Kage Tier List

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sorry but to the person who made this thread you got those list wrong change them thanks

I'm not going to change my list because you don't agree with it. Have you heard of something called an opinion?

 

[Tazzilla88]

Because she's mostly a support shinobi and I don't believe she'd beat any of the kages in mid tier and above. She's got great healing abilities, but that's about it.

Her punches can easily be avoided by anyone with decent speed. Heck even Kabuto in part 1 was avoiding them and he's not all that fast.

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i thought that earlier but tsunade barely has a strength advantage. A has a huge speed advantage

Yeah no.
Tsunade's not stronger by much?
Her kick:

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The scale of her kick is far larger than the size of his strongest attack.
According to Tsunade healing requires a lot of chakra but she had enough chakra to heal the hidden leaf twice and summon katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra for large summons). And in her fight against Madara she used CR to heal from heavenly transfer heal 3 kages back to 100 percent, attacked Madara and his clone, and regrew her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and Yasaka Magatama). I think she can tank what ever A has to throw at her. She even tanked a Shinra Tensei from up close without healing herself.
Furthermore she's much smarter than A. And she has Katsuyu. She was also aware of Raikage's speed but he was unaware of the extent of her medical ninjutsu and she still challenged him to a fight.[/SPOILER]

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Brute strength does not determine the outcome of a fight.

We know Tsunade is stronger than Minato, but because of his skill, speed, and diversity, it is unlikely that Tsunade could beat Minato one-on-one.

A has enough endurance to tank several of her punches without dying. We know Orochimaru was able to tank Tsunade multiple times, but a argument could be made that Oro has freakishly high endurance.

A can't use any of his jutsu that requires hand seals since he only has one arm. That means he must rely on his lightning armor, speed, and his own brute force.

Judging by A's strength feats, his strength isn't too far off from Tsunade's. If it weren't for Madara's comment, many of us would have still believed A was stronger. A's punches can still cause incredible damage.

Tsunade hasn't displayed any high endurance feats, so I don't think she can tank A's punches or can move fast enough to catch/avoid the Raikage. She would need to rely on her healing abilities to last in the fight.

Although A's diversity in a fight has been drastically decreased with only one arm, his speed is a major factor that has only been rivaled by two ninjas (Naruto and Minato). If A can connect his punches to Tsunade before she releases her healing ability, and avoid Tsunade's punches (which is very possible considering his speed), then I believe A can win.

A few mistakes I want to touch on individually.

A has enough endurance to tank several of her punches without dying. We know Orochimaru was able to tank Tsunade multiple times, but a argument could be made that Oro has freakishly high endurance.

What makes you think A has that endurance. Oro only made through one technique but it was due to the soft physique technique in conjunction with it being a different body than his own.

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A is far from Tsunade' s Strength people thought he was stronger because historically she's always been underrated.
This is the power of her kick

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The area affected compared to her body size.And the fact that two buildings are destroyed as a side-effect.
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It only has the extent of the rubble because a technique clash between him and Sasuke created the circle surrounding the rubble.

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The damage done by him in comparison to his body is far smaller than Tsunade's kick.
Given the fact that we know how much area is affected by Tsunade's kick then the damage her must have been done by her punches.

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The body size to damage area ratio is similar to that of Raikage's strongest attack.

Tsunade hasn't displayed any high endurance feats, so I don't think she can tank A's punches or can move fast enough to catch/avoid the Raikage. She would need to rely on her healing abilities to last in the fight.

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Her abdomen and bicep muscles were just cut and she countered.

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Her respiratory muscles in addition to the above muscles were cut and she still blitzed Kabuto.
All the muscles Tsunade had cut were still cut and she was battling hemophobia, and was cut by the sword of Kusunagi thrice and still counter attacked

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And according to Kabuto she should not have been capable of moving.

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and even in that state shit hit him hard enough to break the ground underneath his body by punching his face.

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And Tsunade was able to land safely after coming down from the Sword whereas Kabuto was falling from much lower and had to be saved

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Here the Heavenly transfer technique should have ripped Tsunade apart but it didn't. She got cut but not compared to how she should have be ripped apart. She was intact enough to attack Madara before healing with no signs of dying.

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She tanked the Susanoo sword and three Yasaka Magatama

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and Tsunade tanked a Shinra Tensei up close with no healing of herself.

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• Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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• Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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  (it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)
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• This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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  This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)
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• This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
  
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  What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
  Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.
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• Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
  And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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  before ... being blitzed.
• So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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  she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

Now may I ask who's strikes has Raikage tanked that are of Tsunade's caliber.

