Kakashi overrating? Sudden increase!

[Flawž]

Arguably yes that is also true. some of the Kage did get killed by S rank Akatsuki, 3 of the Kazekage and Yagura but i think it would depend on which Member fights which Kage. Example, Diedara vs Raikage would be over quick imo.

you are correct in the fact that it depends on who is fighting.

 

[slaton02]

I noticed it too. I don't think he is even top 15.(he top 20 though)

 

[Draphsin]

Arguably yes that is also true. some of the Kage did get killed by S rank Akatsuki, 3 of the Kazekage and Yagura but i think it would depend on which Member fights which Kage. Example, Diedara vs Raikage would be over quick imo.

Okay I have a question for you

Do you think that most of the akatsuki have the potential to be kage of their respective villages? hmm

It doesnt matter if they can be killed by kage, so can other kage. What matters is the fact that 80-90% of the akatsuki could be titled as a "kage" ultimately making that rank higher (IMO).

 

[EZQ]

Evryone who thinks kakashi is not top 15 is in pure denial

He warped BM Naruto so fast that obito WITH RINNGENGAN AND MS did not see the warping and he tought it was one of naruto's clones.

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So yea, kakashi > jiraiya, kakashi > kisame, Kakashi deidara, BECAUSE OF KAMUI

 

[Trollnojutsu]

akatsuki are mostly S rank and Most of them could beat many of the kage's.

Itachi, obito, nagato. They are the only ones who can beat a Kage in my opinion.

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi ranked between the kages:

A> Kakashi > Oonoki = Gaara > Tsunade > Mei

Kakashi ranked bewteen the akatsuki:

Obito> Nagato > Itachi > Kakashi > Kisame > Kakuzu > Sasori > Deidara > Zetsu > Konan > Hidan

 

[Trollnojutsu]

kakashi:

-No kamui

-Riakri has no effect

-other Regular jutsu's

obito:

-no kamui

-Has Mokuton

-Has the rinnegan

-Rinnegan allow's obito to use all the elements and he can copy them with his sharingan

-Izanagi

-Other Rikudo and Uchiha Jutsu's


You see the difference?

The only ing I want to say about that whole list is obito using izangi. I don't think he would use it considering he only has his ms eye. And considering it is one of his most used tools, it just seems a little outlandish to think he would use it.

 

[CDT23]

Okay I have a question for you

Do you think that most of the akatsuki have the potential to be kage of their respective villages? hmm

It doesnt matter if they can be killed by kage, so can other kage. What matters is the fact that 80-90% of the akatsuki could be titled as a "kage" ultimately making that rank higher (IMO).

Well Kage title is different from Kage fighting level(which would be S-Class and higher), as every knows or should know, it takes more than a good fighter to be kage, otherwise naruto would have been kage after the pain arc. But yes some kage are more well known for fighting skills. My point was just that depending on who is in battle, a Kage could defeat an Akatsuki.

 

[kakashi ms]

Kakashi is High ANBU Rank at the most.
He's nowhere near Kage Rank.

People just over rate Kamui to the point where it's not even cool anymore.
If Kakashi could use Kamui to beat everyone, he would've killed the 7 Swordsmen and Deva Path with it.

...but you know what? Kakashi couldn't 'cause of his chakra reserves.

amatrasu didn't kill anyone
madara's meteors didn't kill anyone
nagato's ct didn't kill anyone
bijudoma didn't kill anyone
the dust didn't kill anyone
c3,c4,c0 didn't kill anyone
look at the people who was killed and you will know that they die by kuna(even ems madara died with sword against hashirama)
do you think kakashi should use kamui on swordmen and about the deva path i will say it was plote against kakashi
kakashi has kamui and can use it where and when he want against anyone
he use it well now

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you think the one who has complete chance to beat jiubi isn't kage level
manga showed kakashi can beat jiubi(kamui to neck)and he can counter all his attack by going to other dimension
kakashi is so high kage level

 

[Draphsin]

Well Kage title is different from Kage fighting level(which would be S-Class and higher), as every knows or should know, it takes more than a good fighter to be kage, otherwise naruto would have been kage after the pain arc. But yes some kage are more well known for fighting skills. My point was just that depending on who is in battle, a Kage could defeat an Akatsuki.

