Kakashi still has perfect susanoo and Kamui shuriken ! manga fact

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Which you just have been soloed urself :sdo3:
you can read ur own post carefully again and see how ur butt is gonna hurt badly :th:

hint: chakra converted

Chakra is an energy.

Energy can be converted from one form to another.

Please go and read some Science books. :th:
 

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Which you just have been soloed urself :sdo3:
you can read ur own post carefully again and see how ur butt is gonna hurt badly :th:

hint: chakra converted

He said Kakashi's chakra get convert when it enter Obito's eye ball and not Obito's Uchiha chakra inside that eye ball spreading into Kakashi's tenketsu and convert all Kakashi's chakra into Uchiha's chakra.

The properties(Uchiha chakra) stayed still inside Obito's eye ball on Kakashi's eye socket.

All Kakashi's chakra that being used to operate Obito's MS eye power get molded/mixed with Uchiha's chakra inside/within that eye.

Plus if Kakashi's chakra is Uchiha chakra, he should be able to awaken level 1 susanoo bcus the requirement is already met.

The requirement here is MS and Kakashi already have it.

And using Madara's eyeless susanoo awakening principle, Kakashi should be able if he need only Uchiha chakra inside his body, but no never happen.

It tells you Kakashi's chakra all this long still not converted into Uchiha chakra.

The process of converting only happen inside Sharingan eye.

Your reading comprehension and understanding skill sure is lacking kid.
 
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He said Kakashi's chakra get convert when it enter Obito's eye ball and not Obito's Uchiha chakra inside that eye ball spreading into Kakashi's tenketsu and convert all Kakashi's chakra into Uchiha's chakra.

The properties(Uchiha chakra) stayed still inside Obito's eye ball on Kakashi's eye socket.

All Kakashi's chakra that being used to operate MS eye power get molded with Uchiha's chakra inside that eye.

Your reading comprehension and understanding skill sure is lacking kid.

which is nice fanfic though. But no where in the manga state that, even the most important part that explain how Uchiha sharingan works only say special chakra make a changes in their eyes which is unlock sharingan or dna in the eyes changed.

So keep away the fan fiction :lmao:
 

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which is nice fanfic though. But no where in the manga state that, even the most important part that explain how Uchiha sharingan works only say special chakra make a changes in their eyes which is unlock sharingan or dna in the eyes changed.

So keep away the fan fiction :lmao:

Stupid kid read all the post please. Dont act like you are done with me.

You know the fact about special chakra there. And that special charka is Uchiha own and not Hyuuga or Uzumaki etc.

Still if you want to used Madara eyelss Susanoo awakening principle. Kakashi should be able at least using level 1 susanoo. But it never happen.

Answer that first bcus it will answer everything here.




Also a flaw and overreacting I saw on you here.

Madara only able to used V4 Susanoo but here you think Kakashi could used Majestic PS and Kamui shuriken.




The other part here is Kamui Shuriken. How?

What gave Shuriken a kamui ability is Obito MS eyes and not Perfect Susanoo.

What theory/fact you're basing this on here that someone can obtain MS eyes from nothing?

Look how stupid you make yourself right now.

Its not basing on fanfic but all connection I can find in the manga. I connect them all.
 
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Stupid kid read all the post please. Dont act like you are done with me.

You know the fact about special chakra there. And that special charka is Uchiha own and not Hyuuga or Uzumaki etc.

Still if you want to used Madara eyelss Susanoo awakening principle. Kakashi should be able at least using level 1 susanoo. But it never happen.

Answer that first bcus it will answer everything here.




Also a flaw and overreacting I saw on you here.

Madara only able to used V4 Susanoo but here you think Kakashi could used Majestic PS and Kamui shuriken.




The other part here is Kamui Shuriken. How?

What gave Shuriken a kamui ability is Obito MS eyes and not Perfect Susanoo.

What theory/fact you're basing this on here that someone can obtain MS eyes from nothing?

Look how stupid you make yourself right now.

Its not basing on fanfic but all connection I can find in the manga. I connect them all.

The only manga fact is that Kakashi got Obito's eye. After all of those years he using his own chakra to copy and cast and eventually awakened mangegyo sharingan after killed one of his best team mate. By this fact, it kills all the theory about only Uchiha able to awaken MS.

If you really want to argue over something that is out of the manga then you should announce it as your own assumption. I used manga fact that based on event that happened before and apply to the similiar case + there is no flaw to prevent that. You cant just talk about something that you made up in this situation like the eye ballz chakra when there is not a single hint about it.

