Jiraiya one shotted two different Akatsuki members - stop underrating

[Omnibus1]

I think swamp of the underworld would play a huge factor against itachi.

 

[Wakoo]

jaraiya

 

[~Dream~]

Hmmm, forget about Logic he just like d*ck riding blind people. Lol jk, But I don't see Jariya passing Sasuno'o maybe Amaratsu but Sasuno'o I think would demolish him just because of the Yata Mirrow

 

[Unbiased]

the attributes and Proprieties that can include the form and fken shape some may take it diff others may not that doesnt make a lier you idiot.

get your facts right before you call soemone a lier you sound like a 7 year old

yes it saids it has no more but that doesnt mean it cant take form you get what im trying to say?

No I don't get what your saying because the databook says the yata mirror is without form. Databook > your opinion.

If someone says the moon is white and you say the moon is probably white, that's lying about what someone said. In this case itachi said it was probably going to be the same outcome even with backup, not its the same outcome even with backup as you said. May allah bless you.

 

[HiddenSound]

Yes, I agree. Jiraiya has the potential to beat Itachi. I can't believe some Itachi fanboys even doubt his own words.

 

[Prince Charles]

No I don't get what your saying because the databook says the yata mirror is without form. Databook > your opinion.

If someone says the moon is white and you say the moon is probably white, that's lying about what someone said. In this case itachi said it was probably going to be the same outcome even with backup, not its the same outcome even with backup as you said. May allah bless you.

sigh.. you dont get what im trying to say.

i know it doesnt have form but that doesnt mean it cant TAKE FORM

 

[TenTen Fanbase]

they are equal.

Kishi words > your words

 

[Naruto505]

I will just post my thoughts from one of my previous threads:

Kishi made it painfully obvious that these two Kage-level fighters are equals. Yet a lot of people choose, on purpose or not, to underestimate Jiraiya when conversations regarding these two inevitable occur. I think fanboys aside; a lot of it has to do with the whole out of sight, out of mind mentality which isn’t unusual with all the awesome fights we have witnessed after Jiraiya’s death however the facts remain.

Databook scores: 35, 5 vs 35, 5.

They share the number one spot with the exact same score. They excel at each other’s weaknesses while they are also able to master the ability to shield their individual weaknesses e.g. by either entering special modes or by simply adapting their strategy accordingly. In essence they can both beat each other and most likely, most times, it would come down to minor details which would’ve otherwise been irrelevant (condition, surprise aspect, killing intent, etc). Kishi > speculation.

Itachi and Kisame’s infamous meeting with Jiraiya:

Kisame, one of the legendary swordsmen, directly admitted inferiority to Jiraiya, while Itachi claimed that he could only draw with him. These words were stated in the manga.To those who would argue that Itachi wouldn’t hurt anybody from Konoha, well, answer these questions:

Why did Itachi order Kakashi’s murder? Why did Itachi and Kisame go after Naruto? Why didn’t Itachi prevent Kisame from chopping off Naruto’s leg? Last I checked Itachi wasn’t a psychic, so until those questioned are answered nobody can trash the scan.Itachi feared he couldn't get to Sasuke, in one piece, if he engaged in an all out war with him.

Why Itachi can’t just one-shot him every time:

Besides the databook (and various statements made throughout the manga, e.g. Pain stating that Jiraiya could have won their epic battle), I will also like to point out that Jiraiya is an efficient counter fighter. His entire fighting style revolves around him being able to think on the spot, with his humongous /versatile arsenal, and successfully counter his opponent(s). This means that he won’t fight two different fighters the same, and he will specifically design his game plan around his opponent’s strength/weaknesses i.e. he will break down Itachi and realize that he should be worried about Itachi’s genjutsu. He would keep the battle long range, avoid eye contact, and last but not least summon toads and/or Kage bunshins which would raise his odds considerable e.g. Itachi would be hesitant to cast Tsukuyomi when he sees several clones in front of him, of course due to his poor chakra/health.

