Kaguya has been foreshadowed longer than you realize

[Seventh Sama]

I still can't believe kishi screwed up on one of Japans oldest legends...

 

[Sennin of Logic]

how would you have made her? I think the ending was rushed based on a few things, the war arc had already gone on far longer than he expected because like he said "the characters didn't let him or the reality would be lost" so he decided to end it on chapter 700, which is a good landmark number. Also they were pushing for the Last and had already started advertising it, I don't know the behind the scenes reasons for this he could have okayed it previously, but really the war was so long at that point giving Kaguya and Sasuke their own arcs would be overkill.

For starters, I'd give a flashback about Kaguya to flesh out what I think her character would be. You know, to giver her an identity. I'd portray Kaguya as a good and empathetic person initially, and was sick of war, and sick of seeing people killed (insert friend dying here). I'd deal with the fact that the fruit was forbidden. Kaguya would be warned, but she'd say something like "I don't care about the consequence, I'm ending this nonsense now!" With her newfound power, she'd annihilate all armies, and assert herself as the ruler.

Although Kaguya would try to be a good ruler, she was hated due to ruling by force. Chakra spreads to the humans, and there's a revolt, causing the entire world to turn against her, and start to go into chaos. Because of this, she'd use expansive TSB to destroy the entire reality and create a new one to retry her rules.


This is a process that would be repeated 6 more times (6 dimensions that she uses). Chakra would also spread to the humans. Although they didn't necessarily all revolve due to Kaguya doing as much as she could being kind, the power that every human had gained led to horrible conflicts and chaos, causing mmense suffering.


Eventually, it'd go to the dimension that's NV. At some point, Kaguya desides that the only way for their to be absolute peace in the world is for a centralized all-powerful and benevolent force to police the world into a peaceful submission. After 6 failures to get humans to cooperate with her, Kaguya looses faith in humans, and relies totally on power. This , of course, turns into an oppressive rule where she tries to make it that no one has chakra but her, to rule as a godess (and not in name only like in the past). With Hagoromo and Haruma, she doesn't want to harm them, and she loves them (she did clearly raise them), but feels that they're the first steps to the destruction of the world, just like all the other times.


This would give Kaguya for more in depth character than she showed.

 

[New Dawn]

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here is princess Kaguya when she first came down from the moon in the legend

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here is the Gedou Mazou

as you can see Kaguya has been foreshadowed for a long ass time

but the gedou Mazou is Haragomo's corpse not Kaguya's.

 

[Deadmed]

but the gedou Mazou is Haragomo's corpse not Kaguya's.

That's simply incorrect, Gedou Mazou is the Juubi stripped of it's chakra and is what is sealed in the moon, the rinnegan can summon it from the moon, Hagaromo did this and held it inside of him to prolong his life after creating the Bijuu from the Juubi's chakra. Afterward, he desummoned it back into the moon where it is guarded by the Otsutsuki.

 

[Deadmed]

For starters, I'd give a flashback about Kaguya to flesh out what I think her character would be. You know, to giver her an identity. I'd portray Kaguya as a good and empathetic person initially, and was sick of war, and sick of seeing people killed (insert friend dying here). I'd deal with the fact that the fruit was forbidden. Kaguya would be warned, but she'd say something like "I don't care about the consequence, I'm ending this nonsense now!" With her newfound power, she'd annihilate all armies, and assert herself as the ruler.

Although Kaguya would try to be a good ruler, she was hated due to ruling by force. Chakra spreads to the humans, and there's a revolt, causing the entire world to turn against her, and start to go into chaos. Because of this, she'd use expansive TSB to destroy the entire reality and create a new one to retry her rules.


This is a process that would be repeated 6 more times (6 dimensions that she uses). Chakra would also spread to the humans. Although they didn't necessarily all revolve due to Kaguya doing as much as she could being kind, the power that every human had gained led to horrible conflicts and chaos, causing mmense suffering.


Eventually, it'd go to the dimension that's NV. At some point, Kaguya desides that the only way for their to be absolute peace in the world is for a centralized all-powerful and benevolent force to police the world into a peaceful submission. After 6 failures to get humans to cooperate with her, Kaguya looses faith in humans, and relies totally on power. This , of course, turns into an oppressive rule where she tries to make it that no one has chakra but her, to rule as a godess (and not in name only like in the past). With Hagoromo and Haruma, she doesn't want to harm them, and she loves them (she did clearly raise them), but feels that they're the first steps to the destruction of the world, just like all the other times.


