Jiraiya vs Sasuke.

Who wins?

  • Sasuke

    Votes: 86 36.9%
  • Jiraiya

    Votes: 147 63.1%

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Another thread we don't have enough info to answer.... And *shock* another thread using two characters with very large fan base. No wonder it's on hot threads already.

I think people who create these threads should be massed -rep. It's a horrible trend and frankly it's annoying to see every week the same formula applied by the same people:

Pick two characters with large fan base (one of them with not enough info), make v.s. thread, then wait till turns out into a pointless fanboy vs hater flame war, hit the hot thread top, collect the kuddus.

OT: We don't have enough info on EMS Sasuke to make a plausible outcome for this fight.
 

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Yeah we did not, but imagine Sasuke ms + itachi ms, Sasuke takes this with susanoo... and i dont need to explain why...


Show me the proof that it drains alot of chakra. I agree, he has more endurance then sasuke, but clearly we dont know sasukes new susanoo form, if we say that its hes combined with itachi, he would get yata mirror + sword of totsuka, Jiraiya isnt fast enough to dodge the sword either, and how is jiraiya going to penetrate that shield without frog genjutsu? ur underestimating sasuke, and overrate jiraiya a little bit, jiraiya is very powerful, i think hes in the top 10 but the way sasuke is now is just to much, Khisi is going to put Naruto and Sasuke equal, so its like ur saying, Jiraiya > Naruto KM and SM
I don't think he has the sword or sheild. He didn't have them in the first photo they've shown, but it doesn't mean he won't. As of now, it's pure speculation if he has it or not because we havent SEEN Sasuke pull them out, much less being in a fight. Your logic and reasons make alot of sense, but I think Kishi should keep the sword and sheild with Itachi--it was one of his special, unique abilities.

Besides, Itachi had it with his Susanoo as an Edo-Tensei body, whilst Sasuke was healing with Itachi's eyes in his sockets. I know Sasuke wasn't use to his new eyes yet, much less using them, but they still can't be in "two" places at once. The sword and sheild are legendary items, not an actual jutsu; Itachi just pulled them out during Susano'o. I don't think transplanting Itachi's eyes (even thought they kept his ocular power) gave Sasuke those items.

I know many people will dissagree with the paragraphs above, but I don't want this to turn into an argument. It would make sense if he did get the two items, but it would make just as much sense if he didn't. It's all up to Kishi, and since we don't have enough solid evidence (either way it wouldn't matter) arguing wouldn't accomplish or change anything. Kishi's choice, not ours.
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Another thread we don't have enough info to answer.... And *shock* another thread using two characters with very large fan base. No wonder it's on hot threads already.

I think people who create these threads should be massed -rep. It's a horrible trend and frankly it's annoying to see every week the same formula applied by the same people:

Pick two characters with large fan base (one of them with not enough info), make v.s. thread, then wait till turns out into a pointless fanboy vs hater flame war, hit the hot thread top, collect the kuddus.

OT: We don't have enough info on EMS Sasuke to make a plausible outcome for this fight.
Wise words. And you're absolutely right
 

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Frog kata too much for sasuke young & reckless . Remember jariyah is a sannin like sasuke's sensei . I personally think he can't even fight 2 or 3 pains . Jariyah took them all on
 

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Jiraya!all the way.in sage mode he is quicker and a hella lot more powerful!one hit from his gigantic rasengan on sasuke and its all over.he has more experience and and better understanding of justu.who cares if sasuke has the ems, madara had it and the 1st hokage kicked his ass!use overrate the ems to much!
WTF....are you guys really that dense. He's a Sannin for Christ sake...there aren't many people in the world of Naruto that could win against any 1 of the 3. His experience alone would beat Sasuke...

If you are going to remove toad gen then remove tsukuyomi. Your a moron dude. Bullsh** thread.
THIS^^^^^^is majorly agreeable....


untill i see new powers and strenth jiraya
smarts-jiraya>sasuke
strenth-jiraya>sasuke
skill-jiraya>sasuke
only prob is susno
I'm sure jaraiya has some sort of sealing tech that'll probably limit if not stop him from using Susanoo...

Point is you guys terribly OVERRATE the EMS....it's not the Say All End All....and it's definitely not gonna do a brat with a big brother revenge complex any good. The only person that Sasuke every really killed was a stupid old man who misused and couldn't keep up with how many eyes he had on his arms.....Jiraiya went toe to toe with the Leader of the Hidden Rain and SURVIVED.....that alone speaks volumes.......just sayin....:no_ignore:
 
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EMS Sasuke has basically the same abilities as MS, just he has perfect eye sight with less fatigue.
I'm gonna direct you to my thread here.

