[Discussion] Juha Bach vs Aizen

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Shinigami Aizen loses but Hyogku Aizen wins. Decide Ichigo and Aizen are the strongest in the series?
Ichigo beat Aizen with just a fraction of his true power. It is very strange when people think, that Aizen is the strongest. He lost to Ichigo did not have even access to his real power.
 

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Ichigo beat Aizen with just a fraction of his true power. It is very strange when people think, that Aizen is the strongest. He lost to Ichigo did not have even access to his real power.
Please tell me where it was said Dangai Ichigo only had a FRACTION of his true power. Besides Ichigo never 'defeated' Aizen lol, Ichigo would of died if not for Urahara's sealing kido.
 

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Please tell me where it was said Dangai Ichigo only had a FRACTION of his true power. Besides Ichigo never 'defeated' Aizen lol, Ichigo would of died if not for Urahara's sealing kido.
Because his you are seeing his true shikai form. It the Hokyoku did not healed Aizen, he would die.
 

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And you know as well that his Qunicy power suppresses his latent potential. He has no full access to his powers . But he was also trained by Ichibei Hyōsube. You saw how strong Renji and Rukia became. Not to mentioned that Ichigo has now his true power and got even more power thank to the training.
 
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And you know as well that his Qunicy power suppresses his latent potential. He has no full access to his powers . But he was also trained by Ichibei Hyōsube. You saw how strong Renji and Rukia became. Not to mentioned that Ichigo has now his true power and got even more power thank to the training.
You do realise he had his quincy powers aswell, what do you think zangestu was. But my point still stand it was more than a FRACTION of his full power.
 

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I do not deny the fact, that he is strong, but what do you expect from Aizen ? He needed the Hokyoku to be at the level of Yammato. Bach beat Yammato and killed him. He Also is about to kill the 0 division those guys are stronger than Yammato.

And the end his fodder.
As I said, Yamamoto is just out of nearly everyone's league.

+ Yhwach played dirty in fight against Yamamoto.
+ Yhwach killed Battlworn Yamamoto without bankai.

Not really that impressive.
 

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Kanzen Saimin don't confuse sense of time.
+ In order for Kanzen Saimin to work, Aizen need to release his zanpakuto, I don't know how could he release his zanpakuto, if it's marged with his arm.
That bold ? When did it happens ?In Anime all it was said is Aizen lost his Zanpakutou. o_O
I google'd Forbidden Tale Base and got nothing :rolleyes:
 

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That bold ? When did it happens ?In Anime all it was said is Aizen lost his Zanpakutou. o_O
I google'd Forbidden Tale Base and got nothing :rolleyes:
It didn't happen :p

SilverAssassin thinks that KS actually merged (instead of disappearing) with Aizen and that he used Kanzen Saimin to fool Yhwach.

ofc, you got nothing. We are top secret organization, only chosen can enter it, we control world. U_U (Oops I said a lot).
 
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It didn't happen :p

SilverAssasin thinks that KS actually merged (instead of disappearing) with Aizen and that he used Kanzen Saimin to fool Yhwach.

ofc, you got nothing. We are top secret organization, only chosen can enter it, we control world. U_U (Oops I said a lot).
Oh I see xD.Weird,I didn't got notification for getting quoted by you :|.Did you get one when quoted by me ? o_O

Let me enter it.I already have a spy in your secret organisation :rolleyes:
 

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Nope, I got just one when SilverAssassin quoted me and he quoted me a lot in this thread.

I said it's top secret organization (even though I talk a lot about it xD), it's impossible that you have spy in it, it wouldn't be top secret organization. :p
 

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Nope, I got just one when SilverAssassin quoted me and he quoted me a lot in this thread.

I said it's top secret organization (even though I talk a lot about it xD), it's impossible that you have spy in it, it wouldn't be top secret organization. :p
If Bach killed or beat the 0 division, that means Bach has surpass Yammato. It is matter of fact that 0 division is stronger, than Yammato.
 

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Kanzen Saimin don't confuse sense of time.
+ In order for Kanzen Saimin to work, Aizen need to release his zanpakuto, I don't know how could he release his zanpakuto, if it's marged with his arm.
I fear his bankai abilities are merging Zanpaktou with his body in resort to be alive . It's a theory but it's pretty much possible before Hogyoku rejected him he resorted to his bankai to merge his zanpaktou .
 

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You do realise he had his quincy powers aswell, what do you think zangestu was. But my point still stand it was more than a FRACTION of his full power.
His is are source Ichigo awakened his Quincy power when he was trapped in Jail.


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If Bach killed or beat the 0 division, that means Bach has surpass Yammato. It is matter of fact that 0 division is stronger, than Yammato.
Yhwach's Powers depends upon his Sternritters so he is like father in full metal Alchemist just trying to become one and let his soliders die .

Man he is only trying to play God wait till Soul king gets rid of him .
 

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Yhwach's Powers depends upon his Sternritters so he is like father in full metal Alchemist just trying to become one and let his soliders die .

Man he is only trying to play God wait till Soul king gets rid of him .[/QUO
It is true, but it does not change the fact, that Bach is stronger than Yammato now. He will beat the 0 division and how will stop him?
Ichigo is the only one.
 

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Yhwach's Powers depends upon his Sternritters so he is like father in full metal Alchemist just trying to become one and let his soliders die .

Man he is only trying to play God wait till Soul king gets rid of him .[/QUO
It is true, but it does not change the fact, that Bach is stronger than Yammato now. He will beat the 0 division and how will stop him?
Ichigo is the only one.
I agree with you on this . I believe Yama was stronger than zero divison combined and was only one able to hold Yhwach.
 

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No the 0 division are strong than Yammato.
Yhwach left his Elites, Uryuu and Hashwalth to deal with Senjumaru, Kirio, Oetsu and Tenjiro.

Yhwach to same that Hashwalth said that he and every other Quincy in his army are not strong enough to beat Yamamoto. Still he left them to fight with these 4.

On the other hand Yhwach left to confort Ichibei alone.. Which speaks a lot. For know Ichibei shows pretty good fight. Only one who out of RG can end stronger than Yamamoto is Ichibei, but he need to show more than just this.
 

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Yhwach left his Elites, Uryuu and Hashwalth to deal with Senjumaru, Kirio, Oetsu and Tenjiro.

Yhwach to same that Hashwalth said that he and every other Quincy in his army are not strong enough to beat Yamamoto. Still he left them to fight with these 4.

On the other hand Yhwach left to confort Ichibei alone.. Which speaks a lot. For know Ichibei shows pretty good fight. Only one who out of RG can end stronger than Yamamoto is Ichibei, but he need to show more than just this.
Angry Old Monk incoming in next Chapter . Like Yhwach said he will be defeated in three moves.
 
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