ChakraOk, considering you got permission back in the day but never ended up progressing with your training, we are going to start a new.
To start, lets kick the basic stuff behind our backs. Tell me what, in Narutoverse, is the following:
- Chakra
- Shape Manipulation
- Nature Manipulation
- Ninjutsu
- Taijutsu
- Genjutsu
- Yang Nature
- Yin Nature
I'd like to begin with Yang. ^^Ok, so what teaching do you want to pursue? Yin or Yang?
So you're a Yin guy, eh? Lili's and Scorps' genjutsu influence flows through you already. I'm afraid you're beyond saving. We did all we could. U_UYou thought Scorps would be teaching you YY but it was I, Reborn. All you Yang bastards...Since Scorps didn't actually start you I can mold you how I want to.
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Sage of Yin...So you're a Yin guy, eh? Lili's and Scorps' genjutsu influence flows through you already. I'm afraid you're beyond saving. We did all we could. U_U
Sounds great! ^^
I have no questions for the time being. I had no idea the Hyuga's technique was actually a reference to YY, though.History Lesson
Yin and Yang, at least in respect to the Narutoverse and our RP, originate from the ancient Chinese philosophies and belief systems that first coined the actual names "Yin Yang" to represent two opposite poles. I have no doubt in my mind that there are likely other civilizations much older than the Chinese that possessed some form of belief in a dynamic metaphysical system of opposites similar to Yin Yang. However, for our purposes, due to the name and geographical respect of the canon we follow, Daoism is the origin of Yin-Yang. That being said I am going to give you a considerably watered down version of Yin-Yang as it relates to Daoism (which may be even more watered down if you don't trust my competency in the field to begin with) in order to understand how Nverse Yin-Yang and our RP adaptation works.
The first and probably only real diagram I have to talk about from Daoism is the Bagua which means "8 Symbols." You have undoubtedly seen the Bagua and heard the name "8 Symbols" before, if from no place else, from the Hyuga style taijutsu, Jyugen and the Uzumaki sealing technique. In Japanese they call it "Hakke", which from my best guess is from the "Ha" - 8 and the other romanji representing kanji/characters that mean "sign," "symbol," or "trigram." Nevertheless it all comes from the Bagua. If you need a refresher go to the linkYou must be registered for see linksand look. If you go down to the trivia you'll even see the reference to Bagua and Yin-Yang. Another fun fact, Baguazhang (8 Trigrams Palm) is the actual style Gentle Fist is based off. You can find that in the wiki and even look up the way actual Baguazhang works. That's beside the point.
The specific rendition of the Bagua we're going to look at is "Fuxi - Earlier Heaven" diagram. I'm partial to this diagram over the "King Wen" Diagram. Nevertheless, I will explain first to you each of the the 8 trigrams and their respective qualities to better clue you in on the relationship to the existing abilities in Nverse and NBRP YY. Once we get past the technical bull I'll take you through RP YY processes and techniques. That being said, I'll stop now to let you ask any questions you may have about anything I said or in general.
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Alright we're starting over since I have a different method of approach to this than Scorps. The only thing that has happened thus far that will remain consistent under me is the concept of the big tree and reversal of it since Scorps and I worked on that together. I will explain to you where we are going to be heading.
Canonically we've heard of the proportion or ratio of white to black chakra in regard to construction to the TBB. This concept was taken and used for YY on NB simply to say that: Yin Release possess Greater Yin:Lesser Yang ratio and pure physical essence is reverse. we use these ratios due to the fact it is literally impossible to remove Yang from Yin and Yin from Yang. Reasons:
Daoist canon states there is never light without darkness for you need to understand darkness to know of light. Essentially meaning the two are also defined by what they are not and thus acknowledge their polar opposites.
Narutoverse canon states that ninjutsu, in whatever form it takes, is a combination of spiritual and physical chakra working synchronously. Without one half of this puzzle you cannot create ninjutsu. All three subfields of basic ninjutsu (genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu) utilize spiritual and physical energies. Nin was just spelled out so I won't repeat it. Gen is spiritual in nature but we call it Yin release. However the utilization of chakra and the actual imposition of one's chakra on another is a physical manifestation, which means it does possess a physical (Yang) trait. Taijutsu is physical in nature and is more akin to Yang however there is a mental component to martial arts as well. Chakra use is apparent in taijutsu when you get into things like the gates or special brands of taijutsu like Gentle Fist. However stamina, in any sense, is physical and mental, fighting smart is mental/spiritual. Gentle fist does not rely on physique at all it relies on internal pressure and chakra point manipulation. So everything possess these two halves in Naruto.
So, what are we doing with ratios? Well, throughout the training I'll be taking you through a process where you'll be gathering your chakra in such a manner as to say Greater-Yin:Lesser-Yang or Greater-Yang:Lesser-Yin depending on whatever style you're learning. That is what allows us to extract the "root" in a sense of Yin and Yang. The purest spiritual chakra is where physical chakra appears just enough to distinguish the former as spiritual. This will be the same for physical chakra but in reverse. When we get to Yin-Yang Techniques we will be separating our potent, pure forms of Yin and Yang and then combining them once again for a ridiculously high grade hax mode techniques. The difference between Yin-Yang techniques and other ninjutsu is that with the latter neither Yin nor Yang are at their greatest potential.