Although A's diversity in a fight has been drastically decreased with only one arm, his speed is a major factor that has only been rivaled by two ninjas (Naruto and Minato). If A can connect his punches to Tsunade before she releases her healing ability, and avoid Tsunade's punches (which is very possible considering his speed), then I believe A can win.

A's attacks aren't diverse at all. But Yes what he can do is significantly less. He speed in CQC isn't saying too much. Especially not when she can attack at 360 degrees at once with her kick. The shockwaves created from her kick was strong enough to break buildings.

what about katsuyu, A will be much too fast for a slug, and unlike anything we have seen from tsunade, A does have an nature affinity, the fact the tsunade doesn't (or atleast not shown) probably puts her at the bottom of the kage list, and here is the definition of taijutsu
Taijutsu (体術?, literally "body technique" or "body skill") is a Japanese blanket term for any combat skill, technique or system of martial art using body movements that are described as an empty-hand combat skill or system

Acid?
And that's what separates strength from taijutsu.
A's nature affinity is what allows him to compete with Tsunade. But it doesn't make him greater.

You guys are thinking of Tsunade being leaps and bounds physically stronger than A....

She's stronger, but A is still maybe in the top five of normal physical strength if we include things like Sage Mode Naruto.

He can kill Tsunade with a punch about as easy as she could with him except if she's using her Yin Seal release.

However, she doesn't have the speed to keep up with A. He could literally run around her and keep her on guard until her chakra depletes.

Answered the she isn't bounds stronger than him a few quotes ago. And We've already seen her strength far greater than his without Byakougou

A? I hate when people call him that, despite it being his name. The Raikage would easily win, due to his tremendous speed and lightning armor. All Tsunade has is monster strength but what use is it where you cannot even catch your opponent? Raikage wins. Mid to High difficulty.

Yeah this isn't being taken easily by anyone. Let's say Tsunade punches the Raition armor. The armor would still have the force of her punches forced upon it and it would inevitably get to Raikage. The Same way Raikage chopped the Susanoo rib cage but the force made it to Sasuke and Sasuke started bleeding.
His speed is shunshin no jutsu we haven't seen Tsunade use a shunshin no jutsus but since know her attacks aren't slow. Neither Kabuto, Orochimaru, nor Shizune saw their blitzes coming but she blitzed all of them. In CQC that's what matters not neccesarily foot speed. And she's bounds smarter than A. Even when they were talking to Naruto she had inferred all the information where the Third Raikage needed it spelled out for him. Even if she normally couldn't touch A her shockwaves should slow him down long enough for her to get a punch in.
Let's not forget Tsunade has the body of the sage and the Uzumaki Longevity.
Tsunade wins this High difficulty.

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A vs Tsunade

1) Chakra reserve: A> Tsunade, Karin, the best sensor said that A had bijuu level chakra reserves, enough said.

2) Regeneration vs Durability: Kishi showed us a direct comparison between A's durability and Tsunade's regenration when they had to use Mabui's heavenly Tranfer technique, and A's Durabilty prevailed, he didnt sustain any damage from that technique, which was said to disintergrate a human being at cellular level if used on a person, Tsuande activated her whatever that regenration mode is called and sustained heavy damage.

Tsunade will never be able to land a hit on A, she was blitzed by pretimeskip kabuto, who wasnt that fast, against A, lol, its a joke. No one has ever been able to PHYSICALLY react to A's v2 speed, not even Minato, he needed FTG to dodge, the only person to achieve that feat is KM Naruto. Tsuande, one the , if not the slowest Kage will never touch A. Even Sasuke, who is not only faster then her, but has the sharingan to predict movements couldnt PHYSICALLY react to A's speed, his body never moved once when A was at top speed, only through ms (which has instant techniques that dont require hand seals ie. amateresu/blaze release ans susano'o did he survive)

The idea of Tsunade landing a hit on A is laughable, and even if she did, A's durability with raiton armour v2 is impenetrable by her strength, he freakn pawned heavenly transfer technique, the damage caused by that technique to a person>tsuande's super strength, Chidori PENETRATION> super strength. Irrelevent though as landing a hit is impossible for he reflexes.

A will chop of her head at the start of the battle with a horizontal chop (Like he did to the Horn of the eight tails and his own arm).

