[Discussion] Kaido and Shanks are confirmed beasts!

[Punk Hazard]

oh fanboy is such a bad term? sorry for using most accurate words to describe certain individuals but anyways once the scans break out the fanboys start to get butthurt so i dont expect much from you and vander in that regard.

Whatever crutches your argument.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

oh we are going on that oda statement, no shit if akainu, aokiji or any top tier was a main character theyd grow at a fast rate and gain allies by being themselves and become PK. He also said mothers(not big mom lol) are the strongest person in the world even more than kaido, he uses kaido as the reference point. And who did oda say to bet on 1v1 yea thats right kaido, thats in the manga. WB couldve quaked the whole island but had to be careful of his allies, he was heavily injured, and was taking a lot of damage other than just admirals it wasnt any form of 1v1 so to speak, only shanks had a true scuffle with a uninjured old WB. You continently leave that part out

BB ran away from CP0 also but was willing to face revos, the dude is an opportunist. Is CP0 especially rob lucci > BB. dont be ridiculous with this. That is such garbage hype if thats what you are relying on.

All doffy did was praise fuji not sweat bullets, he thought he can eliminate him he wasnt making a special plan, and the mere mention of kaido made him shit his pants, he even admitted that he was inferior in that pervious scan i showed you and called him an opponent he can never beat similar to how Doffy was to Law.

Admirals have the backing of the entire freaking navy what are you talking about. Was oda hyping BM or her subordinates last chapter. dont come at me with this, there are countless scans I can show u.

MF was an arc that displayed admirals, this arc is for BM, who told you admirals are getting individual arcs. That is stupid to assume, can they get more hype, yes, fuji got some just an arc or two ago and it pales in comparison to BM. He even got feats. and fuji even needed help to stop bird cage, doffy wasnt far off in power level compared to fuji. But the way oda shows the gap between kaido and doffy it makes doffy seem like a pawn. and I dont think all admirals are equal, Fuji seems like he is below akainu I dont rate him as high, no way not from what i have seen so far.

Anyways I know youre reaching when you are relying on that akainu can become PK nonsense. Come at me with an actual argument or use scans to back up your justification of akainu hype relative to kaido.


Dude I dont care what you think, why do you keep talking about how you think I am insecure, lol sorry I am not paying you to be my psychiatrist. All i said were you had warped fanboy view which is only relevant to OP and the logic you use on it, instead you come at me with ppl dont care what you say, you are insecure. I am sorry I dont care about your bs psychoanalysis, I was only talking about OP and you bring in some other nonsense.

You're now discrediting aa direct statement from Oda to suit your argument and purposely ignored(or couldn't simply comprehend)my You're beyond logical discussion. I'm done here.

Whatever crutches your argument.

Your avatar works so well with this comment.

 

[LBeezy]

Oda himself said that if Akainu was the protagonist, he'd find OP in a year & become PK. That means he'd get past Kaido, Shanks, Big Mom & Blackbeard along with their crews & allies. Oda's direct statement makes Akainu yonko tier and would be a yonko himself if he was a pirate. Guess what> The other admirals are in the same ballpark. Hell, even BB after getting the gura fruit ran away from Akainu. In Marineford, the admiral never used awakening or else they would've killed their subordinates & destroyed Marineford. They also had to protect the platform & the city, even going as far as to abandon their fights to protect them fro WB's quake punches. WB had to be saved from Kuzan & Kizaru who completely outclassed him in their short scuffles. Akainu would've killed WB's crew including Marco if Shanks never showed up, as even Marco couldn't hurt Akainu(Akainu however burned his cheek and got passed him twice chasing Luffy).

Just a glimpse of Fuji's power made Doffy sweat & lose his sh!t. When Doffy got confirmation that Fuji wouldn't attack him, he abused his position. Doflamingo never confronted Fuji and instead, tired thinking of a plan to get rid of him, taking advantage of Fuji's current passiveness. Kaidou was the strongest and has his crew backing him. Of course Doffy would sweat at that thought as he cant stop that.

What separates the admirals & yonko is that the admirals are individual powers while the yonko has a crew, allies & territory. The yonko are far more influential & dangerous. Admirals are pretty much yonkos without the manpower or territories. Since this is the Yonko Saga with the current antagonists being the yonko, of course they'd get more focus & reveals at the moment. We still don't know about Green Bull or the full strength of the other admirals.

You're just being selective. You ignore anything that doesn't support you can all those who says it fanboys. You really come off as insecure by doing that and saying stuff like "too bad you don't like me"...I mean what? I'm just going by what people say to you and how you ignore logic for the sake of your own. You keep being selective in order to get a point across that you hold as fact, even going as far as the claim you know exactly what Oda is trying to do even though you're ignoring his direct statements that proves you wrong......

