Medical ninjutsu doesn't need to penetrate the skin to attack. In addition the 3rd Raikage doesn't always keep a full raiton cloak like A so he can be caught by pathway derangement. In addition Tsunade is no push over in physical strength and the 3rd Raikage performed his attacks slow enough for people to see, warn others and react to the technique. Tsunade has a 5 in intelligence. IF he is in fact stronger than her, after she lands a counter blow and sees he's not injured and she notices he's stronger, then "why you are hitting yourself no jutsu" isn't that hard to do. A proper strike in the elbow joints would reflexively make his arm come inward and at himself. Being a medical ninja Tsunade would know this.
Jiraiya eats Kakashi. Kakashi's only threat is Kamui. (Any of the sannin would solo him actually)
Orochimaru beats A. Oro would use gathering of snakes or Body Shedding to evade death blows from A. Not to mention his handy dandy Edos. Tobirama's s/t and Hashirama's mokuton and Oro's techs defeat A.
I say the Sannin take this.
Medical ninjutsu doesn't need to penetrate the skin to attack. In addition the 3rd Raikage doesn't always keep a full raiton cloak like A so he can be caught by pathway derangement. In addition Tsunade is no push over in physical strength and the 3rd Raikage performed his attacks slow enough for people to see, warn others and react to the technique. Tsunade has a 5 in intelligence. IF he is in fact stronger than her, after she lands a counter blow and sees he's not injured and she notices he's stronger, then "why you are hitting yourself no jutsu" isn't that hard to do. A proper strike in the elbow joints would reflexively make his arm come inward and at himself. Being a medical ninja Tsunade would know this.
Jiraiya eats Kakashi. Kakashi's only threat is Kamui. (Any of the sannin would solo him actually)
Orochimaru beats A. Oro would use gathering of snakes or Body Shedding to evade death blows from A. Not to mention his handy dandy Edos. Tobirama's s/t and Hashirama's mokuton and Oro's techs defeat A.
I say the Sannin take this.
His neck would strech out acting like a rubber band and as his neck collects the power it would turn all the force gathered back on A which out power his current force.
If Narutos rasen shuriken didn't work on the 3rd raikage, what makes you think any of the sannins jutsus are gonna work on him? Tsunade might be stronger then A but not by that much. You have go to remember that his chakra is on the same level as a tailed beast. On top of that he's a million times faster then Tsunade. Kakashi is a Kage level shinobi so he is no push over. Team 2 still wins imo.
If Narutos rasen shuriken didn't work on the 3rd raikage, what makes you think any of the sannins jutsus are gonna work on him? Tsunade might be stronger then A but not by that much. You have go to remember that his chakra is on the same level as a tailed beast. On top of that he's a million times faster then Tsunade. Kakashi is a Kage level shinobi so he is no push over. Team 2 still wins imo.
Because Rasen Shuriken cuts and no one is trying to cut him except Oro with the blade of Kusanagi. Even still the jutsu isn't known for its strength in cutting but the number and size of the cuts.
Tsunade's not stronger by much?
Her kick:
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His most powerul technie "Raiger Bomb" aka full body slam:
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The scale of her kick is far larger than the size of his strongest attack.
According to Tsunade healing requires a lot of chakra but she had enough chakra to heal the hidden leaf twice and summon katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra for large summons). And in her fight against Madara she used CR to heal from heavenly transfer heal 3 kages back to 100 percent, attacked Madara and his clone, and regrew her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and Yasaka Magatama). So let's not make claims about her chakra.
Kakashi is would be the weakest kage of the 5 shinobi nations. Mei has barely shown her moves and Kakashi has been showing us moves for nearly 600 chapters and its a question of whether he'd beat her.
So against Tsunade:
Kakashi's signature moves include Raikiri and Kamui. He has not been shown using Kamui expertly yet. But we know that three uses of kamui = dead Kakashi and 4 raikiri = dead kakashi. Which means Kamui is a last resort for Kakashi. He has shown good trap setting skills with is lightening clones. Such as when he tricked one of pein's paths. He was capable of dodging Sakura though that isn't a very large feat as she didn't use and kicks or major ground strikes. He can ready movements with his sharigan but that takes an extra toll on him not being an uchiha. He carries no long weapons. Kakashi does have long range attacks via water dragon jutsu and his lightening hounds.