Makes sense, I guess the whole thing is just an iffy concept

 

[slaton02]

Kakashi ranked between the kages:

A> Kakashi > Oonoki = Gaara > Tsunade > Mei

Kakashi ranked bewteen the akatsuki:

Obito> Nagato > Itachi > Kakashi > Kisame > Kakuzu > Sasori > Deidara > Zetsu > Konan > Hidan

Kisame> Itachi>Kakashi
Kakuzu pounded Kakashi btw

 

[kakashi ms]

he is not In top 10 yet.

He can only use kamui about 2-3 times before he loses chakra.

Im not talking about Kakashi with the kyuubi chakra because that was given.

you underrate kakashi now and you think he didn't improve since he fought didra
kakashi use kamui well now
kakashi used in the last fight and before kuarma chakra 6kamui,6raiki,2 light chain,2 shadow clone,earth wall,sharingan for 2 days

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please see that and tell me your new rank for current kakashi(he is top 10 surly)

 

[Flawž]

you underrate kakashi now and you think he didn't improve since he fought didra
kakashi use kamui well now
kakashi used in the last fight and before kuarma chakra 6kamui,6raiki,2 light chain,2 shadow clone,earth wall,sharingan for 2 days

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please see that and tell me your new rank for current kakashi(he is top 10 surly)

i am talking about kakashi not kakashi with Naruto's chakra.

 

[Aaroninja]

Since the obito vs kakashi fight in the kamui started, I noticed an increase of kakashi wank constantly. Since when Is kakashi On the level of obito? Obito is top 3 while kakashi is in the top 15.

The only reason Kakashi is even in top 15 is because of kamui, Now he cannot use it which means...

Also, Riakri is ineffective as far as the new chapter goes which means kakashi is gonna have to use Water style - Water splash Jutsu on a rinnegan obito. Lol

kakashi is very smart, Quick thinker and has a wide variety of Jutsu's but He is not on the level of anyone in top 5 especially Without kamui.

I understand a lot of kakashi fans Are excited for this fight but without plot, kakashi stands no chance at obito.

Are you tired of the kakashi wank as well?

It's the same with Obito? Technically, he can't Kamui in this dimension? He is no longer intangible. What people are saying is that, at this level, Kakashi is greater than Obito if both don't have Kamui (until proven otherwise). Obito cant use many Rinnegan techs here (Cant summon Gedo Mazou or control Juubi here, not can he use his six paths of pain).

This fight is really down to basic Jutsu and techniques. The only thing that Obito has over Kakashi now is the Mokuton. But we havent seen him use it since the moment he awakened the MS.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No one's overrating him. In this setup kakashi has enough chakra to warp the juubi. His chakra levels(thanks to naruto) is extremely high and thats the reason he has a chance of beating obito.
In other news kakashi is top 10-15 give or take a couple bad matchups.

 

[TheTailedSage]

The recent manga scan just proves that obito without his kamui is pratically useless. Kakashi beat him without much effort within kamui, obito relies too much on kamui so he tskes it for granted that he doesn't need to dodge. Its got him in that habbit

 

[5pace time continuum]

After the Naruto versus Pain Arc. Kakashi was a candidate to become the sixth hokage, the fire lord and elders know Kakashi is suitable to become the hokage. Naruto is stronger than him, but Kakashi is a well-equipped shinobi that is an all-rounder (just like Hiruzen Sarutobi).

Kakashi is certainly at kage level and his pretty much in line to be the sixth hokage and Naruto will be seventh.

 

[evilmanofdoom]

obito fanboy much

 

[Bogard]

I'm a Kakashi fan, but i've always been logical(except in my trolling moments ). He may not be on Obito's level, but you must recognise that the guy is beast and has some chances against Obito. Before the war, i'm not even sure he was in my top30. But during the war, i found his feats so impressive that time after time, he was jumping up in my rankings. Currently, i see him between top10 and top15, not sure where exactly though

 

[NagazuDead]

Kakashi is very good shinobi, but he has very bad chakra reserve... very bad.