Jiraiya vs Sasuke.

[-Vegeta-]

How do you know that he's not fast enough?? What proof do you have?? You say that he can't get through Susanoo...hell Danzo did, and he's at least 3 times smarter than he is....All you have is assuption that he can't dodge or block Susanoo...hell who's to say that Sasuke will even get a chance to use it??....Just sayin....:no_ignore:

Kakashi had to use kamui just to avoid the arrow so do you really believe Jiraiya could avoid it? Also Danzo broke through a incomplete susanoo. I'd love to see him get through the one with full armor.

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Jiraiya's strongest attack is odoma rasengan and that didn't even scratch Madara's susanoo ribcage so what makes you think it would do anything to a full armored susanoo?

 

[MangekyouJ]

A odama rasengan did nothing to a incomplete susanoo so what makes you think it would even scratch a full one with armor?

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You have no logic other then I love Jiraiya so he wins. Sorry my friend but that's not logic.

Madaras' Susanoo and Sasukes' Susanoo are at different strengths....if you haven't noticed...all the Susanoo's have been different...different Susanoo's with different weapons and characteristics......just saying....:no_ignore:

 

[-Vegeta-]

Madaras' Susanoo and Sasukes' Susanoo are at different strengths....if you haven't noticed...all the Susanoo's have been different...different Susanoo's with different weapons and characteristics......just saying....:no_ignore:

Now who's the one with the assumptions? And even if they were at different strengths the gap isn't so big that a odoma rasengan would break through Sasuke's full susanoo while it did nothing against Madara's incomplete one.

 

[Kianto]

The poll is laughable. I'd like someone to give me a logical answer to how Jiraiya gets through susanoo or how he avoids the arrows? He's not fast enough to avoid them nor is he strong enough to break through it. It's sad when bias overrides logic and common sense.

Still I can't really say that I'm surprised considering NB is filled with fanboys who don't have common sense.

true, Jiraiya cant win, he cant penetrate the susanoo, if he traps sasuke in toad, he will just use susanoo to either penetrate with the arrow in frogs stomach to jump out, if he gets caught in swamp, he just needs to use hawk summon. Jiraiya isn't fast enough either to dodge arrow... no one of those jiraiya fans have actually explained how he should beat sasuke. and i assume that EMS sasuke = Sasuke MS + Itachi Ms (in this case) Stamina/chakra wise... i dont think sasuke has lower with hes new ems, why`? cuz kishi wouldn't be dumb to put sasuke vs Naruto (KM massive amout of chakra) without huge powerup like naruto got. Both cant use genjutsu and sasuke cant use ama, if threadmaker said no susanoo then i would have accepted jiraiya > Sasuke

 

[MangekyouJ]

Kakashi had to use kamui just to avoid the arrow so do you really believe Jiraiya could avoid it? Also Danzo broke through a incomplete susanoo. I'd love to see him get through the one with full armor.

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Jiraiya's strongest attack is odoma rasengan and that didn't even scratch Madara's susanoo ribcage so what makes you think it would do anything to a full armored susanoo?

Well because it wasn't Jariaya's OdamaRasengan that hit Madaras' Susanoo...it was Naruto's....We can't compare Rasengan strengths because we don't know their base power.....Konohamaru's Rasengan destroyed a Path of Pain, now with that being said, if the Rasengan is chakra based......how much chakra does it take to actually do damage because both Jariaya and Naruto have extreme big chakra reserves....

You know what...I'd love to see him break through a complete one too but that's gonna be very difficult cuz he DED....lol

 

[-Vegeta-]

Well because it wasn't Jariaya's OdamaRasengan that hit Madaras' Susanoo...it was Naruto's....We can't compare Rasengan strengths because we don't know their base power.....Konohamaru's Rasengan destroyed a Path of Pain, now with that being said, if the Rasengan is chakra based......how much chakra does it take to actually do damage because both Jariaya and Naruto have extreme big chakra reserves....

You know what...I'd love to see him break through a complete one too but that's gonna be very difficult cuz he DED....lol

More assumptions coming from the guy who told me all I had were assumptions

 

[Kianto]

Well because it wasn't Jariaya's OdamaRasengan that hit Madaras' Susanoo...it was Naruto's....We can't compare Rasengan strengths because we don't know their base power.....Konohamaru's Rasengan destroyed a Path of Pain, now with that being said, if the Rasengan is chakra based......how much chakra does it take to actually do damage because both Jariaya and Naruto have extreme big chakra reserves....

