Just a little clarification.. Kirin > Preta Path

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You missed out the part where it says absorbs all Ninjutsu im pretty shocked actually...

I think your partially correct because Sasuke uses a minimal amount of his chakra to shape the lightning into that of a dragon. So technically speaking, Preta path would be able to absorb that small amount of chakra but the attack would still be their since it's still natural lightning.

Kirin is ninjutsu because of the small amount of chakra sasuke uses to shape and guide the lightning, but the actual attack itself is just natural lightning.
 
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Is kirin a ninjutsu yes or no

does it say in the official naruto databook that preta path absorb all ninjutsu yes or no

preta path path absorbs ninjutsu that consist chakra... and most ninjutsu coming from chakra

kirin is a ninjutsu.... ninjutsu thats control actual lightning... lightning =/= chakra

thus, preta path cant absorb kirin.... do you get it? its simple logic
 

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Is kirin a ninjutsu yes or no

does it say in the official naruto databook that preta path absorb all ninjutsu yes or no

preta path path absorbs ninjutsu that consist chakra... and most ninjutsu coming from chakra

kirin is a ninjutsu.... ninjutsu thats control actual lightning... lightning =/= chakra

thus, preta path cant absorb kirin.... do you get it? its simple logic
 

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I think your partially correct because Sasuke uses a minimal amount of his chakra to shape the lightning into that of a dragon. So technically speaking, Preta path could absorb it but only that small amount of chakra, the attack would still be their since it's still natural lightning.

Kirin is ninjutsu because of the small amount of chakra sasuke uses to shape and guide the lightning, but the actual attack itself is just natural lightning.
Perhaps but its still ninjutsu regardless and is being manipulated so it should be absorbed like Madara absorbing the lightening nin vs the alliance that was just pure light
preta path path absorbs ninjutsu that consist chakra... and most ninjutsu coming from chakra

kirin is a ninjutsu.... ninjutsu thats control actual lightning... lightning =/= chakra

thus, preta path cant absorb kirin.... do you get it? its simple logic

Argues against what kishimoto wrote says simple logic now thats irony
 

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Hmm, seeing as how Kirin is largely made up of natural lightning, and if there is any lightning chakra in it, it's minimal and only used to shape/drag it down to an intended location.

The Preta Path will not be capable of absorbing it. It would be like saying that the Preta Path can absorb water if you throw him in the ocean. Water does not equal water infused chakra.
 

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my arguments and others are still within factual limits that coming from databook.... this is a matter of terminologies... still within the fundamentals of whats the meaning of ninjutsu and petra path... so my logic is sound
 

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Hmm, seeing as how Kirin is largely made up of natural lightning, and if there is any lightning chakra in it, it's minimal and only used to shape/drag it down to an intended location.

The Preta Path will not be capable of absorbing it. It would be like saying that the Preta Path can absorb water if you throw him in the ocean. Water does not equal water infused chakra.

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Does this mean Gaara> preta path?

hahaha

I agree!!

Technically Gaara does that same thing with his sand, that sasuke does with lightining.​

While I do agree with the thread, the chakra in kirin is minimal & wont change the fact that lightning is hitting you in the face, gaara's sand is completely different.

All of gaara's sand is infused with chakra, so its significant compared to the amount or chakra that sasuke uses for kirin. Also, gaara uses his chakra to control the sand, he cant control the sand if preta absorbs it, therefore the sand would just drop.

Now back OT: While kirin is a jutsu, the actual technique itself is the manipulation of lightning, therefore it would not work because logically speaking if the chakra was absorbed, you would still be left with the raw lightning...A normal kirin would get absorbed no problem, because a normal kirin does not utilize the actual lightning, but instead sasuke uses his chakra. However this particular kirin would shatter preta.
 

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While I do agree with the thread, the chakra in kirin is minimal & wont change the fact that lightning is hitting you in the face, gaara's sand is completely different.

All of gaara's sand is infused with chakra, so its significant compared to the amount or chakra that sasuke uses for kirin. Also, gaara uses his chakra to control the sand, he cant control the sand if preta absorbs it, therefore the sand would just drop.



Now back OT: While kirin is a jutsu, the actual technique itself is the manipulation of lightning, therefore it would not work because logically speaking if the chakra was absorbed, you would still be left with the raw lightning...A normal kirin would get absorbed no problem, because a normal kirin does not utilize the actual lightning, but instead sasuke uses his chakra. However this particular kirin would shatter preta.

there are many factors regarding to kirin... speed,power,etc...

in terms of speed, lightning is extremely fast, as sasuke stated,is a jutsu that you cannot avoid... it is like 100% hit rate... imagine, when the lightning hits you and the petra path absorbing it,he lose already.. even if petra path manage to absorb all the chakra parts,the lightning already hits you.. a goner.. in terms of kirin's power, he's totally toast

the most sensible to do is to block as what itachi did.. you cannot avoid and absorb... and also.. rather than using petra path, better use shinra tensei.. it make sense since you cant run or absorb....