Also, tsunade cant affect A with that jutsu she used on kabuto to mess up his senses, just go to the data book and look at the mechanics of raiton armour, or read manga when C explains it, and then read what her jutsu does, you'll see why that jutsu is a joke against a raiton armour user.

BUT: We all know that Kishi would not allow A to win like that, he'll use plot no jutsu to make A not activate version two at the start of the battle so that Tsuande can weaken him and then he'll pull out a jutsu out of Tsuande's ass that will somehow pawn A. He's been doing it for the Konoha guys since the beginning, why top now.

Chakra reserves, unless we get a reading from a sensor ninja on how much Chakra Tsunade has mentioning A has bijuu level chakra is pointless. Tsunade is the one who has chakra level feats. In the Madara battle alone she healed 3 kages and restored their chakra. Healed her stomach from 3 Susanoo Swords, and 3 Yasaka Magatamas, she used creation rebirth to heal her wounds from Heavenly Transfer, and she still had more chakra to boost Oonoki's Jinton to proportions we've never seen from his solo Jinton.

I think you meant Durability overall because your point only speaks to durability and if she was so seriously injured why was she able to attack madara but then calmly heal herself? Also we're not even comparing how they respond to blunt force.
If you wanted to compare Regeneration let's look at A's left arm and watch it grow back. Tsunade on the other hand has regenerated sliced flesh, cut muscles, entire vital organs, and her spine. Yeah raikage's nub is sure killing her regeneration skills. Though she may not have the same Durability, she isn't too far behind Raikage. She has durability feats of her own such as tanking Shinra Tensei FP w/o healing. In addition to her durability she also has regeneration.
When exactly did Kabuto blitz Tsunade. I suppose you can call that time he attacked her while she was in mid-air and therefore incapable of dodging a blitz. But let's not say more about that attack than is necessary. In CQC shit happens and people get hit. I've already stated in previous posts how Tsunade can hit him

I was wondering with the horn would be brought up. The Horn would be made of the same things nails are. You're telling me that breaking a gigantic nail is impressive. By that logic when Tsunade punches him he will do like Madara and have a chunk missing. Tsunade's foot speed is a 3.5. 3.5 is a tier above average. Furthermore since this is CQC foot speed isn't very purposeful. Sasuke also couldn't move after Bee pawned him all over the place but with cut muscles and a stab and 2 sword slices she was still moving.

I've already countered the Raiton armor protects him argument.
Chidori Penetration> Tsunade's strength? WTF is that. Tsunade's punch has more penetrating power than anything we've seen or did you forget this.

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That is pentration by definition and it looks way more impressive that Sasuke's penetration with Chidori. Heavenly Transfer>

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WTF? No not at all.
I think you need to realize we more than likely have not seen of all Tsunade's techniques. We've seen 3 chapters worth of her fighting and not even full chapters of her fighting. So any other technique he uses wouldn't be coming out of her ass it would simply be expounding on her powers...

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lol i didn't say jutsus i said attacks, shock waves? never seen that link to? body derangement? never even heard of that do you mean dismantlement or something lol

Shockwaves

Also A runs a round which is effective against most people but Tsunade has shown that using shockwaves is a part of her fighting style.

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This is the span of the shockwaves she produces with a kick. Note that its powerful enough to rip apart 2 very sturdy walls in several places.

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Body Derangement

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Medical Ninjutsu attack

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We also know she can attack like Kabuto otherwise she'd have no way to compare there fighting style below

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Additionally here Jiraiya says that she punched 100 meters away. So we know at the very least she can punch objects to long distances.

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We also know that Tsunade can lift and maneuver very large objects in mid-air.

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So with her kick she creates rubble.

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From there she can pick up the rubble and throw it.

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No it's not called Fourth Raikage because if she could say regenerate her head and was pretty much invincible, Raikage wouldn't have a chance. If he still had then he has all damn right to have the show named after him xD

And you're assuming A will decapitate her.

The second part about counters wasn't directed at you. But she has plenty of chakra to tank A.

Bee's Base Lariat is stronger than A's V2 Lariat

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Tsunade's has shown more Durability feats than Sasuke.

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Here Sasuke is about to die.

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Now Tsunade has these feats.

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Her abdomen and bicep muscles were just cut and she countered.

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Her respiratory muscles in addition to the above muscles were cut and she still blitzed Kabuto.
All the muscles Tsunade had cut were still cut and she was battling hemophobia, and was cut by the sword of Kusunagi thrice and still counter attacked

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Here the Heavenly transfer technique should have ripped Tsunade apart but it didn't. She got cut but not compared to how she should have be ripped apart. She was intact enough to attack Madara before healing with no signs of dying.