Don't worry, we're not going to be doing any actual math, the concept is the only important thing. Also I'll explain to you the abilities you receive with Yin and Yang as you progress.
You're a piece of garbage elitist so you want to start with Yang first so we'll start there. In spite of my Sage title, I'm adept in both Yin and Yang with my understanding, capabilities, and preference. I simply hate people who think either is superior. I should let Chris teach you but I won't give you over to him so you can speak trash about Yin together.
I think I am following the concept of ratios for Yin or Yang techniques; you'll be basically moulding your chakra with a specific ratio in mind to further enhance either the physical or mental aspects of it, correct?I don't feel like retyping this so
Er...>.> <.<...y-yang. *hides*Yep, now I forget which you wanted to do first; Yin or Yang?
Crystal clear. ^^Before getting into the tooth and nail of everything, let's discuss the abilities of the skill first and what to expect.
Specialties: At this point in time you have no specialty because you have yet to complete anything. However prior to the rule being put in place that limits one specialty per user; you, Gobi, Xylon, Muten Akira, Scorps, LoK, and myself (shouldn't be missing anybody) possess access to both Yin and Yang specialty perks as your permissions/attainment of the ability itself prior to the new rule change has been allowed as exception. However, ordinarily you'd pick one specialty either at the end of your training in one area or upon completing Yin and Yang (should you achieve permission for both). I'm sure most people would choose the first of the two, however, there is no garuntee that somebody who gets Yin and/or Yang permission will get Yin-Yang permission or the other of the two abilities. That being said this is moot to you so we will disregard the choosing aspect of this.
Elemental Manipulation: You currently possess the ability to manipulate multiple natures at once, so dual elemental techniques that may present a lapse in timeframe can performed in the same timeframe. This is not saying you use two techniques at once this is saying you get multi elemental construction and execution. You do not, however, have the ability to use two natures with a single hand seal as of yet. That comes upon completing Yin-Yang Release. So, to re-cap, I'm treating you as somebody who only has Yang right now. Having either Yin or Yang gives you multi elemental manipulation but not the added perk of using two natures with one hand sign.
Sensory: Only after you've completed Yin-Yang Release.
Chakra Efficiency: Only after you've completed Yin-Yang Release.
Yang Release Perks: Only after you've completed Yang
Clear?
Before I start on the Narutoverse Yang, it's very important to understand the origins of Yin Yang and how Naruto adapted this. Naruto's Yin and Yang stems from traditional Japanese religion/cosmology called Onmyodo, which means 'The Way of Yin and Yang', which is based on a mix of Buddhism, Taoism, and Shintoism. Onmyodo took the occultlism and later the use of various gods and spirits from Shintoism, and the concept of wu xing, or 5 elements, and Yin-Yang from Taoism, and the magical elements of Buddhism so we'll have to cover taoism in some way to understand these techniques. An important artifact and book called the Tao te Ching, or Daode Jing, gives an insight on Yin and Yang and how it started.
"Tao gives birth to One
One gives birth to Two,
The Two gives birth to Three,
The Three gives birth to the Five
The Five gives birth to all universal things.
All universal things shoulder the Yin and embrace the Yang.
The Yin and Yang mingle and mix with each other to beget the harmony"
The above is a verse from the Tao te Ching explaining the history of Yin and Yang. Since this probably sounds very vague, I'll explain. In the beginning, there was only Wuji/Wu Chi, or Nothingness, the Great Void, represented by an empty circle. From the nothingness came Yin and Yang, the feminine and masculine energies. These two energies mix and create the 5 elements. These 5 elements when mixed with Yin and Yang create the 10, 000 things/universal things, which is just a cool way of saying everything. Through various imbalances of Yin and Yang energies, various things come into existence. Yin is represented by the color black and is slow, yielding, cold, wet and passive, the 'shady side' as it name means while Yang is represented by white and is fast, solid, hot, dry and active, or the 'sunny side' as it's name means. The mixture of these to form Yin Yang is called the Taijitu. This is just a short recap. In relation to the Bagua, Yin is represented in this aspect by broken lines while Yang is represented by solid lines.
Note that I said imbalances - though you may have Yin or Yang separately, neither is completely devoid of the other. Neither Yin nor Yang are absolute. Nothing is completely Yin or completely Yang. Each aspect contains the beginning point for the other aspect. Because this balance can be skewed, four possible imbalances exist. These are called Greater Yang, Greater Yin, Lesser Yang, and Lesser Yin. These imbalances can be paired logically - Greater Yang would contribute to Lesser Yin also being present. These imbalances act on the Bagua, or the 8 trigrams. Yes, the Hyuga have a series of jutsu named after the 8 Trigrams, which occasionally appear in the artwork for their Gentle Fist jutsu. The 8 Trigrams can also be made to form 64 Hexagrams, each related to a different aspect, trait, and more though we won't go that deep.
