Kakashi-Cut the Crap People!!
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Scorpio0Pharaoh0Titan
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Kakashi is at least Kage level! He has absorption Techniques, plus all kinds of jutsu's he knows, Sharingan, brains like Shikamaru, and who knows what the White fang family jutsu is? but Hashirama would beat the crap out of Kakashi!
I am a Kakashi fan, he is my favorite shinobi in the whole manga, but do I think he can beat Hashirama? No, I don't think he can. Will he give him a good run for his money? Hell yeah he will. Hashirama might be a great shinobi, but he's not just gonna walk all over him like he was a fodder. IMO if they both where to fight and Hashirama made the mistake of underestimating Kakashi, Kakashi would be all over his ass. imo of course.
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lswhyte123
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Kakashi died against Pain....one Pain body....and he had help.
He also got beasted by Kakazu and again, he had support.
He was saved by Naruto against Zabuza.
He was saved by Naruto against Tobi...do I need to continue?...
- Against Pain, you forget obviously to mention things. Before he got help, he fought in a 1vs2 against Pain, and that was against the strongest Pain if we don't count Animal Path. And he managed to outsmart them. At that time, he could have kill them, cuz Asura Path was paralyse, so he could not move, and Deva had use Bansho tenin, so he could not use his move anymore during 5seconds. But what's really funny is that he didn't knew that the real Kakashi was hiding, so Kakashi could surprise him every time like he did against Kakuzu. So in 1vs2 he could have killed at least one of them.Kakashi died against Pain....one Pain body....and he had help.
He also got beasted by Kakazu and again, he had support.
He was saved by Naruto against Zabuza.
He was saved by Naruto against Tobi...do I need to continue?...
- You also forget to mention that Deva Path, the one he fought against has beaten SM Naruto with ease even with help(Pa,Ma, Gamabunta, and the others), and he didn't even knew at all how he could fight Deva:
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So it's easy to see, he had help, he had help, but what you forget it's that sometimes help bring nothing and it's easier to fight alone. It's not for nothing that Naruto wanted to fight Pain alone. You don't have time to take care of others. And the same goes with the fight against Kakuzu where Kakashi always had to save others like Ino-Choji.
So yes, he lost with help like you say, but how? Yes, it was one Path if you want, but which of them? The strongest, the one who has beaten SM Naruto with relativ ease even with Gamas helps, the one who fought against Kyubi 8tails. No ninjutsu or taijutsu is allowed and in the contrary of Naruto he didn't knew the 5seconds interval from the start. He worked hard to find it. He was even about to beat Deva if it was not Asura Path, and Asura Path died in the process of course.
You can tell what you want but Kakashi did what he could at that time, and it wasn't easy at all.
About what you say after it's really laughable. Who in this serie was never save at all? Even Itachi got save by Sasuke against Kabuto. Sasuke got save by Itachi. Sasuke got saved by team Taka against Bee. Naruto got saved by Kakashi and Gai against Tobi. Gaara got killed by Deidara. Gaara got saved by Tsuchikage and the other kages. Should i continue?
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lswhyte123
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Shut up you ass.- Against Pain, you forget obviously to mention things. Before he got help, he fought in a 1vs2 against Pain, and that was against the strongest Pain if we don't count Animal Path. And he managed to outsmart them. At that time, he could have kill them, cuz Asura Path was paralyse, so he could not move, and Deva had use Bansho tenin, so he could not use his move anymore during 5seconds. But what's really funny is that he didn't knew that the real Kakashi was hiding, so Kakashi could surprise him every time like he did against Kakuzu. So in 1vs2 he could have killed at least one of them.
- You also forget to mention that Deva Path, the one he fought against has beaten SM Naruto with ease even with help(Pa,Ma, Gamabunta, and the others), and he didn't even knew at all how he could fight Deva:He says clearly: "Ninjutsu or taijutsu won't work". After that he says: "only 5seconds", meaning that the interval is too small to be able to attack him even in SM. And after that, he got destroyed by Deva alone along with other Gamas, and Naruto could do nothing:You must be registered for see images
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So it's easy to see, he had help, he had help, but what you forget it's that sometimes help bring nothing and it's easier to fight alone. It's not for nothing that Naruto wanted to fight Pain alone. You don't have time to take care of others. And the same goes with the fight against Kakuzu where Kakashi always had to save others like Ino-Choji.
