kakashi is faster than the entire akatasuki. confirmed.

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How is Kakashi's reaction speed anywhere near Obito's? The guy manages to react to every single attack and uses his S/T technique flawlessly to phase through it. Please...
 

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speed blitzing obito, a top tier who has a sharingan and rinnegan in his own dimension? this has got to be one of the best speed feats in the entire manga.

obito also jizzed himself here due to kakashi's amazing speed

the only characters confirmed faster than kakashi are: minato, raikage, naruto, might guy. basically the speedsters of this manga. but kakashi also has a sharingan so yeah. before some retard brings up the databook about 4.5 speed thats outdated as hell, and manga>databook.
:stfu:

Thats not a f*cking speed blitz!!

This is:

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Look at the difference, drink it in, get butthurt & GTFO!
 

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Kakashi has shown impresive feats of REACTION AND QUICKNESS, not of speed blitzing.

He was QUICK and HAD A GOOD REACTION to land ond his feet and activate raikiri, HE IS QUICKER THAN OBITO, not faster, and itachi is faster than kakashi
 

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I see no wank when someone bring mangafacts. They were at the same position when they entered Kamui dimension. But Kakashi managed to stay on his feet quickly and directly attacked Obito when Obito didn't and fell on the ground, which means that Kakashi reacted faster than him, it's that simple
sigh.

Obito landed that way because Kakashi was the one who warped Obito.

Previous manga chapters have proven that the one getting warped Falls in the other kamui world.

That is why Kakashi was in a better position.

Obito is clearly faster than Kakashi when ke kept up with BM naruto, gai and and Bee.

He did use Kamui but He indeed kept up with them when he became solid.
 

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If kakashi was faster, He would of landed a hit on obito In the real world yet he didn't even come close. Heck even BM naruto did not come close to hitting obito.

Obito has better reaction feats.

Obito is faster.

End this wank.
 

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You said it yourself in the bolded part. Kakashi manuvered faster than Obito mid air, which already shows greater reaction feat

And yes, Obito was shocked. Just look at his face
yes yes youre right.. kakashi has a better reaction at that time when he sent naruto clone to the other dimension to smash obitos mask
and this time too..

you know why obito is shocked??
he shocked because kakashi still hesitating..
he can killed obito several times up until now..
but he doesnt means he is still hesitating.. thats why obito is shocked dude..
 

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Kakashi maneuvering in mid air in no way makes his foot speed faster than Obito's, who was able to easily keep up with KM Naruto. That feat alone puts his speed above Kakashi's.

Yet he pretty much knew Kakashi would end up hesitating just like he did the first time he had a chance to kill him.
Obito being able to keep up with KM Naruto doesn't make him faster than Kakashi. It only means that Obito has the reflexes to react to KM Naruto. Temari reacted to a point blank surprise attack from Rock Lee during the chunin exams but that doesn't mean she is on the same level of speed as even weighted Lee. Reacting to an attack doesn't mean you are faster. Raikage was able to sidestep amaterasu but that doesn't mean he is physically faster than the flames themselves. Just fast enough to escape the sharingan's eyesight.

Anyway Obito hasn't showed movement speed that puts him above Kakashi's speed level although their reaction speed is debatable and Obito's might be superior because he also has sensory abilities.

Also KM Naruto may not have used his full speed on Obito.

Shikamaru reacted to a surprise blitz from Kakuzu yet Kakashi got hit from a surprise blitz from Kakuzu but that doesn't mean that Shikamaru has faster reaction than Kakashi since the speed that Kakuzu used on Kakashi was obviously faster than the speed Kakuzu used on Shikamaru.
Again, reacting faster obviously doesn't mean he is faster than Obito.

Minato's reactions are greater than v2 Raikage's but is he faster than him on foot? Obviously not. This thread is about Kakashi being faster than Obito not Kakashi having better reactions than Obito.