Even if i make an exception to follow your logic then you still lose to your own logic. The major flaw in your logic is that the "left over dna" which will contain trace of chakra (by ur logic) and Kakashi still able to making susanoo by channel his chakra through that point. The only way to get rid of all remaining dna is that using a fine knife and make a large hole around Kakashi eye's.
 

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The only manga fact is that Kakashi got Obito's eye. After all of those years he using his own chakra to copy and cast and eventually awakened mangegyo sharingan after killed one of his best team mate. By this fact, it kills all the theory about only Uchiha able to awaken MS.

If you really want to argue over something that is out of the manga then you should announce it as your own assumption. I used manga fact that based on event that happened before and apply to the similiar case + there is no flaw to prevent that. You cant just talk about something that you made up in this situation like the eye ballz chakra when there is not a single hint about it.

Even if i make an exception to follow your logic then you still lose to your own logic. The major flaw in your logic is that the "left over dna" which will contain trace of chakra (by ur logic) and Kakashi still able to making susanoo by channel his chakra through that point. The only way to get rid of all remaining dna is that using a fine knife and make a large hole around Kakashi eye's.

Nope their MS awoke simultaneously, they are connected. Manga fact.

Nope it was Obito chakra+Kakashi. Obito possessed him and gave why for Kakshi to access Obito's MS full potential.

He get Six Path power to create PS just from using MS is from Obito's chakra.

When Obito leaved Kakashi's body he take all his chakra back from Kakashi and no DNA left there.

You need to remember they are shown(Kakashi and Obito's eyes vision) connected with each other thats mean you still cant throw away Sam's theory about 'connection'.

And JJ Madara already pluck and stole MS eye from Kakashi and it happen, no need for knife. What you're gonna say then?


Naruto replaced it with normal eye. If I follow your logic about 'DNA trace/left over',Naruto should be able to used Uchiha DNA left over and Kakashi's own DNA and give back Kakashi new sharingan eye. His own but it not happen.

And people with deep experience in using Sharingan like Kakashi should be able to easily awaken new tomoes and then MS. But it not happen with his new eye until Obito possessed him using chakra/astral body and not physical body with DNA.

Even until the Last Movie, Kakashi still not showing any sign of having potential sharingan.

Astral body doesnt contained DNA.

If you really want to argue over something that is out of the manga then you should announce it as your own assumption. I used manga fact that based on event that happened before and apply to the similiar case + there is no flaw to prevent that. You cant just talk about something that you made up in this situation like the eye ballz chakra when there is not a single hint about it.


^^^^^^^^^^^^Plus I see no input in your previous post about Kakashi and Uchiha chakra. You're lacking many thing in this debate. Look at your own fault first before talking about my own.

You never bring any Manga fact to us, just your believe. I gave you databook, Sam gave you Tobirama's statements, first poster gave you Obito final words to Kakashi. Where is yours brain dead??????
 
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Nope their MS awoke simultaneously with Obito, they are connected. Manga fact.

Nope it was Obito chakra+Kakashi. Obito possessed him and gave why for Kakshi to access Obito's MS full potential.

He get Six Path power to create PS just from using MS is from Obito's chakra.

When Obito leaved Kakashi's body he take all his chakra back from Kakashi and no DNA left there.

You need to remember they are shown(Kakashi and Obito's eyes vision) connected with each other thats mean you still cant throw away Sam's theory about 'connection'.

And JJ Madara already pluck and stole MS eye from Kakashi and it happen, no need for knife. What you're gonna say then?


Naruto replaced it with normal eye. If I follow your logic about 'DNA trace/left over',Naruto should be able to used Uchiha DNA left over and Kakashi's own DNA and give back Kakashi new sharingan eye. His own but it not happen.

And people with deep experience in using Sharingan like Kakashi should be able to easily awaken new tomoes and then MS. But it not happen with his new eye until Obito possessed him using chakra/astral body and not physical body with DNA.

Even until the Last Movie, Kakashi still not showing any sign of having potential sharingan.

Astral body doesnt contained DNA.

Plus I see no input in your previous post about Kakashi and Uchiha chakra. You're lacking many thing in this debate.

Just the bold showing how stupid the entire conversation it sound.
You are not Kishi to decide on that matter and your word is useless here to claim otherwise.
Kakashi and Obito witnessed their best friend died in same time at the same place.
 