Tsunade strength is unparalleled. Kakashi wasn't much more dodgy than Kabuto and Kabuto took a blood pill and a soldier pill to aid him in the battle because Tsunade had cornered him. Orochimaru was able to keep up with 4 tails Naruto but after one punch from Tsunade called it quits iirc. In addition she has her chakra scapels, Katsuya, her disruption technique, her healing techniques, huge chakra reserves and the ability to alter the batttlefield with pure strength. I think we are underrating Tsunade's intelligence here. She's brilliant really, even beyond her medical field. Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive. She tricked Jiraiya into drinking a substance and played it off perfectly. In short she's not going to stand around and allow any attack. She's going to strategize.
So let's recap. Kakashi uses Lightening blade his hand is trapped in her and she kills him with a punch
Kakashi uses Kamui he may get her but she is a fairly small target that moves in very odd ways.
Kakashi summons ninja dogs... either she kills them or she summons katsuya
Kakashi uses lightening beast runner technique she dodges like she was with kabuto's attacks
kakashi uses lightening cutter he has to get close do so and when he does the technique requires both him and his clone if either is destroyed the technique is over aswell
Kakashi has done basic level genjutsu however people who have precise control over their chakra can stop their chakra and end the genjutsu. In addition to fact that she was able to easily undue to the damage done by Itachi's tsukyomi.
Kakashi's water dragon jutsu may give her some problems but for how long can he hold her off at a long distance. He doesn't combine his attacks so I doubt a water dragon kamui combo is going to happen nor is a lightening beast kamui combo .
Based upon the ease of which she is able to treat sharingan related injuries and she lived during the time in which the Uchiha had their power she is most likely fully informed on the sharingan's power. I am also certaint her grandfather and granduncle would have warned her of the dangers.
Kakashi also does not stray away from taijutsu fights which is to is his detriment. You might say that he knows of Tsunade's strength, true, but he also knew of Sakura's and still went toe to toe with her. Beyond that the only ones who know of Creation Rebirth are Kabuto, Naruto and Shizune and her anbu guards. Everyone else is dead or weren't there. And only the four other kage and possibly Kabuto know about Byakougou. Furthermore only Kabuto knows about her body pathway derangement technique.
So against Body Derangement Jutsu Kakashi has nothing
Against Heavenly Kick of Pain he can only dodge
Against her punches he can only dodge
Against Creation Rebirth or Byakougou he has to land Kamui on her head.
Against chakra scapels he has nothing
Against Katsuya who can crush him or melt him he has nothing
You don't blitz Tsunade. Kabuto tried from underground. Raikiri is extremely loud if you remember correctly so he won't sneak up on her with that. She won't fall for headhunter jutsu. And When Tsunade is out for your blood I think we've seen that she stays in constant motion. In addition Kakashi has no idea how durable she is she tanked the Heavenly Transfer Technique, the Susanoo Sword, the Sword of Kusanagi thrice, Yasaka Magatama, Shinra Tensei full force.
Very Simply Kakashi can't take her on. His one ace in the whole is using Kamui against Tsunade when she doesn't stand still and she fights in awkward positions.
Against Jiraiya: Dark Swamp + Toad Oil Flame Bullet Combo
Against Oro: Formation of ten thousand snakes
And as I demonstrated in my original post Tsunade can beat the third Raikage.
Oro would beat A.
Jiraiya would defeat Kakashi in Base and prepare frog song if the other two are still around. >_>
If Narutos rasen shuriken didn't work on the 3rd raikage, what makes you think any of the sannins jutsus are gonna work on him? Tsunade might be stronger then A but not by that much. You have go to remember that his chakra is on the same level as a tailed beast. On top of that he's a million times faster then Tsunade. Kakashi is a Kage level shinobi so he is no push over. Team 2 still wins imo.
Tsunade would smash A's face in if they both went for a head on direct attack, which, cmon, that's all A does.
And who's chakra is on a tailed beasts level? The 3rds? Maybe, but not A. And yes Kakashi is kage level, but the Sannin are still above him.
Also: Everyone needs to get their sh1t together and realize that Jman is no pushover. He has ways he can beat the 3rd raikage. (Swamp, toad stomach, barrier, etc)
What about 3rd Raikage is so special again, pleaseeee enlighten me.