As I said, we have witnessed Jiraiya’s unique fighting style in a lot of different scenarios. He deduced Konan’s weakness in mere seconds and disposed of her like she was pure fodder. Which we know is false since she technically killed the most invincible man on the planet. He also knows when he is outmatched and when to actually revise your plan. Against the six path of pain he figured out the fact that he needed to separate them and actually meet them one-on –one, which is brilliant. He also realized that one of the paths could turn “invisible” so he decided to use a barrier that is able to detect movement. This again indicates, that Jiraiya can’t be caught with his pants down… unless in a bath house.

Itachi = Jiraiya

++rep

 

[kral]

sigh.. you dont get what im trying to say.

i know it doesnt have form but that doesnt mean it cant TAKE FORM

Page 16 son of Odin's post. Go read n reply n stop ignoring it

 

[Prince Charles]

Page 16 son of Odin's post. Go read n reply n stop ignoring it

how am i ignoring it?

 

[Unbiased]

sigh.. you dont get what im trying to say.

i know it doesnt have form but that doesnt mean it cant TAKE FORM

If something doesn't have form then how does it take form?

 

[Kira was Righteous]

He should not be underestimated

The amount of damage he did to Pain with no information is better then 99% of people could have done imo and yeah he did own konan fairly easily however i dont think she was really trying my opinion

 

[Unbiased]

The databook says the yata mirror is without form. With that being said, its evident that it changes its properties to negate any attack not change its form since that does not exist. Thanks for your help prince charles by posting that page, that ultimately ruined your argument about it changing its form.

 

[Prince Charles]

If something doesn't have form then how does it take form?

im pretty sure chakra doesnt have form?

sussano is just chakra molded INTO A FORM

does that prove my case?

sussano starts out as just chakra then gains a warrior like form

 

[Unbiased]

im pretty sure chakra doesnt have form?

sussano is just chakra molded INTO A FORM

does that prove my case?

sussano starts out as just chakra then gains a warrior like form

Were not talking about susanoo, were talking about the yata mirror which is not apart of susanoo as seen with sasuke's and madaras susanoo.

 

[TrueNarutoFan3000]

I know that I'm not well known on the base so you might not take into account to what I have to say but heres my unbiased views regarding some of the posts I saw. His strength was so great that even powerful members of Akatsuki either were easily subdued like Konan while others like Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshigaki, a master of the Sharingan and former member of the Seven Mist Swordsmen respectively, opted not to face him in battle, fearing that the very best they could do together against Jiraiya would end in a stalemate. Kisame even noted that he was no match for Jiraiya saying he was "on a whole other level." Itachi stated that even if they had reinforcements, the result would be no different. Minato Namikaze also acknowledged his master's power, skills, and mindset. Even Nagato, a former student of his, was nearly defeated despite outnumbering Jiraiya, causing the younger opponent to marvel Jiraiya's abilities, noting that he could have been beaten by Jiraiya had he had prior knowledge of his "secret

 

[TrueNarutoFan3000]

It is safe to say Itachi meant stalemate due to the of use of his Sharingan from the previous MOLESTATION of Kakashi. You cannot take away Itachi's and Jiraiya's knowledge on each other. Knowledge on the opponent is the key to VICTORY. Jiraiya has more knowledge on Itachi so assuming what the manga said "Jiraiya having prior knowledge on an enemy is likely to win as seen with what he did to Konan. Jiraiya was often described as a perfectionist. He had the ability to improvise or expand the limit of a techniques to the point where even an academic or E-rank techniques could make him an extremely formidable opponent.

 

[FlareBlitz]

jaraiya is no pushover

 

[Prince Charles]

Were not talking about susanoo, were talking about the yata mirror which is not apart of susanoo as seen with sasuke's and madaras susanoo.

im trying to prove my case through sussano

im giving examples :sy:

yes its a fact yata mirror doesnt have a form but that doesnt mean it cant take form.

same thing with chakra

chakra doesnt have form but it you can give it form like sussano.

this proves im more likely right.

its a fact chakra doesnt have a form, but thats doesnt mean YOU CANT GIVE IT FORM

 

[TrueNarutoFan3000]

MY OPINION OR IN OTHER WORDS MANGA'S DATABOOK MAKES THEM EQUAL. Equal on paper does not translate equal in a real fight. Look at Tsunade vs. a weakened Orochimaru but Jiraiya is different and should not be underestimated or underated. = IS =