Jiraiya vs Hebi Sasuke

[Apêx1]

I see you're point about the chidori manipulation but I don't think its a good idea to demonstrate raiton sword's sharpness with EMS Sasuke feats.

I don't see why you are still arguing. Unless it is being covered with some form of Enton, then I fail to see your point. You seem to be desperate for an argument, stop this. If he can do chidori spear with his bear hand, and he can do raiton enhanced kusanagi swords. Then add 1+2 and you get a ranged raiton enhanced kusanagi.

 

[eagle8]

jiraiya wins low diff.

 

[Brooks]

The OP never stated Jiraiya starts in Sennin Mōdo...did he?

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If not....then Sasuke beats him.

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[shelke]

Daym. I always thought he did it with v2 since I thought it would be unlikely he could accomplish such a thing with his base body flicker. DatSasuke. I don't know about him edging out v1 Ay, I simply think he is more agile and has quicker striking speed.

Yup it was his base form:

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Check out Deidara and his dragon's size:

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Now look at the size of the explosion. Sasuke evaded all of it by exiting right of the Panel:

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As you can see, the panel doesn't show all of the explosion radius. A bit of it is still expanding on the right side.

There are others with Deidara as well:

Sasuke is standing right under Deiadar:

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Deidara has no clue when Sasuke appeared behind him. His body-flicker completely eludes the eye-sight:

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I believe he slightly edges out Ae, as he dodged V1 Bee easily as well with 3T. His strike speed is godly:

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Sasuke and his team appear to be as about half the size of the prisoner's arm:

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and then Sasuke suddenly appears behind him while cutting his chest open and both Karin and Suigetsu now seem a little smaller than Sasuke's head. He covered such a distance in a blink of an eye.

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He has made Four Slashes within that Lightening Fast Speed Blitz. And people say Tobirama's reaction rates are better. He is not even using Sharingan here.

 

[makosheva7]

I don't see why you are still arguing. Unless it is being covered with some form of Enton, then I fail to see your point. You seem to be desperate for an argument, stop this. If he can do chidori spear with his bear hand, and he can do raiton enhanced kusanagi swords. Then add 1+2 and you get a ranged raiton enhanced kusanagi.

desperate for an argument? Far from it dude. I'm literally just voicing my opinion haha.

 

[makosheva7]

I don't see why you are still arguing. Unless it is being covered with some form of Enton, then I fail to see your point. You seem to be desperate for an argument, stop this. If he can do chidori spear with his bear hand, and he can do raiton enhanced kusanagi swords. Then add 1+2 and you get a ranged raiton enhanced kusanagi.

desperate for an argument? Far from it dude. I'm literally just voicing my opinion haha.

 

[WreckRoll]

My thoughts on Base Jiraiya:

Scenario I:

Since summonings are restricted I'd say Sasuke wins high-diff just because he's faster.

But if there are shadows being made by the Sun (it's a sunny day at this location) then I think Jiraiya can survive long enough using Needle Jizo to use his Shadow Manipulation Technique at short range (assuming Sasuke is trying to get through his Needle Jizo with a Chidori) and momentarily confused Jiraiya can use a whole slew of Jutsu to defeat Sasuke so mid-diff Jiraiya.

So on average this scenario goes Jiraiya's way high-diff

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Scenario II:

If Hebi Sasuke had complete control and respect of Manda then I'd say this goes in Sasuke's favor but I don't think he does, which means Hebi Sasuke would have to use genjutsu on Manda to control him which uses chakra by itself. Having plenty of toad summons in his arsenal that are loyal to him, Jiraiya doesn't have to expend chakra whilst their already summoned (does expend chakra by summoning). If Jiraiya can summon Gamabunta and at least two more giant toads and I can see them dealing with a controlled Manda (plus I feel Jiraiya at this point has had plenty of experience with Oro's snake, and Oro has mastered using them so I think he'll be able to handle a less experienced "snake-wielder" if you will).

In terms of Kirin on such a sunny cloudless day there's no way Sasuke would even be able to use it, as without clouds he wouldn't be able to heat them up to create lightning (feel free to tell me if this point is way off base).

If he IS able to use Kirin I don't see Jiraiya surviving as he doesn't have a good enough defense to deal with that much power, so Hebi Sasuke high diff in that case.

In this scenario Jiraiya can also use Toad Mouth Bind to catch Sasuke, and where Sasuke would have no way of escaping because at this point he didn't have Amaterasu.

So in this scenario on average Jiraiya high-diff, and that's being generous to Sasukes resilience.

P.S. Saying Hebi Sasuke can take down SM Jiraiya is pretty bogus IMO.... he can just use demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant (sound genjutsu > visual genjutsu) .. so SM Jiraiya low-diff (plus he's got a rasengan that can level a mountain)

what's with all these scenarios ?