox β†’ Snake β†’ Dog β†’ Tiger β†’ Monkey
there you go chideori has hand seals and who said anything about throwin kunai ..he can just mark him while hes fighting hand to hand...
 

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Naruto wiki:
hand seals of chidori Hand seals: Ox β†’ Rabbit β†’ Monkey[4] or Monkey β†’ Dragon β†’ Rat β†’ Bird β†’ Ox β†’ Snake β†’ Dog β†’ Tiger β†’ Monkey
there you go chideori has hand seals and who said anything about throwin kunai ..he can just mark him while hes fighting hand to hand...
Kakashi and Orochimaru face to face, 14:20... Chidori with no hand signs. I'm not sorting through all of the manga to find more examples.

And Minato could conceivably touch nothing but substitutions, making your marking argument void.
 

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Kakashi and Orochimaru face to face, 14:20... Chidori with no hand signs. I'm not sorting through all of the manga to find more examples.

And Minato could conceivably touch nothing but substitutions, making your marking argument void.
lol..u r goin 2 deny naruto wiki thats its wrong...:eek:...and iff thats the case then minato would have never won against anybody because evrybody knos substituion..fact is minato has the fastest speed and i dnt think kakashi can keep up with it...even wid the sharingan..also ftg is st jutsu...i m nt a minato fanboy but it s 2 much xpctig of kakashi 2 win dis 1...
 

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lol..u r goin 2 deny naruto wiki thats its wrong...:eek:
I have no doubt that those are the correct hand signs. What is at issue is if they're still required.

...and iff thats the case then minato would have never won against anybody because evrybody knos substituion.
Not everyone has the perception abilities of the sharingan, nor know Minato's abilities beforehand. Kakashi does. Kakashi gets substitution off in time, others don't know what hit them. Then again, maybe not, I mean Kakashi doesn't have time to go through all the hand signs for substitution (Tiger-Boar-Ox-Dog-Serpent), right?

fact is minato has the fastest speed and i dnt think kakashi can keep up with it...even wid the sharingan..also ftg is st jutsu...i m nt a minato fanboy but it s 2 much xpctig of kakashi 2 win dis 1...
Expecting and allowing for the possibility are two different things.
 
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I have no doubt that those are the correct hand signs. What is at issue is if they're still required.

Not everyone has the perception abilities of the sharingan, nor know Minato's abilities beforehand. Kakashi does. Kakashi gets substitution off in time, others don't know what hit them. Then again, maybe not, I mean Kakashi doesn't have time to go through all the hand signs for substitution (Tiger-Boar-Ox-Dog-Serpent), right?

Expecting and allowing for the possibility are two different things.
also i didnt get ur expalnation of the substitution justsu...how will kakashi substitute himself when hes fighting taijutsu with minato....????
 
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