Reaction speed is not the subject here nor was I ever debating Kakashi's reaction vs Obito's reactions. Kakashi simply isn't faster than Obito, that is my point. Him being able to keep up with KM Naruto who is faster than Kakashi means he is faster than Kakashi. Simple.
Lightning armour improves ones reflexes beyond super ninja levels, so Minato, whose reflexes aren't boosted, doesn't have faster reflexes. All Minato did was use space time to catch Raikage off guard and he was fast enough to react to a blitz from Raikage. This doesn't mean that Minato has faster reaction time than the Raikage. This is no direct comparison between their respective reaction speed because Raikage couldn't react to Hirashin which is infinitely times faster than the Raikage himself. Minato also can't react to instantaneous speed either but he is the one who uses it so he doesn't need to since his opponents don't.

I think you are confusing reaction time with movement speed. They are both different though generally speaking, ninjas with faster movement speed have faster reaction time.
 
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^ Why would KM Naruto not use his full speed to evade Obito, considering that his Bijuu was making the world hang in the balance? When everything seems to hinge upon Naruto protecting himself, or the alliance lending a helping hand, this statement doesn't seem to be correct to me.
 

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Obito being able to keep up with KM Naruto doesn't make him faster than Kakashi. It only means that Obito has the reflexes to react to KM Naruto. Temari reacted to a point blank surprise attack from Rock Lee during the chunin exams but that doesn't mean she is on the same level of speed as even weighted Lee. Reacting to an attack doesn't mean you are faster. Raikage was able to sidestep amaterasu but that doesn't mean he is physically faster than the flames themselves. Just fast enough to escape the sharingan's eyesight.

Anyway Obito hasn't showed movement speed that puts him above Kakashi's speed level although their reaction speed is debatable and Obito's might be superior because he also has sensory abilities.

Also KM Naruto may not have used his full speed on Obito.

Shikamaru reacted to a surprise blitz from Kakuzu yet Kakashi got hit from a surprise blitz from Kakuzu but that doesn't mean that Shikamaru has faster reaction than Kakashi since the speed that Kakuzu used on Kakashi was obviously faster than the speed Kakuzu used on Shikamaru.
If Obito was slower than KM Naruto, when they were hopping up those rocks, Obito never would have caught up to Naruto. You would be right if we were talking about them competing in CQC, but they are literally chasing each other, something that relies on speed.


Naruto was most likely using his fastest speed available to him without using Shunshin. I don't see why Naruto wouldn't go as fast as he can on foot to evade Obito.
 

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He didn't even speed blitz him. Part 1 Naruto literally did the same thing to jump from one side of the Valley of the End to the other. Is part 1 Naruto faster than all of Akatsuki.
No. The feats are only valid if they are used against an opponent of valid level.

For example, Rock Lee seemed like a freaking speed beast against Gaara and the whole fight was a battle that could even be fought by two kage level ninja.

Obviously, even back then, Kakashi, Asuma and basically all other jonin were MUCH faster than genin Lee.

So Lee was damn fast in comparison to Gaara, but he would be slow in comparison to any jonin.

It's all about comparison. A speed feat of Naruto against Part I Sasuke shows he's faster than... well... part I Sasuke.
A speed feat of Kakashi against Obito shows he's faster than Obito and that's a whole different story.
 

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Do both, since you clearly can't prove me wrong lol

Most of the people who disagree say Itachi is faster, but it's Kakashi with the better speed-feats. Even if you don't accept the most recent feat, Kakashi managed to physically keep up with version 2 jin whom posessed a Sharingan and Rinnegan.
 

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Obvious troll thread. Kishi considers jikuukin ninjutsu as speed so obito will always be faster than kakashi.
Next while the Db is outdated and i agree, itachi has still shown greater speed feats especially his little tangle with naruto and bee.


And you can argue that orochimaru's snake mode which has been stated to be very fast should be around there as well.

zetsu using kagero is also faster

Deidora noted to be very fast in the air, if we compare his speed in the air to kakashi's foot speed though both are different forms of speed, deidora's airborne speed is greater than kakashi's shunshin.

Likewise kisame's merged with samahada who's is a speed demon in water has shown greater speed in water than what kakashi has done on foot with shunshin so i will also put him above kakashi

Also both your manga scans are poor evidence and can be taken apart with ease
 
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