So yes, he lost with help like you say, but how? Yes, it was one Path if you want, but which of them? The strongest, the one who has beaten SM Naruto with relativ ease even with Gamas helps, the one who fought against Kyubi 8tails. No ninjutsu or taijutsu is allowed and in the contrary of Naruto he didn't knew the 5seconds interval from the start. He worked hard to find it. He was even about to beat Deva if it was not Asura Path, and Asura Path died in the process of course.
You can tell what you want but Kakashi did what he could at that time, and it wasn't easy at all.
About what you say after it's really laughable. Who in this serie was never save at all? Even Itachi got save by Sasuke against Kabuto. Sasuke got save by Itachi. Sasuke got saved by team Taka against Bee. Naruto got saved by Kakashi and Gai against Tobi. Gaara got killed by Deidara. Gaara got saved by Tsuchikage and the other kages. Should i continue?
My point was to disprove the turd who said he can take anyone.
i am a kakashi fan. in fact he's my favorite in naruto series. he would have been selected as the 6th hokage if tsunade wasnt able to recover. danzo was just temporarily chosen as the acting hokage but i think kakashi would be the best choice for the position. but yes, he have lost to so many important battles and we cant say that he didnt bring out his best in all those fights. regarding the fights with any akatsuki, the only fight that he seemed to be winning was against kakuzu, but of course with help from the others. he even admitted that naruto has already surpassed him.
MinatoNamikage
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Kakashi has shown he's Kage level, sure. Pretty much, there's no opponent who would just outright beat him with no trouble, given the scale of his abilities and skill are rather high. He mainly just lacks a devastating technique, which Kamui doesn't completely fill.
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6pathofpain
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kakashi is kage level at leastShut up you ass.
My point was to disprove the turd who said he can take anyone.
He could beat gaar because his lightnig attacks can go through his sand, he's smarter an fast. Dont get me wrong if gaara gets em at a distance he can probably win but there's not alot of people who can jus walk over kakashi. An before you call me a fanboy shut up cause gaara's my 2nd favorite character.
He can beat tsuande even with her heal shit cause from the fights ive seen of her she's mostly jus power. He taijutsu wont touch someone like kakashi. Plus with his shargian an the 1000 jutsu he was said to have copied, she can't win. An yea she can instantly heal herself but not that many times im sure.
An he can beat the mizukage, im not even gonna go into how he can beat her cause forreal she's not even like that.
Im not sayin he could beat everyone, ill even name who he most deffinitly wont beat
1. Naruto
2. Sasuke
3. Kabuto
4. Itachi(im not sure why when u said he cant beat itachi you acted like there's a whole lot of people in naruto that can beat him)
5. Nagato/pain(An when you said he lost to deva path like deva couldnt beat dam near everyone in the naruto world in a 1 vs 1)
6. Tsiukage
7. A
8. tobi
9. Madara
An i could probably continue, but dont underrate kakashi like he's some nobody :sy:
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shadowfox9889
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i agree ..from what ive read cant remember which manga but there was one instant kakashi could form seals so fast that not even itachi could keep up ...not saying he could read them but could not keep up with the seals..if itachi and kakashi would fight with out MS or just sharingan ...it be a close fight but kakashi would beat him for sure.1- Maybe i've not read well, but i think no one said he could beat Itachi
2- Kamui has not beaten anyone? So do Amaterasu, TBB, Kirin, and others also.
3- It's pretty obvious that Kakashi is stronger. People are always making the mistake to compare Kakashi in part1 with current Kakashi. It's not the same. If you compare, he is faster, more intelligent, has more stamina, has MS(Kamui). He is more powerful. It's as if you say that Gaara is weak cuz he lost against Deidara in the begin of part2. Gaara improved himself as well even if he lost Shukaku(at least that is what some people say).
6pathofpain
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I agree except that last part. Kakashi an itachi fighting with out the sharingun would be a good fight but sayin kakashi would deffinitly win is a stretch cause they've both been praise for there great skill in both taijutsu an ninjutsu. Although in ninjutsu kakashi might have the upper hand because i belive they said he's copied like 1000 jutsu.
The Necromancer
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Other way around. Itachi made seals so fast kakashi couldn't even see them. There haven't been any instances where kakashi fought itachi while using a jutsu that requires seals, besides chidori.
lswhyte123
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Bolded: Kakashi was beaten soo badly by Itachi and Itachi wasn't even trying. To say that they are even in the same league, is a freaking stretch.