[Discussion] Kaido pirates will lose 100% even without luffy

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Jack will lose to ashura douji
Queen will lose to raidkit sanji and inuarashi
King will lose to nekomuarashi and kinemon

Orochi will lose to zoro

Kaido will lose vs kid luffy and law..

Simple as that..

But if luffy face BB its different story because all samurai and mink will not join luffy..

What do you think brah?
 

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Jack will lose to ashura douji
Queen will lose to raidkit sanji and inuarashi
King will lose to nekomuarashi and kinemon

Orochi will lose to zoro

Kaido will lose vs kid luffy and law..

Simple as that..

But if luffy face BB its different story because all samurai and mink will not join luffy..

What do you think brah?
So many possible match up available tbh. I think Oda might pull a fast one on us and do a big surprise. None of us will predict this

He meant Kid, Luffy and Law lol
 
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Kaido ate Luffy’s punches got sober then blitz and rocked him to sleep. Future sight, G4 defenses and all. Boro Breath knocked a mountain clean. On the SH side Kidd/Law, Neko/Inu, Zoro/Sanji, Ashura/2nd Samurai are the obvious KEY pieces. How many are even comparable to Boundman? Cause that did NOTHING to him. Remove Luffy and Kaido is snapping spines. Kinnemon wasn’t even superior to Mingo Seats. Neko and Inu couldn’t even HARM Jack. The same one King has clowned. Oh yeah let’s hope Kaido doesn’t have Commanders between Calamities and Pleasures/Gifters or non Nova headliners. Kaido could take on this alliance on some King Kong ain’t got shit on me.
 

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Kaido ate Luffy’s punches got sober then blitz and rocked him to sleep. Future sight, G4 defenses and all. Boro Breath knocked a mountain clean. On the SH side Kidd/Law, Neko/Inu, Zoro/Sanji, Ashura/2nd Samurai are the obvious KEY pieces. How many are even comparable to Boundman? Cause that did NOTHING to him. Remove Luffy and Kaido is snapping spines. Kinnemon wasn’t even superior to Mingo Seats. Neko and Inu couldn’t even HARM Jack. The same one King has clowned. Oh yeah let’s hope Kaido doesn’t have Commanders between Calamities and Pleasures/Gifters or non Nova headliners. Kaido could take on this alliance on some King Kong ain’t got shit on me.
Agree however I want to say that the jack couldn't harm the dukes either tilk using poison
 

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Agree however I want to say that the jack couldn't harm the dukes either tilk using poison
As of now we are under the assumption that a base Jack stalemated base Dukes without any breaks for like 5 days? In a fair vs 1 vs 1, Base Jack is superior to Base Dukes. (Then naturally his hybrid form should be above their sulong forms)
 

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As of now we are under the assumption that a base Jack stalemated base Dukes without any breaks for like 5 days? In a fair vs 1 vs 1, Base Jack is superior to Base Dukes. (Then naturally his hybrid form should be above their sulong forms)
Didn't his crew say that was his strongest form when he went human though? What you're calling "base Jack" is Human Jack and I'm pretty sure his crew said that was his strongest form.
 

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Didn't his crew say that was his strongest form when he went human though? What you're calling "base Jack" is Human Jack and I'm pretty sure his crew said that was his strongest form.
Thats impossible. Then Jack shouldn't have eaten the DF if he is not going to specialize in it.
Also to be fair back then we all thought Jack was Kaido's strongest so...
 

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His DF is useful for mass destruction and inciting chaos, thus the drought tho
Most devil fruits can cause mass destruction. The "Drought" is a reference to Jack's personality.
Anyway his hybrid is his strongest. If he doesnt have one then he might as well get off paneled by someone.
 

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Thats impossible. Then Jack shouldn't have eaten the DF if he is not going to specialize in it.
Also to be fair back then we all thought Jack was Kaido's strongest so...
Not we all lol. Idk I'm pretty sure that's what they said though. Maybe he just can't utilize his animal forms well so his human is his best?
 
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Luffy usually beats his final boss villains on his own, so seeing Kid and Law intervene would be a let done. I do realize that Kaido have 3 supernovas working for him so we’re gonna have Luffy, Zoro, Kidd, Law, Killer, X Drake, Hawkins, and Apoo. That’s 8/11 supernovas that will potentially be involved.

I do t think these guys will be that easy to beat, it’s already notable that their 3rd underling has a billion bounty threat threshold on kaido’s side. I think they’re gonna need luffy.
 

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Luffy usually beats his final boss villains on his own, so seeing Kid and Law intervene would be a let done. I do realize that Kaido have 3 supernovas working for him so we’re gonna have Luffy, Zoro, Kidd, Law, Killer, X Drake, Hawkins, and Apoo. That’s 8/11 supernovas that will potentially be involved.

I do t think these guys will be that easy to beat, it’s already notable that their 3rd underling has a billion bounty threat threshold on kaido’s side. I think they’re gonna need luffy.
Personally I believe cracker >>>> jack

And I believe big mom's commanders are the strongest. I think kaidos crew has higher bounty due to actions.

I can just see katakuri destroying jack and queen by himself lol
 
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Personally I believe cracker >>>> jack

And I believe big mom's commanders are the strongest. I think kaidos crew has higher bounty due to actions.

I can just see katakuri destroying jack and queen by himself lol
I can see Katakuri beating Jack too, especially after how Ashura blitzed him like that. I think Dogtooth would be on the same level as King to be honest with you. I see Jack and Cracker on the same level though.

Why do you think Jack is weaker than Cracker?
 

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Personally I believe cracker >>>> jack

And I believe big mom's commanders are the strongest. I think kaidos crew has higher bounty due to actions.

I can just see katakuri destroying jack and queen by himself lol
You'll definitely change your opinion if Jack can use fishman karate. And you'll definelty change your opinion once you see Jack's hybrid form.

IMO King>Queen>Katakuri>Jack>Smoothie>Cracker
 

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You'll definitely change your opinion if Jack can use fishman karate. And you'll definelty change your opinion once you see Jack's hybrid form.

IMO King>Queen>Katakuri>Jack>Smoothie>Cracker
Nah, I don't see any commander even hitting katakuri.

And I see cracker > jack because jack can't produce the same power as g4 meaning he's not gonna break even one biscuit
 
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