@bold

I had a discussion about this with Riker the other day, and neither of us were sure on what Oda said exactly (word for word).. so I did some research and the best translation on the Internet of Oda's statement is as follows

“When creating a protagonist, it is important not to make him too strong.
For example, if Akainu becomes the protagonist, he is so strong that he can put an end to ONE PIECE within a year.“

So while this does still support your argument against arv, it is however incorrect what you said in bold in your post.. Oda never said that Akainu would become the Pirate King and find One Piece within a years time span in their world.. he simply said that if he made his antagonist, as strong as a character like Akainu, in the beginning of his story, then it would only take him a year (in our time) to finish his story/manga.

Those were clearly two different sentences......

Oh okay.. thank goodness lol..

I had to ask though, because the way you wrote it confused me a little bit.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

@bold

I had a discussion about this with Riker the other day, and neither of us were sure on what Oda said exactly (word for word).. so I did some research and the best translation on the Internet of Oda's statement is as follows

“When creating a protagonist, it is important not to make him too strong.
For example, if Akainu becomes the protagonist, he is so strong that he can put an end to ONE PIECE within a year.“

So while this does still support your argument against arv, it is however incorrect what you said in bold in your post.. Oda never said that Akainu would become the Pirate King and find One Piece within a years time span in their world.. he simply said that if he made his antagonist, as strong as a character like Akainu, in the beginning of his story, then it would only take him a year (in our time) to finish his story/manga.




Oh okay.. thank goodness lol..

I had to ask though, because the way you wrote it confused me a little bit.

Ah so I wrong about the PK part but as you said, it doesn't change anything else. What Oda meant was that if Akainu replaced Luffy at the BoS, he'd end the series within a year. The series end when one finds OP and the war concludes. Akainu would steamroll every person Luffy faced and would get pass everyone else. It'll be pretty boring & no tension hence why he said you shouldn't make a protagonist too strong.

Who the hell would think that someone can solo a Yonko and their forces??? It'll take some massive amounts of weed to think that. Even Snopp Dogg at his highest wouldn't think that.

Anyways, that arv guy has weak argument tactics and actually thinks I'm a admiral fanboy when my favorite character is Blackbeard. lol

 

[LBeezy]

Ah so I wrong about the PK part but as you said, it doesn't change anything else. What Oda meant was that if Akainu replaced Luffy at the BoS, he'd end the series within a year. The series end when one finds OP and the war concludes. Akainu would steamroll every person Luffy faced and would get pass everyone else. It'll be pretty boring & no tension hence why he said you shouldn't make a protagonist too strong.

Bro.. Akainu would DESTROOOOYYY! Lol it would be hilarious to see him show up at Alabasta or Skypeia! xd

Imagine.. they thought Enel was a God.. lol

Who the hell would think that someone can solo a Yonko and their forces??? It'll take some massive amounts of weed to think that. Even Snopp Dogg at his highest wouldn't think that.

No I'm sorry bro.. I feel bad for even questioning you about it.. but I just had to ask cause I was confused on your wording atm.. my bad man.

Anyways, that arv guy has weak argument tactics and actually thinks I'm a admiral fanboy when my favorite character is Blackbeard. lol

Lol Blackbeard is such a great character!

And yeah man, I was trying to tell arv that, yeah, maybe Oda is giving the Yonko some good hype.. but it's probably because the Admirals have more than hype right now.. they have feats.

It makes no sense to think that the Yonko are in a separate tier.. Yonko and Admirals, both, are the top tiers of the One Piece world. Simple as that.

 

[arv993]

You're now discrediting aa direct statement from Oda to suit your argument and purposely ignored(or couldn't simply comprehend)my You're beyond logical discussion. I'm done here.



Your avatar works so well with this comment.

So we are discrediting oda's word and his manga scan. No single manga scan to say akainu is the strongest. Except Oda saying that he can be PK, which can happen by being a main character, PK does not equal strongest ever. Garp and WB were equal to roger yet he was the one who made it to raftel. I'm still waiting on a scan where is akainu the better than BM or especially Kaido. I'm sorry snowflake to offend ur feelings but provide me the scans or get out with ur buddy Riker.

And plz lemme know how akainu is better when the manga literally states the contrary

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Just answer me that plz, ur reaching so much with that akainu statement it's funny. This alternative facts level shit ur pulling

@Lbreezy

No one said there's a separate tier for yonko. They are slightly above an avg admiral that's all. Which means they get the edge in a fight. Their hype puts him there. Feats are good and all but that's not the only metric of strength since yonko other tha old wb have next to no feats but based on hype we can rank them accordingly.