jiraya and tsunade vs sasuke EMS

[-Vegeta-]

no he isn't but , jiraiya is a master of stealth , he can go invisible as i showed you in one of the links , he can just turn into a shadow , and if he get's hit he can seal the flames , because as we seen the flames won't burn you instantly , actually they has the same effect as normal flames except they can't be turned off until they burn you (the raikage must of held him self for a minute before he cute his arm)

All Sasuke has to do is look at him and it hits him. Also we have no idea how that jutsu even works considering it's never shown in the manga. Also do you really believe amaterasu isn't hotter than regular flames? If that was the case then Bee wouldn't of been screaming in pain when he was hit with amaterasu. They're also said to be as hot as the sun. I also fail to see how Jiraiya's going to seal them when they're burning the hell out of him.

 

['Kurapika]

All Sasuke has to do is look at him and it hits him. Also we have no idea how that jutsu even works considering it's never shown in the manga. Also do you really believe amaterasu isn't hotter than regular flames? If that was the case then Bee wouldn't of been screaming in pain when he was hit with amaterasu. They're also said to be as hot as the sun. I also fail to see how Jiraiya's going to seal them when they're burning the hell out of him.

i fail to see how he is going to get hit in the first place . considering he already knows ametresu and is the best ninja in hiding we have yet seen
and please provide me with proof that ametresu is instant , because if so than why didn't sasuke just look at the mizukage when he was about to die
and he looked at darui and the raikage and garaa for quiet some time and he didn't burn them why didn't he just burn danzo the moment he saw him instead of letting him unlock all those locks and get ready for at least two minutes
saying that ametresu is impossible to doge makes it seem like sasuke is some kind of god or something

 

[-Vegeta-]

i fail to see how he is going to get hit in the first place . considering he already knows ametresu and is the best ninja in hiding we have yet seen
and please provide me with proof that ametresu is instant , because if so than why didn't sasuke just look at the mizukage when he was about to die
and he looked at darui and the raikage and garaa for quiet some time and he didn't burn them why didn't he just burn danzo the moment he saw him instead of letting him unlock all those locks and get ready for at least two minutes
saying that ametresu is impossible to doge makes it seem like sasuke is some kind of god or something

He chooses when and when not to use amaterasu. It doesn't just appear when he looks at people. He has to choose to use it. Also Muu is the best ninja at hiding considering he can turn invisible and make his chakra disappear as well so not even sensor ninjas can detect him. Also here are some examples of amaterasu:

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[Owarij]

i fail to see how he is going to get hit in the first place . considering he already knows ametresu and is the best ninja in hiding we have yet seen
and please provide me with proof that ametresu is instant , because if so than why didn't sasuke just look at the mizukage when he was about to die
and he looked at darui and the raikage and garaa for quiet some time and he didn't burn them why didn't he just burn danzo the moment he saw him instead of letting him unlock all those locks and get ready for at least two minutes
saying that ametresu is impossible to doge makes it seem like sasuke is some kind of god or something

Proof amaterasu is instant?

Look at their distance,

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2nd amaterasu

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sasuke's

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Tobi seeing the ms , but not even having time to go invunerable

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You would notice all of those scenario's amaterasu appears on the target...

Allow me to show you the difference of jutsu that travels

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['Kurapika]

He chooses when and when not to use amaterasu. It doesn't just appear when he looks at people. He has to choose to use it. Also Muu is the best ninja at hiding considering he can turn invisible and make his chakra disappear as well so not even sensor ninjas can detect him. Also here are some examples of amaterasu:

you almost been truthful with your self , but you do realize that he needs to activate his MS and concentrate on his target first , and since jiraiya has knowledge off ametresu he will know that sasuke is about to use it and just use one of his sneaky techs

 

[lswhyte123]

And Bee is stronger than Jiraiya so that entire point is meaningless.



Jiraiya had no idea what amaterasu was when Itachi used it. Here's the scan to prove it.

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Good find. I seem to recall in the anime that he knew what it was. Then again, the anime kinda sucks donkey b***s.

 

[-Vegeta-]

you almost been truthful with your self , but you do realize that he needs to activate his MS and concentrate on his target first , and since jiraiya has knowledge off ametresu he will know that sasuke is about to use it and just use one of his sneaky techs

It takes a second to activate ms and then all he has to do is look at his target. Also this sneaky jutsu that you keep talking about has NEVER been shown in the manga so there's no way of knowing how it even works. Also Jiraiya doesn't know anything about amaterasu. He only knows about black flames. He doesn't know how they got there.

Good find. I seem to recall in the anime that he knew what it was. Then again, the anime kinda sucks donkey b***s.

You can never trust the anime because they always put filler parts in there that aren't in the manga.

 

[Owarij]

you almost been truthful with your self , but you do realize that he needs to activate his MS and concentrate on his target first , and since jiraiya has knowledge off ametresu he will know that sasuke is about to use it and just use one of his sneaky techs

Jiraya has knowledge of amaterasu? where did you get that from? am i missing something? His words in the viz translations etc were " What in the world are these black flames....." then he took out a scroll and sealed it...He doesn't know amaterasu comes out itachi's eyes, he doesn't know anything about it

 

['Kurapika]

i don't understand if this guy is on my side or on yours xd

Good find. I seem to recall in the anime that he knew what it was. Then again, the anime kinda sucks donkey b***s.

