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Why do people think Jiraiya is so damn slow... like.. when has he EVER been slow. He managed to be winning against 5 paths of Pein before one showed up by surprise.. I doubt if the Raikage could take on 3.

Not a fanboy.. but Jman is too rounded to lose to the Riakages one sided fighting style - Lightning armor punch/kick.
 

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and i don't see Jiraya biting his thumb, making 5 hand seals, slamming hand on the ground, summoning Bunta, making hand seals for fire jutsu and launching it before A activates his armor and takes Jiraya's head out of him ;)
Ma and pa will be there to back him up while he does this and yh you still havent countered ma and pa genjustu
 

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Why do people think Jiraiya is so damn slow... like.. when has he EVER been slow. He managed to be winning against 5 paths of Pein before one showed up by surprise.. I doubt if the Raikage could take on 3.

Not a fanboy.. but Jman is too rounded to lose to the Riakages one sided fighting style - Lightning armor punch/kick.
Ma and pa will be there to back him up while he does this and yh you still havent countered ma and pa genjustu
He only did that when he was in Sm.

You both are making it sound like A is a cripple. Is he stuck in an swamp or something? How the hell is J-man base form is going to get into SM? When A can speed blitz at an moments notice. What is the lenght of the battle field 5 miles? How long does it take J-man to get into SM? It took 3 freaking chapters I think and maybe 2 episodes for him to get into that form.
 

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Why do people think Jiraiya is so damn slow... like.. when has he EVER been slow. He managed to be winning against 5 paths of Pein before one showed up by surprise.. I doubt if the Raikage could take on 3.

Not a fanboy.. but Jman is too rounded to lose to the Riakages one sided fighting style - Lightning armor punch/kick.
he needed SM and Ma and Pa's genjutsu to beat only 3 paths, and he REALLY wasn't winning against 5 paths, he was getting owned by 3 of them

and it isn't about Jiraya being slow, he isn't it's the opposite, A is too fast
Ma and pa will be there to back him up while he does this and yh you still havent countered ma and pa genjustu
oh, right, i didn't counter Ma and Pa which TOO NEED TO BE SUMMONED and which need like 5 MINUTES to match their voices? sry bout that
 

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he needed SM and Ma and Pa's genjutsu to beat only 3 paths, and he REALLY wasn't winning against 5 paths, he was getting owned by 3 of them

and it isn't about Jiraya being slow, he isn't it's the opposite, A is too fast


oh, right, i didn't counter Ma and Pa which TOO NEED TO BE SUMMONED and which need like 5 MINUTES to match their voices? sry bout that
They think J-man Sm is instant. :shrug:
 

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and i don't see Jiraya biting his thumb, making 5 hand seals, slamming hand on the ground, summoning Bunta, making hand seals for fire jutsu and launching it before A activates his armor and takes Jiraya's head out of him ;)
You make it seem like Jiraiya is some helpless fodder and A is goku Lol...

He was able to go Sm vs Pain (A tougher opponent) I'm sure he can find a way against anyone. Summon chief toad and go inside his belly,Earth style : under world swamp, Barrier techniques,Toud mouth Bind?

Then come out SM and smack the Raikage around silly
 

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He only did that when he was in Sm.

You both are making it sound like A is a cripple. Is he stuck in an swamp or something? How the hell is J-man base form is going to get into SM? When A can speed blitz at an moments notice. What is the lenght of the battle field 5 miles? How long does it take J-man to get into SM? It took 3 freaking chapters I think and maybe 2 episodes for him to get into that form.
uhh he could easily use the throat of the toad armor or whatever it's called.. it protected him and Naruto from a gigantic blast of pure chakra that took out a shit ton of acres - vaporizing trees and even the ground around them. They took a direct hit and it didn't even effect his prison. The only thing that could penetrate it was an Ameratsu blast from Itachi - and A not only doesn't have ANY fire much less one as powerful as Ameratsu, but that material is a rubbery absorbent looking one. Even if it wasn't he could just anchor it to the ground where lightning would just go through into the ground and dissipate. Physical strength alone cannot penetrate that rubbery material. That's why I'm arguing he may not even need sagemode, he has too many justsu's and some are retardedly OP. Kisame thought he would have died and definitely would have, and his pure strength is easily comparable to the Raikages if not more.

If he needed sage mode, a jutsu like that would easily buy him enough time.

Any questions / complaints?
 
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You make it seem like Jiraiya is some helpless fodder and A is goku Lol...

He was able to go Sm vs Pain (A tougher opponent) I'm sure he can find a way against anyone. Summon chief toad and go inside his belly,Earth style : under world swamp, Barrier techniques,Toud mouth Bind?

Then come out SM and smack the Raikage around silly
J-man goes into the frogs belly like what he did with Itachi and waits until sm is ready not that hard and if A wants to come in he's cokked
No one said J-man was fodder or dumb or helpless. This is just not a ideal fight for him.

He went into Sm facing one, (1), uno path at the time + summons. If 3rd generation A can cut the Hachibi's tentacles im sure either A can make a Summoning disappear EASY. So if J-man is dumb enough to hide in a toad that will just make him a easier target.
 