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She tanked the Susanoo sword and three Yasaka Magatama

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and Tsunade tanked a Shinra Tensei up close with no healing of herself. Bee's Hachi cloak Lariat did serious damage to Sasuke's chest

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But as it was shown in the next page Sasuke was still alive and breathing which means Bee's Lariat wasn't destructive enough to take out Sasuke's Heart and Lungs.

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In fact we can still see Sasuke's ribs here

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So I doubt A's Lariat would be an insta-kill.
Additionally Tsunade appears to be rather familiar with A

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However he was totally shocked to see she survived the Susanoo sword.

And Katsuyu hasn't even been introduced to the argument. With Katsuyu by her side Tsunade wins for sure.

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Just as she would need her healing to keep up with his full power, he need his raiton cloak. A can take a hit, but can he take a hit from Tsunade. No one packs the same punch as her. He hasn't been shown taking a punch equal to her strength. Physically being bigger is a moot point. The armor has cutting potential when has time to cut, but Byakougou more than takes care of that. If Tsunade can regrow internal organs and her spine there is no reason she can't regenerate her limbs.

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Ok, so you don't think he can decapitate her? Kabuto could slice her muscles off, just like you wrote. A would definitely be able to decapitate her, lol. His lightning armor is both an offensive mechanism and defensive, meaning he can use it as a sharp lightning blade. Also, looking at the last picture, Tsunade clearly acknowledges Raikage's incredible speed which is on a totally different level than hers.
If their speeds were similar, she would have a chance, but now their speeds aren't close

Chakra scapels are different than A's Raiton Armor. smh.
The only time A has used his Raiton armor as a blade was outside of battle and he took his time. All his other attacks are blunt force attacks. Tsunade may recognize his speed, but the fact that she is able to keep up with his speed without the sharingan or similar speed says enough. Considering the will CQC his speed won't be the determining factor here. Especially since she can attack 360 degrees at once. His only 360 attack relies on trying to grapple her, when she is far stronger than him. And we know she's fully capable of running on rubble. In fact going back to medical ninjutsu there's no reason chakra scapels couldn't penetrate either. We know for a fact that chakra scapels can go through skin and blood and vessels without causing them damage, we also know they can also cut those things if need be. His shunshin no jutsu is fast. That doesn't really mean Tsunade can't counter his attacks. Shunshin no jutsu is rapid foot movement. But A's attacks last long enough for people to comment on them or for him to get some dialogue in. So no it CQC against another Taijutsu expert, Shunshin will not be the deciding factor.

seriously does tsunade have any attacks besides summoning and taijutsu she seriously sucks, A terminates her too fast

She also has medical jutsu, and body derangement technique, shockwaves, and she has the strength to launch large objects at opponents from a distance like Gamabunta's sword. She doesn't necessarily have to hang onto them though but she had to maneuver the sword into position.
Whereas A literally only has taijutsu....

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She is immortal until she runs out of chakra. Her chakra can run out, it did run out before. She used the mark against Orochimaru and Kabuto, and at the end of the battle she turned old again. Her immortality is limited, and it'll be part 1 Sasuke vs Lee. Sasuke was probably stronger than Lee, but couldn't touch him because of speed.

Are you comparing that part 1 feat to the feats I have of her endurance in my above post?

she had enough chakra to heal the hidden leaf twice and summon katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra for large summons). And in her fight against Madara she used CR to heal from heavenly transfer heal 3 kages back to 100 percent, attacked Madara and his clone, and regrew her stomach thrice (3Susanoo Swords and 3Yasaka Magatama).

Not to mention she saw the attack A was launching on Naruto but just couldn't get to Naruto to save him. So we know she's capable of anticipating his attacks in Raiton Armor V2. And movements like this

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Are counterable by Tsunade
3rd Raikage: (She has the natural counters to him. It's not that she's more powerful)Medical ninjutsu doesn't need to penetrate the skin to attack. In addition the 3rd Raikage doesn't always keep a full raiton cloak like A so he can be caught by pathway derangement. In addition Tsunade is no push over in physical strength and the 3rd Raikage performed his attacks slow enough for people to see, warn others and react to the technique. Tsunade has a 5 in intelligence. IF he is in fact stronger than her, after she lands a counter blow and sees he's not injured and she notices he's stronger, then "why you are hitting yourself no jutsu" isn't that hard to do. A proper strike in the elbow joints would reflexively make his arm come inward and at himself. Being a medical ninja Tsunade would know this. And we know Tsunade uses pressure point attacks as per this:

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If Narutos rasen shuriken didn't work on the 3rd raikage, what makes you think any of the sannins jutsus are gonna work on him? Tsunade might be stronger then A but not by that much. You have go to remember that his chakra is on the same level as a tailed beast. On top of that he's a million times faster then Tsunade. Kakashi is a Kage level shinobi so he is no push over. Team 2 still wins imo.

