Kakashi and Guy vs Sound 5(no kamui no gates past 3)

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Sound 5 Wins, High-Diff. Kimimaro will do most of the work I think.
 

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Sound 5 wins.

They have no counter to:
Jirobo's Earth Release Barrier: Earth Prison Dome of Magnificent Nothingness
Kido's Webs (Chidori maybe)
Tayuya's Genjutsu
 

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Sound 5 wins.

They have no counter to:
Jirobo's Earth Release Barrier: Earth Prison Dome of Magnificent Nothingness
Kido's Webs (Chidori maybe)
Tayuya's Genjutsu

Raikiri wouldn't counter Jirobo's dome?
 

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Its ridiculous how much you guys overestimate Kimmimaru. He had a hard time defeating two genin( Garra and Lee). What makes you think he is going to defeat the two strongest jounin of the leaf. Raikiri is said to be able to cut a lightning bolt. Tell me how you think it can't break webs infused with chakra or bones. Lol.
 

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if seen this thread alot .. Kimi can solo each individually (with restrictions) .. Its plausable he can solo both .. I mean they can not touch him . taijutsu is sort of useless when Kimi goes CM1 And Kakashi has nothing to hurt him past his bone shield .. not to mention his rapid recovery rate ..
 

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Its ridiculous how much you guys overestimate Kimmimaru. He had a hard time defeating two genin( Garra and Lee). What makes you think he is going to defeat the two strongest jounin of the leaf. Raikiri is said to be able to cut a lightning bolt. Tell me how you think it can't break webs infused with chakra or bones. Lol.
LOL okay buddy
 

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Sound 5 wins.

They have no counter to:
Jirobo's Earth Release Barrier: Earth Prison Dome of Magnificent Nothingness

Going off the incredibly stupid assumption that Kakashi and Gai would even be caught by this..

You're going to try and tell me that Gai couldn't break that? In base, he punched a man through a thick concrete wall. . Or in gates breaking Sangosho. .

Kido's Webs (Chidori maybe)

Kakashi's sharingan will allow him to predict what is coming and yes use raikiri to slice through them with 0 difficulty. You'll also have an extremely hard time convincing me Gai doesn't just use his strength(his base strength, even) to break free from them.

Tayuya's Genjutsu

Part 1 Shikamaru could recognize it and break out of it, now you're telling me Tayuya is going to beat two experienced jounins(even Gai has shown the ability to recognize and break genjutsu , one who possesses a sharingan with it? I don't even..

All of this stuff for the Sound 4 is useless anyway as Kakashi and Gai speed blitz and destroy the sound four within the first couple seconds(thanks to killing intent). Kimimaro arrives 2 minutes and 55 seconds later to find the Sound 4 mutilated while Kakashi and Gai are back in Konoha enjoying some ramen.
 

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Here's something else to consider:

It appears to be in the middle of the day here:

Kakashi "traps" Sasuke to talk to him, and spooks Kido in the process

We confirm here it's still very much so day time while Kakashi is talking to Sasuke

And once again, once Kakashi leaves it's still daylight

Kido states here that he wants to wait so Kakashi isn't around when strike

..and makes them wait until it's COMPLETELY DARK outside just over the SLIGHT possibility that Kakashi might still be around

This, on top of the fact that they used CS2 vs two special jounins, were exhausted, and DIDN'T even manage to kill those two jounin should solidify the fact that Kakashi and Gai are so many leagues above the Sound 4 it's not even funny. This is also a much stronger Kakashi than the one Kido was afraid of.

There's not even really a reason to use feats from Kakashi and Gai to prove how much more superior they are than the Sound 4. Those scans above and the special jounin fiasco is enough.
 

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Here's something else to consider:

It appears to be in the middle of the day here:

Kakashi "traps" Sasuke to talk to him, and spooks Kido in the process

We confirm here it's still very much so day time while Kakashi is talking to Sasuke

And once again, once Kakashi leaves it's still daylight

Kido states here that he wants to wait so Kakashi isn't around when strike

..and makes them wait until it's COMPLETELY DARK outside just over the SLIGHT possibility that Kakashi might still be around

This, on top of the fact that they used CS2 vs two special jounins, were exhausted, and DIDN'T even manage to kill those two jounin should solidify the fact that Kakashi and Gai are so many leagues above the Sound 4 it's not even funny. This is also a much stronger Kakashi than the one Kido was afraid of.