This would give Kaguya for more in depth character than she showed.

I'm not a huge fan of your story, I think the story part was fine, Kaguya was a hollow shell of her former self twisted by the hatred of the fruit, her love for her sons twisted into hatred, her selfless wish to end wars twisted into a selfish desire to take all the chakra back that she lost. Though I do with the battle was more hectic and exciting, which is was in some parts but not in all, like the ice dimension kinda dragged on.

 

[Loki d]

Kaguya is all RAW power no magical ninjutsu. She can destroy anything.

 

[Deadmed]

Kaguya is all RAW power no magical ninjutsu. She can destroy anything.

too bad that raw power is mostly in her bones, the only thing she used her nature manipulation abilities for was to impede movement

 

[Airi]

Kishimoto has always been referencing folklore in the manga so she was bound to make an appearance.

Still doesn't excuse the fact that it was shit.

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ot: Nice catch

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

foreshadowed, came out nowhere ....... doesn't really matter.

Introducing this sorry excuse of a character in the middle of the big final battle is almost criminal. No character development, called the RABBIT Goddes (seriously?? no really??) and as if that wasn't enough, she instantly took Uchiha Madara's place as a key player in the war.

Who would introduce any other villain after developing/writing Obito and Madara in the final fight ?? must'v been smoking some really powerful stuff .......

 

[Sugiyama]

I honestly don't think that Kishi planned her appearance that early. Well, maybe he had the concept in mind long ago, but wasn't exactly planning to go as far as to make her the final villain of the show. I still think that that was a last minute decision on his part, going by the way Madara's defeat and her 'arc' were carried away and all.

 

[Deadmed]

I honestly don't think that Kishi planned her appearance that early. Well, maybe he had the concept in mind long ago, but wasn't exactly planning to go as far as to make her the final villain of the show. I still think that that was a last minute decision on his part, going by the way Madara's defeat and her 'arc' were carried away and all.

well since Kaguya is such a well known legend (the oldest known one in japanese history) the whole fact the gedou mazou comes from the moon and they send kaguya back to the moon just all makes sense, clearly this was the intention for a while. If there was an issue with it, since I think it was a amazing concept, I'd blame it on the change in editors. Kishi's new editor gave him some really bad ideas, like the whole pro wrestling theme for the cloud village, that's all I know.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

We didn't even know a person named Kaguya existed until chapter 646. Which means we did not know of Kaguya's existence(the FV) for 92% of the manga.

 

[Angelic.]

lotuses are shown in a lot of things. ive seen threads with buddha or other goddeses too.

i love when real world stories are in games and manga, but kaguya sucked lol

 

[Anime Godd]

Highly doubt it. Kishimoto didn't think of the entire manga in advance. He made stuff up as he went on. Had he planned Kaguya since then things wouldn't have gotten as mellow as they were.

This is false af when the show first started it introduced the 9 tailed demon fox and in the chunnin exams they introduced the one tailed meaning that there was a 2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 tailed as well meaning that the juubi was planned ahead and that would also mean that kaguya was planned now I think that the final enemy should have been hagaramo's brother who stole kaguya's power and kaguya the mother of both should have appeared for a glimpse to help out but then disappeared and then hagoromo to still give both sasuke and naruto the power still

 

[The Dreamer]

This is false af when the show first started it introduced the 9 tailed demon fox and in the chunnin exams they introduced the one tailed meaning that there was a 2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 tailed as well meaning that the juubi was planned ahead and that would also mean that kaguya was planned now I think that the final enemy should have been hagaramo's brother who stole kaguya's power and kaguya the mother of both should have appeared for a glimpse to help out but then disappeared and then hagoromo to still give both sasuke and naruto the power still

Looooool no. He just had the basic concept there. Twists and tricks were made later. But w/e...

 

[DroGGz0r]

He also said in something else that "him and his editor have decided the rest of the story" or something, but I forgot what that was in, you'll just have to take my word for that.

He also said that he has no idea how to defeat Madara.
Quite the planner dat Kishi...

 

[ᴍᴏᴏғʏ]

Yeah most of the characters, at the strong ones have a meaning behind mythology.