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Just the bold showing how stupid the entire conversation it sound.
You are not Kishi to decide on that matter and your word is useless here to claim otherwise.
Kakashi and Obito witnessed their best friend died in same time at the same place.

I'm not Kishi but what is this stupid? You're too weak kid.

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Its not for zero purpose. Its mean something. Kakashi can used Obito's Sharingan bcus they somehow are connected.

You cant counter any of my arguments properly and result to said 'fan fic', or assumption' etc without realizing how stupid this thread and it creator was.
 
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op is obviously a dumbass troll. quit arguing with him
 

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I'm not Kishi but what is this stupid? You're too weak kid.

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Its not for zero purpose. Its mean something. Kakashi can used Obito's Sharingan bcus they somehow are connected.

You cant counter any of my arguments properly and result to said 'fan fic', or assumption' etc without realizing how stupid this thread and it creator was.

Still making up story ? I feel disappointed in you, after all those years and you still dont know that Madara and zetsu lured Obito into a trap to see his best friend got killed under his another best friend so his life will be meaningless ?
And about the image of Rin :th:

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Still making up story ? I feel disappointed in you, after all those years and you still dont know that Madara and zetsu lured Obito into a trap to see his best friend got killed under his another best friend so his life will be meaningless ?
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Still being stupid here. The scans I show you , the purpose of it is to tell you their eyes is connected/having a connection somehow.

They can see the same thing infront of them even though their eyes is separated.

Chakra connection to be exact. Kakashi able to used his Sharingan abilities bcus his eye once Obito's eye still have a chakra connection with previous owner Obito. The ability he received and used is directly came from Obito's brain but the power to used that ability is depend on Kakashi's chakra.






Took it too long for you to respond back tells me you are short of debate materials and it is.

Look here trying to divert my previous argument by bring in more irrelevant materials and statements.

When one need to counter all the previous argument words by words, you here became like a head less chicken.

Yeah I stop right now bcus you clearly couldn't counter any of my previous post's points, 4 posts actually and its points.

If you dont know how to debate with fact, logic, critical thinking, situation making. Dont even try to debate especially with me.


Come on Asian kid, reply back ASAP
 
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I don't know why people believe susanoo can be used without eyes just like Madara used susanoo. Madara is the only person that can use susanoo without eyes and the reason is because he no longer possesses the uchiha limitations. When Madara merged together Ashura's and Indra's chakra and brought out Hagoromo's chakra, Madara's body mutated just like the his chakra. Madara's body became the same as Hagoromo's just like his chakra became like Hagoromo's. So no one can use susanoo without eye's like Madara did.

The scan below shows when Sasuke's sharingan is deactivated due to the strain, his susanoo dissappears.
 

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yeah that's why he was pissing his pants looking at the meteor in the Last
 

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Susanno needs the special chakra in the brain to work, so eyes are a non factor.

Kakashi lost that chakra, so he can't use Susanoo anymore.

That's an hypothesis.

Another hypothesis is that a brain who unlocked Susano'o will always be able to use Susano'o until its death.
Nothing in the manga counters that hypothesis.

If you are stupid, you can believe one hypothesis or the other, but if you're smart, you won't accept/claim something without proofs, and you'll understand that both are possible hypothesis, and that nobody knows that truth.
 

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That's an hypothesis.

Another hypothesis is that a brain who unlocked Susano'o will always be able to use Susano'o until its death.
Nothing in the manga counters that hypothesis.

If you are stupid, you can believe one hypothesis or the other, but if you're smart, you won't accept/claim something without proofs, and you'll understand that both are possible hypothesis, and that nobody knows that truth.

However the manga has proven my statements. :bdpf:
 

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Can you show this proof?

Susanoo is a Mangekyo Sharingan technique and it requires the Optical Chakra to work :-

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Obito gave Kakashi that Special Chakra, once that Chakra vanished, so did his Sharingan and his access to Susanoo.

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That's an hypothesis.

Another hypothesis is that a brain who unlocked Susano'o will always be able to use Susano'o until its death.
Nothing in the manga counters that hypothesis.

If you are stupid, you can believe one hypothesis or the other, but if you're smart, you won't accept/claim something without proofs, and you'll understand that both are possible hypothesis, and that nobody knows that truth.

Except Kakashi never unlocked Susano'o, Obito's chakra did thanks to having the Sage's power from being the JuubiJin, without Obito's chakra Kakashi doesn't have Obito's KKG, claiming he has the Mangekyo is like claiming Nagato has the Rinnegan without Madara's eyes.
 
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