No, it's not the same topic, nor am I trying to get views. I am just tired of re-posting this for every time I see an "EMS (insert random Uchiha here) vs. anybody else".



We do not know what the EMS does yet, so why do we have these threads?

At the moment, it's just an MS with permanate eyesight.
Yeah i know, i already said this in my thread as shown above :)
 

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As much as I love Jiraiya he isn't beating Sasuke. Even with amaterasu restricted Sasuke could just summon susanoo and use his arrows and Jiraiya isn't fast enough to dodge them. Kakashi had to use kamui just to avoid it.

38 votes for Jiraiya, really? Do people even have common sense anymore? Jiraiya can't avoid susanoo's arrows and he can't break through susanoo. Jiraiya's my favorite character but he's not winning this fight.
Jiraiya's in Sage Mode and he isfast enough to dodge the arrows, he can turn his hands and legs into toad-like which we all saw was really fast against Pain. Also you seem to forget Jiraiya is a sensory type in Sage Mode and would sense the attack smiliar to what Naruto's clone did with the 3rd Raikage. As for Sasunoo, Mud swamp river and Sasuke is sinking since Sasunoo barely move around and isn't fast. Jiraiya gots a big chakra reserve thats increase with Sage Mode and can use Shadow Clone also. Ma toad can weaken Sasuke's sight with dust cloud jutsu. Mei was able to melt Sasuke's sasunoo with her lava element (fire+earth) and boil element (fire+water) and Jiraiya's jutsus are powered up in Sage Mode and combine his jutsus with Ma and Pa toad like he did against Pain (Fire+Oil+Wind).
 

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OMG so overrating the EMS, so far we have only seen that sasuke got his perfect eyesight back, so stop saying EMS would beat him while MS would'nt so far it's pretty much the same.

Well Jiraiya win's

Strength Jiraiya > Sasuke
Speed(base) Jiraiya < Sasuke
Speed (Full) Jiraiya > Sasuke
Intelligence Jiraiya >= Sasuke
experience Jiraiya >>> Sasuke

So far i only see Sasuke giving a good fight if he has susano'o or else jiraiya wins this one without genjutsu. But Jiraiya would probably figure something out about Susano'o in the end.
 

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Yeah we did not, but imagine Sasuke ms + itachi ms, Sasuke takes this with susanoo... and i dont need to explain why...

Yeah actually you do....Danzo was able to find a weak point in Sasukes' Susanoo and beat it....and Jariaya is 100x the shinobi Danzo was...so try again...

Show me the proof that it drains alot of chakra. I agree, he has more endurance then sasuke, but clearly we dont know sasukes new susanoo form, if we say that its hes combined with itachi, he would get yata mirror + sword of totsuka, Jiraiya isnt fast enough to dodge the sword either, and how is jiraiya going to penetrate that shield without frog genjutsu? ur underestimating sasuke, and overrate jiraiya a little bit, jiraiya is very powerful, i think hes in the top 10 but the way sasuke is now is just to much, Khisi is going to put Naruto and Sasuke equal, so its like ur saying, Jiraiya > Naruto KM and SM
Stop speculating and just assuming he'll get legendary items. Just because his brother had them, doesn't mean their like heirlooms and passed down from generation to generation. And Yes Jiraiya is a lot faster than that slow ass sword of Totsuka.

To hell with your top 10...he's at least top 5. a Sannin, who in the ninja world to take one on single handedly and win???....You know what, I'll go get some tea, and hopefully you have the answer when I come back. Ebisu even said it himself, the only way to beat a Sannin is to send another after it. Even though we haven't seen much of Jiraiya doing frog katas...I don't think sasuke would have a chance in hell....

What you're doing is basing a win off a newly acquire EMS that you readily don't know about....Jiraiya outclasses Sasuke by a green mile, but what other facts can you point out to an uchiha fanbase that this thread is pointless. A Sannin vs. a kid with a big brother revenge complex....REALLY???:flaw::flaw:
 

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Stop speculating and just assuming he'll get legendary items. Just because his brother had them, doesn't mean their like heirlooms and passed down from generation to generation. And Yes Jiraiya is a lot faster than that slow ass sword of Totsuka.

To hell with your top 10...he's at least top 5. a Sannin, who in the ninja world to take one on single handedly and win???....You know what, I'll go get some tea, and hopefully you have the answer when I come back. Ebisu even said it himself, the only way to beat a Sannin is to send another after it. Even though we haven't seen much of Jiraiya doing frog katas...I don't think sasuke would have a chance in hell....