You know what...I'd love to see him break through a complete one too but that's gonna be very difficult cuz he DED....lol

chakra based? hmm so ur saying Jiraiyas chakra > Narutos?

 

[Blaze Release]

Madaras' Susanoo and Sasukes' Susanoo are at different strengths....if you haven't noticed...all the Susanoo's have been different...different Susanoo's with different weapons and characteristics......just saying....:no_ignore:

Bs, thats your excuse because you cannot come up with a counter worthy enough. Madara's v1 susano withstood raikage strongest punch without living a scratch. Similarly sasuke's v1 susano also withstood raikage's strongest punch without leaving a scratch

 

[Gutsy]

Alright Jiraiya will still win this, he is smart enough together with Ma & Pa, also Goemon can melt Susano. It's already shown possbile by the Mizukage.

Jiraiya is way faster in SM than Kakashi, also he can reverse summon himself away.

Sasuke's Susano is powerful yet not complete, also his Susano had trouble melting and with pure strength that is its problem.

Also NAruto and Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan are not equal(Not saying it can)

I think some people overrate susano, because it is strong both defensive and offensive, dude you can get through it, it is said that Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan could carve out a whole mountain!

Jiraiya would win, he can dodge the attacks and even if he is not strong enough he can outlast sasuke or figure out it's weakness.

Jiraiya knows about has never been caught in genjutsu and he is fast enough for Amaterasu and in SM he is so fast the wall behind him almost broke, the only reason PEin could defend himself was because he came straight at him, and cuz he could absrob it, if not pain would have been crushed right there.

Jiraiya is powerful, but sasuke is also powerful it will be with extreme diff jiraiya wins.

When did Sasuke's susano be that strong, dude durring the five kage summon he would have been completely destroyed, the only reason he survived was because of Gaara stopped Raikage, or else he would have been dead, even with susano and Amaterasu.

 

[ShikamaruNara94]

Well because it wasn't Jariaya's OdamaRasengan that hit Madaras' Susanoo...it was Naruto's....We can't compare Rasengan strengths because we don't know their base power.....Konohamaru's Rasengan destroyed a Path of Pain, now with that being said, if the Rasengan is chakra based......how much chakra does it take to actually do damage because both Jariaya and Naruto have extreme big chakra reserves....

You know what...I'd love to see him break through a complete one too but that's gonna be very difficult cuz he DED....lol

Naruto has perfected Sage Mode twhilst Jiraiya hasn't. Naruto has also surpassed Jiraiya, it's safe to say that Naruto's rasengan is stronger than Jiraiyas.

 

[sunnex]

iraiya with summon(toad) will win with mid difficulty.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Alright Jiraiya will still win this, he is smart enough together with Ma & Pa, also Goemon can melt Susano. It's already shown possbile by the Mizukage.

Jiraiya is way faster in SM than Kakashi, also he can reverse summon himself away.

Sasuke's Susano is powerful yet not complete, also his Susano had trouble melting and with pure strength that is its problem.

Also NAruto and Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan are not equal(Not saying it can)

I think some people overrate susano, because it is strong both defensive and offensive, dude you can get through it, it is said that Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan could carve out a whole mountain!

Jiraiya would win, he can dodge the attacks and even if he is not strong enough he can outlast sasuke or figure out it's weakness.

Jiraiya knows about has never been caught in genjutsu and he is fast enough for Amaterasu and in SM he is so fast the wall behind him almost broke, the only reason PEin could defend himself was because he came straight at him, and cuz he could absrob it, if not pain would have been crushed right there.

Jiraiya is powerful, but sasuke is also powerful it will be with extreme diff jiraiya wins.

Jiraiya fanboy logic at its best right here. When you can prove to me that Jiraiya's odoma rasengan is much much more powerful than Naruto's then maybe I'll listen to you. Naruto's rasengan did NOTHING to a incomplete susanoo and I highly doubt Jiraiya's odoma rasengan is insanely superior to Naruto's if even superior at all.

Jiraiya has shown nothing that can penetrate a full susanoo and the scan I just showed above is Sasuke's full susanoo. To also say he can dodge amaterasu and susanoo is ridiculous as well. Unless Jiraiya's faster than A then he isn't dodging them. And if you really say Jiraiya is faster than A then you really need to cancel your account and go read the manga again.

 

[Kianto]

Alright Jiraiya will still win this, he is smart enough together with Ma & Pa, also Goemon can melt Susano. It's already shown possbile by the Mizukage.

Jiraiya is way faster in SM than Kakashi, also he can reverse summon himself away.

Sasuke's Susano is powerful yet not complete, also his Susano had trouble melting and with pure strength that is its problem.