The 8 Trigrams each fall into one of the 4 imbalances, 2 each. As mentioned above, Yang is represented by solid lines while Yin with broken lines. This also extends to the 4 Imbalances: Greater Yang is represented by two solid lines above one another , like this = . Greater Yin is represented by two sets of broken lines, like this == . Lesser Yang is represented by a broken line above a solid line while Lesser Yin is represented by a broken line under a solid line. By the additional of a third line to the top of these imbalances, you have a visual representation of the Trigrams, as shown in the pic below in the spoiler and then it again when Neji uses the Trigrams.
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Now that we have the actual trigrams out of the way, it's time to actually connect the Taoism version with the Naruto one and see how this all makes sense. As you see, Yang is physical energy in the series, life energy, vitality and has the ability to breath life into form. It relates to the body specifically, having the ability to make it more solid and rigid, faster, overwhelming life and physical energy, becoming very masculine through the use of it, which relates directly to Yang's masculine nature. Yang's ability to augment the body can be seen as a way to highlight it's masculine nature. [/Spoiler]
I won't ask you to do the Yang assignment like I did with Gobi but this is a jumping point to start with
Gonna add bits from Gobi training so I won't have to type it twice or add unneeded parts again.
The verse was really dope. Alright, I think I followed your explanation and understood it.Before I start on the Narutoverse Yang, it's very important to understand the origins of Yin Yang and how Naruto adapted this. Naruto's Yin and Yang stems from traditional Japanese religion/cosmology called Onmyodo, which means 'The Way of Yin and Yang', which is based on a mix of Buddhism, Taoism, and Shintoism. Onmyodo took the occultlism and later the use of various gods and spirits from Shintoism, and the concept of wu xing, or 5 elements, and Yin-Yang from Taoism, and the magical elements of Buddhism so we'll have to cover taoism in some way to understand these techniques. An important artifact and book called the Tao te Ching, or Daode Jing, gives an insight on Yin and Yang and how it started.
"Tao gives birth to One
One gives birth to Two,
The Two gives birth to Three,
The Three gives birth to the Five
The Five gives birth to all universal things.
All universal things shoulder the Yin and embrace the Yang.
The Yin and Yang mingle and mix with each other to beget the harmony"
The above is a verse from the Tao te Ching explaining the history of Yin and Yang. Since this probably sounds very vague, I'll explain. In the beginning, there was only Wuji/Wu Chi, or Nothingness, the Great Void, represented by an empty circle. From the nothingness came Yin and Yang, the feminine and masculine energies. These two energies mix and create the 5 elements. These 5 elements when mixed with Yin and Yang create the 10, 000 things/universal things, which is just a cool way of saying everything. Through various imbalances of Yin and Yang energies, various things come into existence. Yin is represented by the color black and is slow, yielding, cold, wet and passive, the 'shady side' as it name means while Yang is represented by white and is fast, solid, hot, dry and active, or the 'sunny side' as it's name means. The mixture of these to form Yin Yang is called the Taijitu. This is just a short recap. In relation to the Bagua, Yin is represented in this aspect by broken lines while Yang is represented by solid lines.
Note that I said imbalances - though you may have Yin or Yang separately, neither is completely devoid of the other. Neither Yin nor Yang are absolute. Nothing is completely Yin or completely Yang. Each aspect contains the beginning point for the other aspect. Because this balance can be skewed, four possible imbalances exist. These are called Greater Yang, Greater Yin, Lesser Yang, and Lesser Yin. These imbalances can be paired logically - Greater Yang would contribute to Lesser Yin also being present. These imbalances act on the Bagua, or the 8 trigrams. Yes, the Hyuga have a series of jutsu named after the 8 Trigrams, which occasionally appear in the artwork for their Gentle Fist jutsu. The 8 Trigrams can also be made to form 64 Hexagrams, each related to a different aspect, trait, and more though we won't go that deep.
The 8 Trigrams each fall into one of the 4 imbalances, 2 each. As mentioned above, Yang is represented by solid lines while Yin with broken lines. This also extends to the 4 Imbalances: Greater Yang is represented by two solid lines above one another , like this = . Greater Yin is represented by two sets of broken lines, like this == . Lesser Yang is represented by a broken line above a solid line while Lesser Yin is represented by a broken line under a solid line. By the additional of a third line to the top of these imbalances, you have a visual representation of the Trigrams, as shown in the pic below in the spoiler and then it again when Neji uses the Trigrams.
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Now that we have the actual trigrams out of the way, it's time to actually connect the Taoism version with the Naruto one and see how this all makes sense. As you see, Yang is physical energy in the series, life energy, vitality and has the ability to breath life into form. It relates to the body specifically, having the ability to make it more solid and rigid, faster, overwhelming life and physical energy, becoming very masculine through the use of it, which relates directly to Yang's masculine nature. Yang's ability to augment the body can be seen as a way to highlight it's masculine nature. [/Spoiler]
I won't ask you to do the Yang assignment like I did with Gobi but this is a jumping point to start with