What you're doing is basing a win off a newly acquire EMS that you readily don't know about....Jiraiya outclasses Sasuke by a green mile, but what other facts can you point out to an uchiha fanbase that this thread is pointless. A Sannin vs. a kid with a big brother revenge complex....REALLY???:flaw::flaw:
Stop speculating and just assuming he'll get legendary items. Just because his brother had them, doesn't mean their like heirlooms and passed down from generation to generation. And Yes Jiraiya is a lot faster than that slow ass sword of Totsuka.

1: I did say, because we dont know Sasukes ''true powers yet'' lets assume thats its equal Sasuke ms + Itachi ms itachi ms susanoo has the legendary wep.


To hell with your top 10...he's at least top 5. a Sannin, who in the ninja world to take one on single handedly and win???....You know what, I'll go get some tea, and hopefully you have the answer when I come back. Ebisu even said it himself, the only way to beat a Sannin is to send another after it. Even though we haven't seen much of Jiraiya doing frog katas...I don't think sasuke would have a chance in hell....

2: Shinobis who are dead stronger then jiraiya, Hanzo,Nagato Hizuren, Minato, First/Second Hokage, 3rd raikage, Muu, second mizukage ehm more? Madara atleast thats more then 5, and shinobis alive, Oonoki,Sasuke,Naruto,(Tobi) Killer bee and thats more then 5 again... even though he was a sannin, doesnt mean hes the most powerful shinobi ever dude.... u overrate him by saying hes top 5, he is in top 10

What you're doing is basing a win off a newly acquire EMS that you readily don't know about....Jiraiya outclasses Sasuke by a green mile, but what other facts can you point out to an uchiha fanbase that this thread is pointless. A Sannin vs. a kid with a big brother revenge complex....REALLY???:flaw::flaw:

3: I said, (AGAIN) lets assume Sasuke MS + Itachi MS ( A Combination of them) So ur thinking that Naruto Km + bunshins cannot take Jiraiya? Naruto said himself to sasuke ''if we fight, we both end up dyng'' > Means they are equal. So tell me.... Can jiraiya beat Naruto? this is not a uchiha fanbase, they are lot of Senju/Uzumaki fans, and alot of J-man, if u have read my other posts, Jiraiya is 1 of my favourite characters, when he died, naruto felt less good... Yeah that Kid beated, Deidara without ms,Danzo and took Raikages Arm with MS and now we are assuming with EMS, Jiraiya takes Sasuke with just ms not EMS
 

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Stop speculating and just assuming he'll get legendary items. Just because his brother had them, doesn't mean their like heirlooms and passed down from generation to generation. And Yes Jiraiya is a lot faster than that slow ass sword of Totsuka.

1: I did say, because we dont know Sasukes ''true powers yet'' lets assume thats its equal Sasuke ms + Itachi ms itachi ms susanoo has the legendary wep.


To hell with your top 10...he's at least top 5. a Sannin, who in the ninja world to take one on single handedly and win???....You know what, I'll go get some tea, and hopefully you have the answer when I come back. Ebisu even said it himself, the only way to beat a Sannin is to send another after it. Even though we haven't seen much of Jiraiya doing frog katas...I don't think sasuke would have a chance in hell....

2: Shinobis who are dead stronger then jiraiya, Hanzo,Nagato Hizuren, Minato, First/Second Hokage, 3rd raikage, Muu, second mizukage ehm more? Madara atleast thats more then 5, and shinobis alive, Oonoki,Sasuke,Naruto,(Tobi) Killer bee and thats more then 5 again... even though he was a sannin, doesnt mean hes the most powerful shinobi ever dude.... u overrate him by saying hes top 5, he is in top 10

What you're doing is basing a win off a newly acquire EMS that you readily don't know about....Jiraiya outclasses Sasuke by a green mile, but what other facts can you point out to an uchiha fanbase that this thread is pointless. A Sannin vs. a kid with a big brother revenge complex....REALLY???:flaw::flaw:

3: I said, (AGAIN) lets assume Sasuke MS + Itachi MS ( A Combination of them) So ur thinking that Naruto Km + bunshins cannot take Jiraiya? Naruto said himself to sasuke ''if we fight, we both end up dyng'' > Means they are equal. So tell me.... Can jiraiya beat Naruto? this is not a uchiha fanbase, they are lot of Senju/Uzumaki fans, and alot of J-man, if u have read my other posts, Jiraiya is 1 of my favourite characters, when he died, naruto felt less good... Yeah that Kid beated, Deidara without ms,Danzo and took Raikages Arm with MS and now we are assuming with EMS, Jiraiya takes Sasuke with just ms not EMS
Ebisu knows nothing...Bout anything.
 
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