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uhh he could easily use the throat of the toad armor or whatever it's called.. it protected him and Naruto from a gigantic blast of pure chakra that took out a shit ton of acres - vaporizing trees and even the ground around them. They took a direct hit and it didn't even effect his prison. The only thing that could penetrate it was an Ameratsu blast from Itachi - and A not only doesn't have ANY fire much less one as powerful as Ameratsu, but that material is a rubbery absorbent looking one. Even if it wasn't he could just anchor it to the ground where lightning would just go through into the ground and dissipate. Physical strength alone cannot penetrate that rubbery material. That's why I'm arguing he may not even need sagemode, he has too many justsu's and some are retardedly OP. Kisame thought he would have died and definitely would have, and his pure strength is easily comparable to the Raikages if not more.

If he needed sage mode, a jutsu like that would easily buy him enough time.

Any questions / complaints?
So can it stop a person like A who is speed blitzing? I doubt it. If toad's mouth is like quick sand than A can travel over it. The faster you go the less likely your chances are of getting stuck in it. And that might of been just one demonstration of someone breaking through toads mouth it could be other ways.
 

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do you mind telling me how will J-man go into SM when he has to stay still? i mean, A is f*cking fast, it's not like he will wait for J-man to go into SM, i can easily tell you how A wins

A activates armor > A uses Rariatto > Jiraya dies



bolded: he can't keep up, it's that simple, i mean, Sasuke with SHARINGAN couldn't keep up

underlined: A has chakra level compared to BIJUU
jiraya was minatos mentor, im sure he knows a thing or two about speed

i can tell you guys for sure, raikage would first injure jiraya a lot, but eventually he would find a way to defeat him!!


just think of all the jutsu he knows, the way he trapped itachi and kisame in toad mouth that they had to do amaterasu to escape, and he sealed the amaterasu like it was a childs game!, this is jiraya we are talking about!, raikage is nothing.


not to mention jiraya is stronger in sage mode and faster
 

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So can it stop a person like A who is speed blitzing? I doubt it. If toad's mouth is like quick sand than A can travel over it. The faster you go the less likely your chances are of getting stuck in it. And that might of been just one demonstration of someone breaking through toads mouth it could be other ways.
The Toad mouth is hugeeeee. A can't fly and will have to land eventually when he is moving around. Btw the more you move in quick sand the quicker you sink so if you were Raikage A you'd have died a long time ago Lol...

No Ameterasu just happened to be able to burn through anything and Jman said it himself that no one's ever escaped it before.
 

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Ok I'll say this. The only way J-man can win this fight is by:

1. Sealing Raikage which he probably can. (He might can do this without Sm.)
2. Ma's and Pa's Genjustu.

But first he would have to get into SM which is no easy feat especally facing someone who is as fast as A. You have to slow him down somehow and more.

But in this fight his not in Sm at the start of the fight which puts him at the greatest disadvantage of speed and strength, not knowledge. You can have all the knowledge in the world and still lose because you can't back it up with physical prowess.
 

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The Toad mouth is hugeeeee. A can't fly and will have to land eventually when he is moving around. Btw the more you move in quick sand the quicker you sink so if you were Raikage A you'd have died a long time ago Lol...

No Ameterasu just happened to be able to burn through anything and Jman said it himself that no one's ever escaped it before.
It wasn't that huge...It might have seem that huge because Kisame and Itachi are slower than A, speed wise.
 

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No one said J-man was fodder or dumb or helpless. This is just not a ideal fight for him.

He went into Sm facing one, (1), uno path at the time + summons. If 3rd generation A can cut the Hachibi's tentacles im sure either A can make a Summoning disappear EASY. So if J-man is dumb enough to hide in a toad that will just make him a easier target.
Why are you making things up again.. I asked that before and you didn't answer lol.. Where does it show ANYWHERE in the entire series that the Raikage has any summons or knowledge of how to desummon, release, or seal any kind of entity or jutsu anywhere?

And as for him cutting off the 8 tails appendage, so what? They aren't that strong and are meant to grow back, Sasuke took out a leg with a single weakened Chidori, the weight of the tentacle alone sliced it in half...
That is the point of an octopus, to easily lose a limb so it can grow back.. lol..
Not to mention he used the power of lightning jutsu, which he wouldn't have against J mans toad throat jutsu.

Besides that is just 1 jutsu of a SHIT load J man has at his arsenal, he went all around the world and learned/got info about all sorts of jutsus and shtuff. He simply could not be defeated by A, A doesn't have the required tools to do so.
 

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Edit: the toad mouth jutsu is in fact immune to virtually any physical attack seeing as how it's pretty much rubbery and will absorb a punch like a mofo - the more you struggle the more it tried to suck you in.. so there really isn't any way A could defeat that single jutsu, and as I've been saying that is merely one of his many.
 

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Minato could throw multiple kunai before A prepared his armor and launched at him, Jiraiya will form two seals for swamp of the underworld that would sink Raikage into the abyss...
 
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