Also NAruto and Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan are not equal(Not saying it can)

I think some people overrate susano, because it is strong both defensive and offensive, dude you can get through it, it is said that Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan could carve out a whole mountain!

Jiraiya would win, he can dodge the attacks and even if he is not strong enough he can outlast sasuke or figure out it's weakness.

Jiraiya knows about has never been caught in genjutsu and he is fast enough for Amaterasu and in SM he is so fast the wall behind him almost broke, the only reason PEin could defend himself was because he came straight at him, and cuz he could absrob it, if not pain would have been crushed right there.

Jiraiya is powerful, but sasuke is also powerful it will be with extreme diff jiraiya wins.

When did Sasuke's susano be that strong, dude durring the five kage summon he would have been completely destroyed, the only reason he survived was because of Gaara stopped Raikage, or else he would have been dead, even with susano and Amaterasu.

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read others post before comment, i agree that Goemon can melt Susano but sasuke can just re active it... Sasuke susanoo is complete with ems... read the manga... on second thought... it might not melt sasukes armor susanoo ... it melt madaras version 1 susanoo but how do u know it can melt susanoo armor version..

 

[Kianto]

iraiya with summon(toad) will win with mid difficulty.

and yes im Obama...

 

[sunnex]

Naruto has perfected Sage Mode twhilst Jiraiya hasn't. Naruto has also surpassed Jiraiya, it's safe to say that Naruto's rasengan is stronger than Jiraiyas.

+ naruto clone fought against edo madara not the real one and we all know that a clone is just some % of the real one. Which make me believe that the clone resengan won't be equal to the real naruto rasengan.

 

[Minator93]

Even with all his MS abilities Sasuke is no match for Jiraiya.

 

[ranniely]

Alright Jiraiya will still win this, he is smart enough together with Ma & Pa, also Goemon can melt Susano. It's already shown possbile by the Mizukage.

Jiraiya is way faster in SM than Kakashi, also he can reverse summon himself away.

Sasuke's Susano is powerful yet not complete, also his Susano had trouble melting and with pure strength that is its problem.

Also NAruto and Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan are not equal(Not saying it can)

I think some people overrate susano, because it is strong both defensive and offensive, dude you can get through it, it is said that Jiraiya's Oodoma Rasengan could carve out a whole mountain!

Jiraiya would win, he can dodge the attacks and even if he is not strong enough he can outlast sasuke or figure out it's weakness.

Jiraiya knows about has never been caught in genjutsu and he is fast enough for Amaterasu and in SM he is so fast the wall behind him almost broke, the only reason PEin could defend himself was because he came straight at him, and cuz he could absrob it, if not pain would have been crushed right there.

Jiraiya is powerful, but sasuke is also powerful it will be with extreme diff jiraiya wins.

When did Sasuke's susano be that strong, dude durring the five kage summon he would have been completely destroyed, the only reason he survived was because of Gaara stopped Raikage, or else he would have been dead, even with susano and Amaterasu.

You are talking like Sasuke is not some kind of genius (which he is, stated by some of the most powerfull ninjas in Naruto world), if Jiraiya can outsmart him - tbh Sasuke proved to be at least on the same intelligence level as J-man. Besides, i saw Sasuke using more advanced strategies in his battles than J-man did. Despite being so young and having less exp in fighting terms in comparison with J-man that's a huge + in my book.

And do not talk about EMS Susanoo like it is mere MS Susano ok? There has to be a big difference, so the point about melting / dodging Susano projectiles are kind of ignorant. And even if he can dodge that (MS) arrow, what about dodging Amaterasu? He's not on raikage speed lvl, is he.
I dont know where some1 said His Oodama rasengan can vaporize whole mountain, but anyway it's not even important, we never saw that happening did we?
If u say that some of us overrate Susano, i'm gonna say u overrate his SM speed. Granted he is faster than Danzou / Kakashi, but in the end we won't get any proof from the Kishi that he can dodge EMS Susano projectile (which has to be faster/stronger/blabla)
I'm not a major sas-fan-boy, I was just merely irritated by your ignorant and j-man worshiping post.
Btw i loved J-man as long he stomped the earth.

 

[Ultimatevirus]

lol.... you restricted everything

 

[ShikamaruNara94]

lol.... you restricted everything

Thats because people would just say 'Sasuke uses his amaterasu or tsukuyomi and jiraiya is dead' or 'Jiraiya uses the frog genjutsu and sasuke is dead'. It's not really a fight at all, just who can use their one hit KO first, which is sasuke.

 

[Masha]

I love Sasuke