 

[SasukeUchiha5]

Probably EMS Sasuke. Tsunade would die quick. And even tobi said Sasuke would become stronger than Nagato. And Sasuke basically already is so it goes to sasuke.

 

['Kurapika]

Jiraya has knowledge of amaterasu? where did you get that from? am i missing something? His words in the viz translations etc were " What in the world are these black flames....." then he took out a scroll and sealed it...He doesn't know amaterasu comes out itachi's eyes, he doesn't know anything about it

dude do you even read the manga , are you telling me jiraiya (kanoha's spy and info gatherer) will not get any knowledge from seeing ametresu used , i recall him even concluding that they won't turn off unless they burn their target
and added to that he will just sit down while sasuke is closing one eye and tuning into MS
and he knows that MS gives you a special ability from knowing kakashi
and don't tell me how short it will take sasuke to turn on his MS and concentrate because i'm pretty sure even a second is enough for a ninja to move the fouck out , and especially if he is jiraiya
and with jiraiya fighting style , sasuke might never get to see him for a second at all

 

[lswhyte123]

My conclusion really is that Naruto(as a series) doesn't have fights that are as one sided as DBZ, people aren't sooo amazing that they totally outclass others in the same way. If you have 2 amazing Shinobi,who are beyond jounin against another like Sasuke, you don't get a fight which is totally one-sided. It would be a close call. I personally think that just cause we didn't get to see Jiraiya against any Uchiha elite techiniques, doesn't mean he wouldn't know how to handle them. I don't think either of them would fall for a technique like that...not easily anyway. So I still believe the Sannin would win. With regards to Tsunade, I agree we haven't seen her do much other than suck but this doesn't mean she isn't a total badass. But hey, let's wait n see how she holds up against Madara. Might get some insight as to her potential.

 

['Kurapika]

Probably EMS Sasuke. Tsunade would die quick. And even tobi said Sasuke would become stronger than Nagato. And Sasuke basically already is so it goes to sasuke.

sasuke doesn't have a key secret , if the secret of pain was known to jiraiya he might of had a chance to win
he already took out two paths with mid difficulty and took out another with one arm :| it's all about the secret

 

[lswhyte123]

i don't understand if this guy is on my side or on yours xd

No sides buddy. Just trying to make educated decision through reasoning. Jiraiya & Tsunade didn't make it to old age by sippin tea(it was sake). I think they've a good chance of victory. Sasuke is great and has had many good fights and a lot of powers but I recall him being saved in most of his fights...fact. This fact alone makes me think that he is more vulnerable than he (and many other uchiha fanboys/girls)would like to believe.

 

[Owarij]

dude do you even read the manga , are you telling me jiraiya (kanoha's spy and info gatherer) will not get any knowledge from seeing ametresu used , i recall him even concluding that they won't turn off unless they burn their target
and added to that he will just sit down while sasuke is closing one eye and tuning into MS
and he knows that MS gives you a special ability from knowing kakashi
and don't tell me how short it will take sasuke to turn on his MS and concentrate because i'm pretty sure even a second is enough for a ninja to move the fouck out , and especially if he is jiraiya
and with jiraiya fighting style , sasuke might never get to see him for a second at all

how in gods name would he get info on it ? only tobi, itachi knew about it......

i recall him even concluding that they won't turn off unless they burn their target

You're making stuff up now...

and added to that he will just sit down while sasuke is closing one eye and tuning into MS

What are you talking about? ms can activate in a second...

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and how fast do you think base jiraya is -_-

and he knows that MS gives you a special ability from knowing kakashi
and don't tell me how short it will take sasuke to turn on his MS and concentrate because i'm pretty sure even a second is enough for a ninja to move the fouck out , and especially if he is jiraiya

I guess i got my answer...You're a ******* if you think jiraya can run away in 1 second, thats yellow flash speed....I'm done no arguing with someone who doesn't understand how long 1 second is

 

[-Vegeta-]

sasuke doesn't have a key secret , if the secret of pain was known to jiraiya he might of had a chance to win
he already took out two paths with mid difficulty and took out another with one arm :| it's all about the secret

Pein's secret was that the real one wasn't there. How does that help Jiraiya win?

 

[Hei]

well jman is one of my fav characters so w'll go with jman and tsunade

 

['Kurapika]

Pein's secret was that the real one wasn't there. How does that help Jiraiya win?

for one part he wouldn't of been out numbered at the same rate if he disposed of the metal things on the two paths he killed earlier
and since he managed to hide from the paths before he could of just went to the highest tower and attacked nagato instead (it's not like they were able to detect him before) and he would of known that each path can only use one ability which would of made him attack that first path instead of his summons
and he would of used sage chakra with that chakra sucking path

 

[-Vegeta-]

for one part he wouldn't of been out numbered at the same rate if he disposed of the metal things on the two paths he killed earlier
and since he managed to hide from the paths before he could of just went to the highest tower and attacked nagato instead (it's not like they were able to detect him before) and he would of known that each path can only use one ability which would of made him attack that first path instead of his summons
and he would of used sage chakra with that chakra sucking path

Nagato wasn't in the highest tower. He was in a tree.

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[Owarij]

Nagato wasn't in the highest tower. He was in a tree.

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think he's talking about jiraya vs nagato, he was in the tower, when they travelled to konoha, he was in a tree