Because Rasen Shuriken cuts and no one is trying to cut him with wind or knives. Even still the jutsu isn't known for its strength in cutting but the number and size of the cuts.

So your saying that Tsunade can beat the third Raikage, when he alone stood toe to toe to the eight tails? The same man that held off 10,000 enemy shinobi by himself? I give Tsunade her props but I just don't see her beating him.

Yes she can, because power is not linear and she happens to have the moves that can defeat him.That's without bringing Katsuyu's acid into the equation. We don't know if he's acid proof. Katsuyu is ultimate counter to stab and slice techniques. Yes he still has black lightning but I don't really see that killing her since she can heal the damage from it, she can control electrical impulses within her own body, and she can move despite great pain.

 

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I don't see her beating A.

She'd NEVER be able to touch him. Insane strength is pointless if she can't land any hits. On the other hand A can easily blitz her and decapitate her through the means of focusing lightning chakra through his hand thus making his hand a very sharp spear.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I don't see her beating A.

She'd NEVER be able to touch him. Insane strength is pointless if she can't land any hits. On the other hand A can easily blitz her and decapitate her through the means of focusing lightning chakra through his hand thus making his hand a very sharp spear.

You really didn't read as I thought you might have that objetion. We know that Tsunade uses shockwaves. We know the shockwaves are strong enough to break through thick solid stone walls, we know A must come in to attack, a shockwave would at the very least stun him enough to leave him open for a second attack.

 

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You really didn't read as I thought you might have that objetion. We know that Tsunade uses shockwaves. We know the shockwaves are strong enough to break through thick solid stone walls, we know A must come in to attack, a shockwave would at the very least stun him enough to leave him open for a second attack.

The shockwaves come from her attacks due to them being so strong. She doesn't literally use them and they don't paralyze people.

If this is the best argument you've got then you're simply wasting my time.

 

[Tazzilla88]

The shockwaves come from her attacks due to them being so strong. She doesn't literally use them and they don't paralyze people.

If this is the best argument you've got then you're simply wasting my time.

If she doesn't literally use them against people I suggest read my response to that other guy. it's number 2. I'll wait.
Beyond that as I've already expressed in what you didn't read Raikage's feet move extremely fast however his arm movements are slow enough to counter as shown in the Sasuke vs Raikage fight. If you go to number 16 in the post to sharingdork you'll find that her base eye keeps up with A. Unless A is just going to run around in a fist out position to attack without being countered she has an opportunity to counter him.

 

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If she doesn't literally use them against people I suggest read my response to that other guy. it's number 2. I'll wait.

I've already read it and the shockwaves were caused by her strength, not her actually using them. Jiraiya even alludes to it in the next page.

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Besides shockwaves DON'T paralyze, so it's a moot point anyway.

Beyond that as I've already expressed in what you didn't read Raikage's feet move extremely fast however his arm movements are slow enough to counter as shown in the Sasuke vs Raikage fight. If you go to number 16 in the post to sharingdork you'll find that her base eye keeps up with A. Unless A is just going to run around in a fist out position to attack without being countered she has an opportunity to counter him.

A was using V1 lightning armor there, not V2. And even if the eye can keep up that doesn't mean the body can.

Tsunade was easily blitzed by Aura path and it's not anywhere near as fast as V2 A.

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[Tazzilla88]

I've already read it and the shockwaves were caused by her strength, not her actually using them. Jiraiya even alludes to it in the next page.

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Besides shockwaves DON'T paralyze, so it's a moot point anyway.



A was using V1 lightning armor there, not V2. And even if the eye can keep up that doesn't mean the body can.

Tsunade was easily blitzed by Aura path and it's not anywhere near as fast as V2 A.

