Its Official Tobirama > Minato

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After the latest chapter it is now official that Tobirama beats Minato. In this thread I will prove that Tobirama is now able to beat minato.


First Point: Flying Thunder God technique

After last chapter its confirmed that Tobirama's Flying thunder God is equal to Minato's... For those that disagree here is why: The only difference between Minato's FTG and Tobirama's FTG is the fact that Minato has hundreds of Kunai that he marks with his seal where as Tobirama physically marks things with contact. So, to sum it all up!

Both users require marks its just Minato puts his marks on Kunai. With these Kunai Minato is able to use FTG as an evasive/counter attacking form but there is nothing stopping Tobirama from doing the same.

Tobirama reaction time is faster than Minato

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Counter for FTG:


Suiton Ninjutsu:

It's been hyped and confirmed that Tobirama is one of the best Suiton users in the show and he has the ability to create water from nothing just like Kisame. With this ability Tobirama can use Suiton to his advantage to effectively negate FTG Kunai by blocking them entirely with Suiton water barrier:

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Also he has the ability to make FTG completely useless for Minato in the event the entire battlefield is Water.

Why you may ask? Here is why

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As you can see in this picture above Minato using his Kunai to mark his surrounding area and attack accordingly. But with suiton users there main advantage is turning the battleground into water.

Much like Tobirama did vs Hiruzen

In essence depending on how Much Water is needed. Tobirama could turn the battlefield into an all water terrain like this:

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^^ In a situation like that.. Minato teleporting to a kunai would potentially put him underwater or teleport him to floating FTG Kunai.. Either way Tobirama is at a huge advantage and Minato's FTG is utterly useless.



Tobirama Offensive Abilities:


Tobirama Offensive capabilities are truly above Minato's considering Minato only offensive weapons are Rasengan, Kunai, and Suicide Reaper death.

Tobirama has FTG Slash which is a straight foward flicker that was used to kill Izuna(Madara's Equal)

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With this it means he can offensively FTG Strike Minato without having him tagged.


Edo Tensei:

Lastly, although Tobirama's edo tensei is not as strong as Kabuto or Orochimaru. The purpose of his Edo tensei can still be deadly rather it be an elite ninja or a fodder ninja.

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With his edo tensei.. Tobirama could summon Edos from his past and use them as a means to setup for infinitely explosions.


In conclusion.. Tobirama overall defeats Minato with or without FTG.
 
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tobirama is a boss
both minato and tobirama are my favorites

but you can't say tobirama >>> minato ............ for sure
 
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I'm almost certain that Tobirama still has to mark his opponent to use his slash attack. There was no indication that he doesn't have to mark his opponent. I do think Minato would have hard time with Tobirama.

I have a theory that Tobirama can mark one thing at a time. I'm not sure though as I haven't researched the subject.
 

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I don´t know if Tobirama is stronger than Minato since they have both shown to be mega beasts from hell.It could go either way in my opinion but one thing does come to mind.

Is it me or does Hiruzen look like the fodder in the Hokages group? You see Hashirama(and shinobi still get shocked in awe when they see the extent of his powers,facing Edo-Rinne-Mokuton Madara ALONE)...Then you see Minato and Tobirama(using S/T jutsu in insane ways) teaming up against Juubito to create openings for Naruto and Sasuke to hit him (as if it is easy right?)....And then there´s Hiruzen...using his um...Shuriken clone Jutsu?...I mean MAYBE just maybe he will show something but i highly doubt it at this point.
 

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Mianto doesnt only mark kunai's, he mark object like Tobirama does. During Minato and Obito, he marked Obito bare hands, Minato vs AY and Bee, he marked Bee, bare hands. Minato just coipied Tobirama and advanced his justu so Minato ftg > Tobirama FTG. Also Mianto's base speed > Tobirama base speed.

So I dont think Tobirama > Minato
 

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Why can't they just be equals or strong in their own way? -__-

btw, why does the ranking even matter?. everyone will have his/her favourite character(s) anyway
 
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