There's not even really a reason to use feats from Kakashi and Gai to prove how much more superior they are than the Sound 4. Those scans above and the special jounin fiasco is enough.

Kimi was not there ...
 

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Kimi isn't here in this fight, either. He's 3 minutes away. Too far away to have any chance of saving the Sound 4.

Did not see that .. but no there not taking them down in 3 min ..Kido's range he fights at could stall them out enough
 

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Did not see that .. but no there not taking them down in 3 min ..Kido's range he fights at could stall them out enough

The sound 4 as a whole has no response to being speed blitzed, and with Kakashi and Gai having the mindset/intent to kill, there's nothing that says they won't do that.

If Kido were to somehow miraculously escape, it's going to do nothing to save the other 3. And then they can just deal with Kido after they've killed the other 3 with no issue at all.

We're comparing people who can fight bijuus, edo swordsmen and Obito to people who struggle to beat special jounins. It's an extremely ridiculous thought.

I know Gai is restricted to the 3rd gate, but I'm not even sure he needs the gates period to deal with them.
 

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The sound 4 as a whole has no response to being speed blitzed, and with Kakashi and Gai having the mindset/intent to kill, there's nothing that says they won't do that.

If Kido were to somehow miraculously escape, it's going to do nothing to save the other 3. And then they can just deal with Kido after they've killed the other 3 with no issue at all.

We're comparing people who can fight bijuus, edo swordsmen and Obito to people who struggle to beat special jounins. It's an extremely ridiculous thought.

I know Gai is restricted to the 3rd gate, but I'm not even sure he needs the gates period to deal with them.

How can they speed blitz 5 people 0.0 .. If they try and use Tai on sakon/ukon their body gets merged with
 

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How can they speed blitz 5 people 0.0 .. If they try and use Tai on sakon/ukon their body gets merged with

Speed blitzing 4 people, not 5, although they could do that too if the opponent is as low of a level as the Sound 4.

Sakon and Ukon wouldn't be able to respond quickly enough to either Gai or Kakashi. Kakashi with raikiri is capable of and He didn't hit Itachi, but surprised him.

Kakashi cuts through them with Raikiri, Gai breaks their necks, or uses his nun-chucks(which were capable of breaking rocks, could easily break their skulls). Whatever they choose.
 

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Speed blitzing 4 people, not 5, although they could do that too if the opponent is as low of a level as the Sound 4.

Sakon and Ukon wouldn't be able to respond quickly enough to either Gai or Kakashi. Kakashi with raikiri is capable of and He didn't hit Itachi, but surprised him.

Kakashi cuts through them with Raikiri, Gai breaks their necks, or uses his nun-chucks(which were capable of breaking rocks, could easily break their skulls). Whatever they choose.

Its not really blitzing if the opponent does not know your there, also it would be 5 Sakon and Ukon would most likely split up
 

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Its not really blitzing if the opponent does not know your there, also it would be 5 Sakon and Ukon would most likely split up

It's just an example of how fast Kakashi and Gai are. Kakashi surprised an extremely experienced opponent by blitzing him without even being noticed(I could also post scans of him blitzing two tailed Naruto when being exhausted, or blitzing Obito alongside Gai before he can warp Naruto to further back up his speed if necessary).

And Gai's speed surprised a sharingan user, Itachi never saw him coming until he had already knocked Kisame away despite his sharingan being active.
 

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It's just an example of how fast Kakashi and Gai are. Kakashi surprised an extremely experienced opponent by blitzing him without even being noticed(I could also post scans of him blitzing two tailed Naruto when being exhausted, or blitzing Obito alongside Gai before he can warp Naruto to further back up his speed if necessary).

And Gai's speed surprised a sharingan user, Itachi never saw him coming until he had already knocked Kisame away despite his sharingan being active.

Kakuzu also blitzed kakashi ..(just throwin that out there :p) ... But idk i dont like either of these people to debate about this that much .. all i know is kimi may solo both ..
 
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