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Her shockwaves were caused by her strength yes, but she used the shockwave as an attack. What caused the shockwave is irrelevant. And when enough force hits you, you become Dazed. Considering the force of the shockwave is great enough to break clean through solid stone walls, why wouldn't A be dazed?
His arm speed was counterable by Sasuke. For instance when Sasuke used Chidori to counter Elbow. Or when Sasuke saw A about to use Horizontal chop and thus coated his Susanoo in Amaterasu.
Tsunade was easily blitzed by Asura path after healing everyone in the village twice and summoning Katsuyu. Without expending anymore chakra she had already used enough chakra to enter a coma. Plus the exertion of beating the Anbu to Pein. Say what you want, but when have you seen a shinobi dodge a blitz attack on 0 chakra? Let's go down your tiers and see who's done it?
And I could very easily counter with the fact that Raikage got grabbed by Susanoo. That doesn't mean Tsunade would grab him because the circumstances were different, just as it was for Asura path. So if that's the best you have, you need to go think more critically.

 

[Yuffosan]

I think Tobirama > Hiruzen. Sorry.

 

[Shady Doctor]

Hiruzen = Onoki = Muu ?

 

[-Vegeta-]

Her shockwaves were caused by her strength yes, but she used the shockwave as an attack. What caused the shockwave is irrelevant. And when enough force hits you, you become Dazed. Considering the force of the shockwave is great enough to break clean through solid stone walls, why wouldn't A be dazed?

*Sigh* you don't get it. Tsunade broke the ground with her strength. The shockwave didn't cause the ground to break, her strength did. The shockwave was caused because of her insane strength and no shockwaves DON'T paralyze for the last time.

His arm speed was counterable by Sasuke. For instance when Sasuke used Chidori to counter Elbow. Or when Sasuke saw A about to use Horizontal chop and thus coated his Susanoo in Amaterasu.

Sasuke had to use his sharingan to counter it. Tsunade doesn't have that luxury.

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It was also only V1 A, not V2. Big big difference. As for seeing A I don't see how that's a big deal. He has the sharingan and simply looked back and saw him.

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Tsunade was easily blitzed by Asura path after healing everyone in the village twice and summoning Katsuyu. Without expending anymore chakra she had already used enough chakra to enter a coma. Plus the exertion of beating the Anbu to Pein. Say what you want, but when have you seen a shinobi dodge a blitz attack on 0 chakra?

Doesn't change the fact that she was blitzed

Let's go down your tiers and see who's done it?
And I could very easily counter with the fact that Raikage got grabbed by Susanoo. That doesn't mean Tsunade would grab him because the circumstances were different, just as it was for Asura path. So if that's the best you have, you need to go think more critically.

A was grabbed because his attention was focused on Tsunade.

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So you're really telling me Tsunade is going to react to this kind of speed?

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Both Minato and Naruto both of whom are the two fastest shinobi in Naruto were barely able to react to avoid V2 A and you think Tsunade can do it? Lol just lol.

 

[Champ]

How is Onoki ahead of Mu when he taught him Jinton and he was about to kill Onoki and Gaara if Naruto didnt interfere

 

[-Vegeta-]

How is Onoki ahead of Mu when he taught him Jinton and he was about to kill Onoki and Gaara if Naruto didnt interfere

The shinobi in each tier isn't in order based on strength. It's simply a random order with no bearing on how they compare to each other in strength.

 

[Sharingdork]

• Capable of visually keeping up with A and Naruto
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I'm going to come back here and feed the flames.

NOTHING in your pictures actually suggests that she can keep up with A and Naruto. In the first one, they've stopped and started talking before Tsunade thinks anything. In the second one, litterally nothing speed-related happens except possibly the wind up of a punch. In the third one, Tsunade is relieved that Bee stopped A's punch. No where in there is it suggested that she could see them moving, as everything she does happens after people stop.

 

[Raito]

1. Hashirama
2. Muu
3. Oonoki
4. Hiruzen
5. Minato

This is my top 5, I don't have any desire to build it up.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

How are Mei and the fourth kazekage(who used to fight shukaku daily) low level kages...
A should be in the low tier.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

2nd Mizukage doesn't need hype to be in the high level. His feats are greater than Muu's.

 

[SilverSlick]

I'm making a prediction. Tsunade will defeat Edo Madara. Just watch. Tobirama is first or second tier. Go read the manga where it says BOTH Hashi and Tobirama were the greatest shinobi of there time. I'd say 3rd behind Madara and Hashirama during their time.

 

[Negative Knight]

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This posts shows why the Third Kazekage should be High Kage Tier

He is actually a very underrated threat

I can't post reasons on here because its too long