Sannin win High difficulty. Orochimaru > Kakashi. Tsunade > A, SM Jman > 3rd,
(With all their Summonings, Orochimaru 8 headed snake, Tsunade Mitonic mode, Sm of course for Jman)
What about 3rd Raikage is so special again, pleaseeee enlighten me.
Sannin win High difficulty. Orochimaru > Kakashi. Tsunade > A, SM Jman > 3rd,
(With all their Summonings, Orochimaru 8 headed snake, Tsunade Mitonic mode, Sm of course for Jman)
Tsunade would smash A's face in if they both went for a head on direct attack, which, cmon, that's all A does.
And who's chakra is on a tailed beasts level? The 3rds? Maybe, but not A. And yes Kakashi is kage level, but the Sannin are still above him.
Also: Everyone needs to get their sh1t together and realize that Jman is no pushover. He has ways he can beat the 3rd raikage. (Swamp, toad stomach, barrier, etc)
You might need to reread the manga, when Saskue faught A at the Kage summit Kirin who is sensory type ninja clearly states that As chakara level is that of a tailed beast, and how the f*ck is Tsnunade gonna smash A's face when she clearly can't keep up with his speed. And nobody is saying that Jman is a pushover. Maybe you need to get your sh!t together.
Because Rasen Shuriken cuts and no one is trying to cut him except Oro with the blade of Kusanagi. Even still the jutsu isn't known for its strength in cutting but the number and size of the cuts.
Tsunade's not stronger by much?
Her kick:
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His most powerul technie "Raiger Bomb" aka full body slam:
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The scale of her kick is far larger than the size of his strongest attack.
According to Tsunade healing requires a lot of chakra but she had enough chakra to heal the hidden leaf twice and summon katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra for large summons). And in her fight against Madara she used CR to heal from heavenly transfer heal 3 kages back to 100 percent, attacked Madara and his clone, and regrew her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and Yasaka Magatama). So let's not make claims about her chakra.
Kakashi is would be the weakest kage of the 5 shinobi nations. Mei has barely shown her moves and Kakashi has been showing us moves for nearly 600 chapters and its a question of whether he'd beat her.
So against Tsunade:
Kakashi's signature moves include Raikiri and Kamui. He has not been shown using Kamui expertly yet. But we know that three uses of kamui = dead Kakashi and 4 raikiri = dead kakashi. Which means Kamui is a last resort for Kakashi. He has shown good trap setting skills with is lightening clones. Such as when he tricked one of pein's paths. He was capable of dodging Sakura though that isn't a very large feat as she didn't use and kicks or major ground strikes. He can ready movements with his sharigan but that takes an extra toll on him not being an uchiha. He carries no long weapons. Kakashi does have long range attacks via water dragon jutsu and his lightening hounds.
Tsunade strength is unparalleled. Kakashi wasn't much more dodgy than Kabuto and Kabuto took a blood pill and a soldier pill to aid him in the battle because Tsunade had cornered him. Orochimaru was able to keep up with 4 tails Naruto but after one punch from Tsunade called it quits iirc. In addition she has her chakra scapels, Katsuya, her disruption technique, her healing techniques, huge chakra reserves and the ability to alter the batttlefield with pure strength. I think we are underrating Tsunade's intelligence here. She's brilliant really, even beyond her medical field. Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive. She tricked Jiraiya into drinking a substance and played it off perfectly. In short she's not going to stand around and allow any attack. She's going to strategize.
So let's recap. Kakashi uses Lightening blade his hand is trapped in her and she kills him with a punch
Kakashi uses Kamui he may get her but she is a fairly small target that moves in very odd ways.
Kakashi summons ninja dogs... either she kills them or she summons katsuya
Kakashi uses lightening beast runner technique she dodges like she was with kabuto's attacks
kakashi uses lightening cutter he has to get close do so and when he does the technique requires both him and his clone if either is destroyed the technique is over aswell
Kakashi has done basic level genjutsu however people who have precise control over their chakra can stop their chakra and end the genjutsu. In addition to fact that she was able to easily undue to the damage done by Itachi's tsukyomi.
Kakashi's water dragon jutsu may give her some problems but for how long can he hold her off at a long distance. He doesn't combine his attacks so I doubt a water dragon kamui combo is going to happen nor is a lightening beast kamui combo .
