Kakashi Hatake(with Beheader Blade) vs Kisame Hoshigaki

[sharingansennin]

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Intel: None

Restrictions: Kamui(people make stuff so annoying hell they think Kakashi>jubito), Water Dome

Location: Valley of the End

Distance: 50 Meters

Intent: To Kill

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[Fodder#4]

Hm. . .This certainly is an unusual match up. No Kamui or Water Dome? And giving Kakashi Zabuza's sword? This will certainly. . . Be. . .Odd! I'll think this one over a bit before posting my opinion on the matter. Kakashi isn't dependant on Kamui, despite what some of his. . "fans" seem to paint around here. And Kisame himself doesn't rely on the Water Dome too much.

Quite the match up here. . . I'll without a doubt think it over. And you should totes try to get Kakashi's picture working!

 

[DrProof]

Even with Kamui, Kisame takes.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Kisame extreme diff due to lack of speed

 

[sharingansennin]

The reason this matchup to me because very competitive:

Kakashi:
Sharingan, he can read kisames movements
Beheader Blade infused with Lightning
He can copy Kisame's jutsu

Kisame:
Massive Chakra Reserves
Samehada to take his Chakra
Massive Water Jutsu
S ranked Missing Nin
Had the ability to take on team gai with a water clone with only 30% chakra

 

[Fodder#4]

The reason this matchup to me because very competitive:

Kakashi:
Sharingan, he can read kisames movements
Beheader Blade infused with Lightning
He can copy Kisame's jutsu

Kisame:
Massive Chakra Reserves
Samehada to take his Chakra
Massive Water Jutsu
S ranked Missing Nin
Had the ability to take on team gai with a water clone with only 30% chakra

Just crossing off irrelevant points here. Him being a missing ninja and his rank means little. I refer to Kisame here.

The beheader blade being infused with lightning does little, as a sword of such size isn't going to be capable of catching Kisame; a shinobi who uses a similar sized sword and should know the advantages/disadvantages and basic fighting style used for these types of swords. With this prior knowledge, he can easily block the Beheader with Samehada and have all the lightning chakra be absorbed in a matter of moments.

Hell; he has reacted to worse. With Killer Bee; He was capable of analyzing the attack that was sent. One raiton filled sword, a man pairing his blade, and Killer Bee running towards him. I doubt that Kakashi will be able to get a hit in with the Beheader, honestly.

And, Kakashi may be capable of copying them. Somewhat, they usually only require a clap of his hands. But, then what? He copies his Bakusui Shōha or other large Suiton-lake makers? Well, Kisame would only continue to prosper here. He gains an advantage in water as it is. Kakashi adding even more to the mix wouldn't negatively effect him.

Not to mention that Kakashi may not have the reserves to copy and then use such jutsu. I honestly doubt he would, he should know better.

 

[Penguin]

Ehhh crap this is a good one. I want to say Kakashi but his stamina is not so great....but he is so intelligent where as Kisame is not so intelligent, but has tremendous reserves. Kakashi is definatly faster and has better Taijutsu and genjutsu, but genjutsu is irrelivant due to Samehada. Strength definatly goes to Kisame. :x3:

 

[EZQ]

Even with Kamui, Kisame takes.

Ohh funny you...

OT: Without kamui kakashi gets beaten, altought i hate when people thinks that kakashi's only trick is kamui, it is true that without it kakashi looses his high kage level rank.

Kisame med- diff

 

[Pein67]

Kisame will probably start with big ocean jutsu, it will jutsu help Kakashi to use water that is already here, then few tricks,raiton kage bunshin,genjutsu,incredible speed (about like Gai 6th gate) and boom raikiri from underground gg.

You should restrict only kamui to make the fight fair.
Even with water dome, it would not change a lot to the end Kakashi still win.

 

[Skull Knight]

kakashi may beat kisame with raiton and other jutsu.
afterall he beat all d swordmen in d war.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kakashi wins this.

The water dome was Kisame's greatest weapon imo.

I can't see Kisame either dodging or absorbing Raikiri chain.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Kisame takes this med-high difficulty.

All his raiton variants are absorbed. Unless anyone has anything that suggests his raiton contains more chakra then 6 tails worth of bijuu chakra.

Genjutsu is rendered useless due to Samehada.

And Kakashi is simply outclassed in ninjutsu here. 1,000 sharks, GSB, Water Prison, Mizu Bunshin spam? GG my dude.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Unless anyone has anything that suggests his raiton contains more chakra then 6 tails worth of bijuu chakra.

I do have a theory.

The Bijuu chakra in Lariat is meant to empower the Lariat itself, not do damage to Kisame. We know Bijuu chakra is empowering since we saw that Naruto can give it freely to his allies. Same goes for Bee's. Thus, Kisame stole Bee's boost and gave it to himself.
Meanwhile, Raikiri is chakra molded into lightning with the sole purpose of cutting through an opponent. This is imo the best explanation as to why Samehada was having trouble absorbing Itachi's katon. It can't properly absorb destructive chakra.

This also explains why Samehada liked Bee's chakra whereas it whined from Itachi's katon chakra.

And Raikiri > Lariat, so no.

 

[Zexion~]

With or without kamui kisame wins

 

[KidGamer65]

With or without kamui kisame wins

No. Its not happening.

 

[Zexion~]

No. Its not happening.

I thnk it is .. he can sense when kakashi is about to use kamui , all he needs to do is begin spouting his suitons to hinder line of sight .. and then once he gets in the water Kakashi has no way to win this match

 

[KidGamer65]

I thnk it is .. he can sense when kakashi is about to use kamui , all he needs to do is begin spouting his suitons to hinder line of sight .. and then once he gets in the water Kakashi has no way to win this match

Forgot that being fused with Samehada makes him a sensor. You have a point there.

 

[kakashi owns all]

Even with Kamui, Kisame takes.

With or without kamui kisame wins

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kamui is to fast

anyway as is its really close idk really

 

[Zexion~]

Forgot that being fused with Samehada makes him a sensor. You have a point there.

haha

 

[EliteKakashi]

It would be an interesting fight, which is why I suggested it for the debate tournament.

Kakashi's sharingan gives him the ability to dodge even fast techniques at close range, even while engaging another opponent

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. Off the top of my head, I don't recall Kisame having a technique any faster than Kakuzu's futon blast, but either way it's just a point to make that Kakashi doesn't have to match Kisame's suiton....although, he potentially can.

If Kisame decides to turn the battlefield in to a lake, it really doesn't hurt Kakashi as much as one would believe. He's already shown he's capable of copying high level suiton techniques when he has a water source

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. Remember, the ranking of a technique is based on how difficult it is to perform. Not only has Kakashi proved he's capable of high level suiton(even when his chakra was 4 to 5 times less than what it is now), he also impressed Kisame himself with how effective he was with it

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, that of course not only came after Kakashi used a suiton clone effectively, but after he copied Kisame's water shark technique

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Kakashi's kinjutsu feats also surpass that of Kisame. Among those feats is not only his use of the kubikiribocho, but him being able to combat Zabuza with just a kunai against the kubikiribocho -

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I'm not 100% sure on who I would pick to win, but whoever wins it would be with the upmost difficulty. Kisame isn't going to beat Kakashi with just suiton, though.