COMMON SENSE
 

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there are many factors regarding to kirin... speed,power,etc...

in terms of speed, lightning is extremely fast, as sasuke stated,is a jutsu that you cannot avoid... it is like 100% hit rate... imagine, when the lightning hits you and the petra path absorbing it,he lose already.. even if petra path manage to absorb all the chakra parts,the lightning already hits you.. a goner.. in terms of kirin's power, he's totally toast

Speed & power doesnt matter, size doesnt matter, nothing matters. Preta is said to absorb all chakra, it may take a while due to size but if preta is active as a chakra infused kirin is cast then preta survives. Look at jiraiya's big ball rasengan, or naruto's RS. Naruto's RS should've obliterated preta path going by power but it just flopped, & a normal kirin would do the same.

the most sensible to do is to block as what itachi did.. you cannot avoid and absorb... and also.. rather than using petra path, better use shinra tensei.. it make sense since you cant run or absorb....

Shinra tensei would also work, & it would be more effective because its faster. Prata is slow when absorbing chakra depending on the size of the jutsu, so it would be inefficient to use it.

COMMON SENSE

Yes, common sense dictates that preta would absorb anything infused with chakra, however since the kirin in question is not made up of chakra, it would obliterate preta.
 

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Speed & power doesnt matter, size doesnt matter, nothing matters. Preta is said to absorb all chakra, it may take a while due to size but if preta is active as a chakra infused kirin is cast then preta survives. Look at jiraiya's big ball rasengan, or naruto's RS. Naruto's RS should've obliterated preta path going by power but it just flopped, & a normal kirin would do the same.



Shinra tensei would also work, & it would be more effective because its faster. Prata is slow when absorbing chakra depending on the size of the jutsu, so it would be inefficient to use it.



Yes, common sense dictates that preta would absorb anything infused with chakra, however since the kirin in question is not made up of chakra, it would obliterate preta.

Nuff Said.. ^^
 

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Speed & power doesnt matter, size doesnt matter, nothing matters. Preta is said to absorb all chakra, it may take a while due to size but if preta is active as a chakra infused kirin is cast then preta survives. Look at jiraiya's big ball rasengan, or naruto's RS. Naruto's RS should've obliterated preta path going by power but it just flopped, & a normal kirin would do the same.

for me, it matter because kirin is totally at a diferent scale then other jutsu,even it dwarf RS.. and lightning strikes within seconds, all that power concentrated in that tenth of a second.. so i'm quite suspicious petra path could absorb all that but this thing is still a theory wise,anything can happen.. hehe

Shinra tensei would also work, & it would be more effective because its faster. Prata is slow when absorbing chakra depending on the size of the jutsu, so it would be inefficient to use it.

yep..

Yes, common sense dictates that preta would absorb anything infused with chakra, however since the kirin in question is not made up of chakra, it would obliterate preta.

the bold word is not directed to you actually, i direct it the 'another' fella .. haha :snick:
 

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In my earlier VS Thread between Sasuke, Pain, Nagato, Gokage, and Madara


A discussion came up, I'd like more opinions on the situation. The debate was whether Kirin could be absorbed by a Preta Path.



Thoughts anyone?

True. Seeing as how petra path tried to absorb nature chakra and ended up like this:
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Doubt.

More likely that if Kirin makes contact with Gakido, it would extract the chakra Sasuke is using to manipulate the lightening meaning it would immediately lose all sense of purpose and direction and be dispersed. It's no different absorbing the chakra from real water used to form a suiton dragon; the water would just be dispersed.
 

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I agree Spehiom
 

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Doubt.

More likely that if Kirin makes contact with Gakido, it would extract the chakra Sasuke is using to manipulate the lightening meaning it would immediately lose all sense of purpose and direction and be dispersed. It's no different absorbing the chakra from real water used to form a suiton dragon; the water would just be dispersed.

Somewhat likely.. but not completely.. As shown earlier Sasuke states he simply guides the lightning.. I'm pretty sure upon impact it wouldn't change it's trajectory or disperse (after the small amount of chakra is absorbed); This would have been more likely if Kirin was nearly half composed of chakra however once lightning strikes in that 1/1000th of a second.. it's hitting it's target.

I agree Spehiom
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