Based upon the ease of which she is able to treat sharingan related injuries and she lived during the time in which the Uchiha had their power she is most likely fully informed on the sharingan's power. I am also certaint her grandfather and granduncle would have warned her of the dangers.
Kakashi also does not stray away from taijutsu fights which is to is his detriment. You might say that he knows of Tsunade's strength, true, but he also knew of Sakura's and still went toe to toe with her. Beyond that the only ones who know of Creation Rebirth are Kabuto, Naruto and Shizune and her anbu guards. Everyone else is dead or weren't there. And only the four other kage and possibly Kabuto know about Byakougou. Furthermore only Kabuto knows about her body pathway derangement technique.
So against Body Derangement Jutsu Kakashi has nothing
Against Heavenly Kick of Pain he can only dodge
Against her punches he can only dodge
Against Creation Rebirth or Byakougou he has to land Kamui on her head.
Against chakra scapels he has nothing
Against Katsuya who can crush him or melt him he has nothing
You don't blitz Tsunade. Kabuto tried from underground. Raikiri is extremely loud if you remember correctly so he won't sneak up on her with that. She won't fall for headhunter jutsu. And When Tsunade is out for your blood I think we've seen that she stays in constant motion. In addition Kakashi has no idea how durable she is she tanked the Heavenly Transfer Technique, the Susanoo Sword, the Sword of Kusanagi thrice, Yasaka Magatama, Shinra Tensei full force.
Very Simply Kakashi can't take her on. His one ace in the whole is using Kamui against Tsunade when she doesn't stand still and she fights in awkward positions.
Against Jiraiya: Dark Swamp + Toad Oil Flame Bullet Combo
Against Oro: Formation of ten thousand snakes
And as I demonstrated in my original post Tsunade can beat the third Raikage.
Oro would beat A.
Jiraiya would defeat Kakashi in Base and prepare frog song if the other two are still around. >_>
So your saying that Tsunade can beat the third Raikage, when he alone stood toe to toe to the eight tails? The same man that held off 10,000 enemy shinobi by himself? I give Tsunade her props but I just don't see her beating him.
So your saying that Tsunade can beat the third Raikage, when he alone stood toe to toe to the eight tails? The same man that held off 10,000 enemy shinobi by himself? I give Tsunade her props but I just don't see her beating him.
Medical ninjutsu doesn't need to penetrate the skin to attack. In addition the 3rd Raikage doesn't always keep a full raiton cloak like A so he can be caught by pathway derangement. In addition Tsunade is no push over in physical strength and the 3rd Raikage performed his attacks slow enough for people to see, warn others and react to the technique. Tsunade has a 5 in intelligence. IF he is in fact stronger than her, after she lands a counter blow and sees he's not injured and she notices he's stronger, then "why you are hitting yourself no jutsu" isn't that hard to do. A proper strike in the elbow joints would reflexively make his arm come inward and at himself. Being a medical ninja Tsunade would know this.
Please explain how she is going to get past his ultimate sheild? From what I read in the manga the only person to ever hurt the third Raikage was himself. If one shinobi can take on a tailed beast all by himself is just a badass to me. I could be wrong after all I am pretty new to Nb to begin with. So please enlighten me.
You might need to reread the manga, when Saskue faught A at the Kage summit Kirin who is sensory type ninja clearly states that As chakara level is that of a tailed beast, and how the f*ck is Tsnunade gonna smash A's face when she clearly can't keep up with his speed. And nobody is saying that Jman is a pushover. Maybe you need to get your sh!t together.
Show me the manga page and I'll say I'm wrong. Also, yes A is fast, but I guess i'll restate what i said. A's attacks are frontal an direct, you telling me he'll never collide with Tsunade's punch or kick? When that happens, yeah A is gonna take a beating until he realizes that.
Oh and correct me if I'm wrong, but many people on this thread said the 3rd would destroy Jiraiya. So nah, you need to. :sy:
Show me the manga page and I'll say I'm wrong. Also, yes A is fast, but I guess i'll restate what i said. A's attacks are frontal an direct, you telling me he'll never collide with Tsunade's punch or kick? When that happens, yeah A is gonna take a beating until he realizes that.
Oh and correct me if I'm wrong, but many people on this thread said the 3rd would destroy Jiraiya. So nah, you need to. :sy:
