Itachi's Strength

[Deidara Akatsuki]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

yea but he can't avoid tsukoyomi and itachi's genjutsus

Exactly.

Just to remind everyone, that when itachi fought,

Deidara, Kakashi,and Orochimaru.

He literally ended them ALL in the first few seconds.

Orochimaru managed to kill the 3rd Hokage ( was known to be the strongest in the history )

And if Itachi defeats Oro in the 1st minute. What does that say what Itachi can do to all the others.


Itachi would have more Trouble with JIRAIYA then he would with ANY of the past 4 hokages.

That is only because i believe Jiraiya's sage mode would render his tsukyonmi useless because of the chakra instability.

I know your gonna say Minato would win, because he's too quick.
, well... not really. Itachi only has to point his finger, or just disperse into crows so he cant be hit.

Eitherway, once anyone is hit with 3 days of Pure intense pain. They're gonna be wobly.

And theres no reason why Itachi couldnt just do it straight away as soon as its ended. and give them another hellacious experience.

The rule's simple. Never fight against a sharinghan user 1v1 as you will not win.

Jiraiya of all people told us this, and something tells me he wasnt lieing.

 

[Deidara Akatsuki]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

what?! itachi could not beat minato or hashirama, lets be honest. im sure minato has owned ninjas way stronger or about equall strength to itatchi (madara and raikage)

and we all know what hashirama did to madara too. itachi could probably beat tobirama and tsunade. but i can't see him beatin hiruzen or hashirama and really not minato.

reasons- minato: could easily get away from susanoo and drag it out to the point where itachi's chakara is drained, minato (imo) was far smarter and more experienced then itachi. i doubt he would even get caught in tskuyomi or any genjutsu. he can definatly get away from susanoo and amatarasu with ease. ftg is too much for itachi.

hashirama: fought and defeated one of the greatest uchiha's, madara (as did minato). madara had ems (which we still don't know the full extent of) and was far greater than itatchi at this point. hashirama is not as fast as minato so itachi would have more of a chance against him but mokuton, bijuu control, beating ems madara, etc. seem like they overweigh itachi.

hiruzen: hiruzen had a wide range of jutsu, was said to master all non-kg jutsu in the leaf. he took on iwr hashirama and tobirama and orochimaru when he was far out of his prime. itachi's occular power have more of a chance to hit hiruzen imo but im not sure if he could beat him, seems like a tie almost but im still leaning toward hiruzen.

at this point, im not sure he could beat tobirama sence he had great water style jutsu, iwr and space-time jutsu aswell.... idk about this one though. i do think itachi can beat tsunade though, her brute force and primarily close range combat seem like a disadvantage to me although she is a great med-ninja. who knows.

this is all just my opinion and you all have your own opinions....

How can you say that. oro killed the 3rd. And itachi destroyed oro.

If the 3rd was so good, he woulda have been there to defeat the kyuubi or madara at least back when minato was fighting.

Itachi could even sense the 'uneasiness' in the air.

Hiruzen had to seen the kyuubi tearing shit up before he realised anything.

 

[Draegod]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

this obv is an Uchia Fanboi thread! lmao i guess this is a good thread to weed out the hardcore no manga reading fans who you cant tell nothing! haha

but non the less, this is you all's opinion..

 

[Brexten]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

I sign that. This thread is not even worth to post in if you say something against it you will get flamed to the death lamo ...

 

[ProdigyRokuX]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

How can you say that. oro killed the 3rd. And itachi destroyed oro.

If the 3rd was so good, he woulda have been there to defeat the kyuubi or madara at least back when minato was fighting.

Itachi could even sense the 'uneasiness' in the air.

Hiruzen had to seen the kyuubi tearing shit up before he realised anything.

i never once said in my thread hiruzen won his battle, i said he took them on, only reason he lost imo was because he was so far out of his prime but look at the fight he put up anyways. i know itatchi destroyed orochimaru but he didnt have to fight the hashirama and tobirama at the same time. he was already in susanoo by the time orochimaru came out, c'mon now.

remember, hiruzen couldnt get to the fox as minato placed a barrier around that area, and he didnt even realize madara was there at the time, madara only showed himself to minato at that time. minato got to the fox quicker than hiruzen ever could anyways

i noticed you only picked out hiruzen, why? do you feel minato hashirama and possibly even tobirama could beat itachi?

 

[DigitalMonster]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Honestly,only Hiruzen would be a good match-up against Itachi.
The databook indicated that Hiruzen has high points in genjutsu(possibly he can break most of it)

And stop hyping Hashirama and Minato.It's all meaningless really.
Neither of them had shown any good taijutsu,genjutsu and even strength feats.
Characters like Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Rock Lee, Part 1 Kakashi, Gaiden Kakashi, Kisame, Hinata and Neji would one shot both of them.

I don't think it's necessary anymore for Kishimoto to show more flashbacks of them.

And for those who thinks that Minato>Itachi,try making a realistic scenario where he isn't caught in genjutsu in the first place before you say 'Minato ass-rapes with FTG'. Just try.

 

[ProdigyRokuX]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Honestly,only Hiruzen would be a good match-up against Itachi.
The databook indicated that Hiruzen has high points in genjutsu(possibly he can break most of it)

And stop hyping Hashirama and Minato.It's all meaningless really.
Neither of them had shown any good taijutsu,genjutsu and even strength feats.
Characters like Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Rock Lee, Part 1 Kakashi, Gaiden Kakashi, Kisame, Hinata and Neji would one shot both of them.

I don't think it's necessary anymore for Kishimoto to show more flashbacks of them.

And for those who thinks that Minato>Itachi,try making a realistic scenario where he isn't caught in genjutsu in the first place before you say 'Minato ass-rapes with FTG'. Just try.

wow, stop hyping them because they have never shown any good tai or gen techniquies.... think about this, we ver rarely see them fight for 1 and 2, we rarely see itachi do anything outside of gen. you know, because you stick with what you are best at. im not saying minato and hashirama are only good at nin, but that might be their strongest area just like gen is itachis. when it clearly says in the manga the 4th hokage was the greatest ninja ever (i guess we can now exclude so6p) im sure he can beat itachi. and once again, if hashirama beats ems madara, itatchi with just ms is not that much, c'mon now


please give a good reason why you think itachi is stronger than all the hokages, give me indications and examples from the manga not just "itachi wins just because he has sharingan" or any lame excuse like that....

---- and about the realistic scenario thing, going into battle minato is gonna know that itachi has sharingan and avoid eye-to-eye contact but still get around any genjutsu or susanoo or amaterasu. how about you try to stop oversimplifying battles . and this is what i mean. when you assume minato will get caught in gen right off the back, you are not taking into account his intelligence, speed/reaction time, and the fact that itachi does not always go into battle with the ms or even regular sharingan already activated. thats like saying in a battle against madara or suigaetsu they we will always be dematrialized through-out the whole battle, that doesn't happen. we saw what happened to tobi when he tried that on minato, tobi got out-smarted which is a key factor in battle. i can go on and on about this........ ill stop this post for now...... -_-

 

[ninetailedhokagesage]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

itachi is strong no doubt about that but i dont know about being stronger than all the previous hokages

 

[-Vegeta-]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Honestly,only Hiruzen would be a good match-up against Itachi.
The databook indicated that Hiruzen has high points in genjutsu(possibly he can break most of it)

And stop hyping Hashirama and Minato.It's all meaningless really.
Neither of them had shown any good taijutsu,genjutsu and even strength feats.
Characters like Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Rock Lee, Part 1 Kakashi, Gaiden Kakashi, Kisame, Hinata and Neji would one shot both of them.

I don't think it's necessary anymore for Kishimoto to show more flashbacks of them.

And for those who thinks that Minato>Itachi,try making a realistic scenario where he isn't caught in genjutsu in the first place before you say 'Minato ass-rapes with FTG'. Just try.

I stopped reading after this. Do you even read naruto? Clearly you're an Itachi fanboy who likes hyping him up to be stronger than he really is. There's no way he can beat Hashirama and i don't believe he could beat Minato either. Heck i don't know if he could even beat Hiruzen in his prime, but since we've never seen him in his prime we don't really know. Itachi is one of my favorite characters, but your trying to make him much stronger than he really is.

 

[Sprizzle]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Lol Itachi may be Stronger then most Ninja in Genjutsu... But he isn't the Strongest... A would Side Step Itachi's Amteratsu, Before Itachi even uses Genjutsu on A, A would of had killed Itachi already with one punch...
And A isnt the Strongest Character, Naruto,Bee, Madara,Minato,Hashirama, and so on are alot more powerful or Equal to A.... Naruto is more powerful because he wasn't even trying to fight A but instead trying to get passed him... So yeah....

 

[YIN YANG]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

he couldve killed jiraiya
Lmao he was workin for the village thats why they didnt fight, AND didnt capture naruto, itachi was secretly workin for the village look:

1.Ok When itachi & kisame entered the village and Asuma & kurenai met them, HOW COME there wasent an IMMEDIATE report to the hokage warning the village That the AKATSUKI IS IN THE HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE everything was quiet, and NOBODY died,- Itachi didnt even kill Kakashi when he had the chance, Kakashi said,"Why didnt he kill me, he couldve killed me if he wanted to'' Kakashi said that after itachi Realeased Tsukiyomi.

2. But when pain entered the village Everyone was told THAT THE AKATSUKI is in the village and things got outta control.
watch episode 81 or 82 Original naruto) itachi & kisame was even having a drink in the village lol

Pain didn't have the password like itachi so what are you talking about Itachi can come in at any time.Jiraiya can take on Itachi he trains for genjutsu.
Jiraiya has the speed strength and chakra To go against Itachi.
Pain had one body in the village and then the leaf spotted that body but then it summoned the other pains within the village causing confusion plus with the animal summons.:flaw::flaw::flaw:

 

[Nidaimerocks]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

By hype and feats from manga recently.Even assuming that he doesn't has Shisui's gen,he's still the strongest.

Bullshit

His genjutsu is to be immensely powerful eclipsing even Madara by reputation.

I call bullshit again. Madara by feat is superior to Itachi in genjutsu. He kept a perfect jinchiruki in a genjutsu for years, a feat Itachi could never dream of. He also kept Sasuke in his genjutsu dimension while he had the MS. Itachi does not have any feats comparable to this. Madara has tsukuyomi as well, so Itachi is inferior by feats

The genjutsu is impossibly avoidable because it involves eye contact.Adding the fact that if you don't meet his eyes,you'll look at his fingers.
It's incorrect to say that his genjutsu is breakable,since a long-experienced shinobi couldn't broke his low-rank genjutsu.

His genjutsu is breakable because Orochimaru almost broke out of it. So, I am not sure what you are talking about. Furthermore, Sakura broke the one he cast on Naruto. Sakura!!!!!! Also, you can fight Itachi and see his eyes as long as you have a partner to break you out of his genjutsu

Susano'o >Death Reaper Seal by effectiveness.

Irrelevant and moot point

I said it once,and I would say it again.Madara indicated that he lost to Hashirama to 'gain access of his abilities'/simply put he wasn't fighting seriously back then.Hashirama tamed Kyuubi with Mokuton.Itachi could've done the same with genjutsu.Itachi>Hashirama by feats.

First of all, Madara also indicated that Hashirama was stronger than him, so your point is moot. Hashirama does not just control the kyuubi, he controls ALL bijuu with mokuton, so by feats, Hashirama>Itachi. Hashirama had several bijuu under his command, Itachi never even faced one bijuu

I also find that Itachi's taijutsu bested all previous hokages'.

Itachi's taijutsu is plenty average. Tsunade has better taijutsu than him. In conclusion

Shodai: Superior to Itachi because he is stronger than Madara, who Itachi admitted inferiority to.

Nidaime: Superior to Itachi because Itachi can't touch him due to space-time ninjutsu while he can abuse him with edo tensei

Sandaime: I will give you this one

Yondaime: superior to Itachi because of hiraishin and space-time barrier

Godaime: I will give you this one

Rokudaime Danzou: Superior to Itachi because of Shisui's eye and Hashirama's chakra

In other words, Itachi is as strong as the weakest hokages

 

[Olorin]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Honestly,only Hiruzen would be a good match-up against Itachi.
The databook indicated that Hiruzen has high points in genjutsu(possibly he can break most of it)

And stop hyping Hashirama and Minato.It's all meaningless really.
Neither of them had shown any good taijutsu,genjutsu and even strength feats.
Characters like Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Rock Lee, Part 1 Kakashi, Gaiden Kakashi, Kisame, Hinata and Neji would one shot both of them.

I don't think it's necessary anymore for Kishimoto to show more flashbacks of them.

And for those who thinks that Minato>Itachi,try making a realistic scenario where he isn't caught in genjutsu in the first place before you say 'Minato ass-rapes with FTG'. Just try.

honestly dude WTF?

you say Hashirama and Minato have noo skills dude they each have one thing emhasized (FTG and Wood) and they pwn most if not even all chars today only with those and you forget that Hashirama was also an accomplished earth and water user, Minato had AT LEAST one element, Minato was the best Fuinjutsu user, he is the best technique developer (dead demon seal, FTG, Rasengan, ''That Jutsu'' ...) and Hashirama had a lot to do with the scroll Naruto stole

Im not saying both will just win against Itachi but you my friend are totally unreasonable and you are quite keen to prove us right

P.S. Sharingan cant even see Minatos speed and Hashirama fought EMS (regardless of the outcome of Hashi VS Madara he fought it non the less) NOT MS and last time I checked Itachi only had MS

Dont get me wrong I think Minato vs Itachi is a close call but for Minato
and Hashi vs Itachi its a close call for Itachi if he plays his cards right and doesent drag his best cards too long

 

[YIN YANG]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Exactly.

Just to remind everyone, that when itachi fought,

Deidara, Kakashi,and Orochimaru.

He literally ended them ALL in the first few seconds.

Orochimaru managed to kill the 3rd Hokage ( was known to be the strongest in the history )

And if Itachi defeats Oro in the 1st minute. What does that say what Itachi can do to all the others.


Itachi would have more Trouble with JIRAIYA then he would with ANY of the past 4 hokages.

That is only because i believe Jiraiya's sage mode would render his tsukyonmi useless because of the chakra instability.

I know your gonna say Minato would win, because he's too quick.
, well... not really. Itachi only has to point his finger, or just disperse into crows so he cant be hit.

Eitherway, once anyone is hit with 3 days of Pure intense pain. They're gonna be wobly.

And theres no reason why Itachi couldnt just do it straight away as soon as its ended. and give them another hellacious experience.

The rule's simple. Never fight against a sharinghan user 1v1 as you will not win.

Jiraiya of all people told us this, and something tells me he wasnt lieing.

The only reason why orochimaru defeated hte third hokage is because orochimaru ressurected the 1st and 2nd hokage from the dead and they can not be killed they'll either have to be sealed or go away by their emotions.
Hiruzen died also because he didn't really want to kill his student orochimaru and the death tech kills the user once the person is sealed.
What can itachi do against the 1st and 2nd hokage. Both of them are fast strong.The 1st has genjutsu himself and wood release.What are you going to say Itachi can use susanno and seal the first.The first can dodge that tech and avoid and im sure he has tech against that susanno remember susanno is nearly invincible it's not unbeatable.
Minato is better than Jiraiya he was his pupil successcer he died to stop the nine tails You Don't have to look at his eyes or finger's to fight a sharingan user.the only hokage Itachi better than is the 5th hokage.:flaw::flaw::flaw:
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[YIN YANG]

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Probably Gai was just lying to show how badass he is in front of Kakashi,by battling against someone like Itachi.

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Why would guy lie there no need to lie.:flaw:

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

By hype and feats from manga recently.Even assuming that he doesn't has Shisui's gen,he's still the strongest.

His genjutsu is

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to be immensely powerful eclipsing even Madara by reputation.The genjutsu is impossibly avoidable because it involves eye contact.Adding the fact that if you don't meet his eyes,you'll look at his fingers.
It's incorrect to say that his genjutsu is breakable,since a long-experienced shinobi

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Susano'o >Death Reaper Seal by effectiveness.

I said it once,and I would say it again.Madara indicated that he lost to Hashirama to 'gain access of his abilities'/simply put he wasn't fighting seriously back then.Hashirama tamed Kyuubi with Mokuton.Itachi could've done the same with genjutsu.Itachi>Hashirama by feats.

I also find that Itachi's taijutsu bested all previous hokages'.

1. you are basing itachi being better on hype, feats, and reputation:
ok basing it on these is absolutely ridiculous. based on hype and reputation? thats the hype of the fans which really doesnt matter. and hype and reputation in the show? tsunade has been hyped as one of the strongest shinobi in the world and one of the strongest ever produced by the leaf. and yet a lot of fans think she is weak. kakashi has been hyped up as one of the strongest in the world and yet a lot of people can hold their own against him. hype and reputation doesnt matter whether it is by fans or by characters. feats? other than slaughter his clan in the middle of night when nobody knew what was coming what has itachi done? he never confronted madara in an attempt to fight meaning itachi knew he couldnt win. he had to go by roundabout means like placing amaterasu in sasuke to try and kill madara and that failed. 1st and 4th hokage confronted madara and won and took kyuubi from him. itachi never tried to fight him. and madara did not lose to 1st on purpose. why would he? to get DNA? he could have just beaten 1st and taken his DNA. madara only said that stuff because as itachi said he is a loser who has been shamed with defeat. if he could have beaten hashirama then he would have because he would have DNA, kyuubi, and hokage title. there was no reason for him to lose on purpose. he lost because he was beaten by superior shinobi. now back to itachi. the reason why more than likely he cant beat hokage's is because the hokage's have a long history with uchiha, especially 1st and 2nd. 1st and 2nd fought countless battles against madara and assumingly izuna. yet neither one of them were defeated by elite sharingan users. this tells me that they can counter genjutsu and MS techs. 3rd can counter them because he has been said to have mastered all jutsu in konoha and he was the GOD OF SHINOBI. you want to go by hype and reputation ok, he is the strongest shinobi in history by hype and reputation. itachi would get slaughtered, by reputation of course. 4th fought madara who had sharingan and yet madara didnt use genjutsu on him. and dont say its because he cant thats just ridiculous. he had sharingan so he can use high level genjutsu. so if genjutsu could take out hokage's easily why hasnt it? its because it cant. their are ways to defend against genjutsu. it's not invincible.

now let's talk about itachi's techs:
3 tomoe sharingan itachi and his abilities= beaten by all hokages, thats right dont underestimate tsunade
MS itachi= beaten by first 4 hokage and here's why
1. amaterasu: despite being "hyped" as undodgeable several characters have blocked or dodged it. 1st can block with wood release. 2nd can block with water or dodge with space-time. 3rd can do whatever he wants because he's GOD OF SHINOBI and by hype and reputation the strongest fighter in history. 4th can dodge with space-time.
2. tsukuyomi: despite being "hyped" as unbreakable bee was able to break sasuke's. 1st and 2nd i'm sure are experienced enough against both uchiha and genjutsu to know not to look directly in eyes. 3rd has enma who can break him out. 4th has toads that can break him out. and tsunade has katsuya to break her out. hachibi was able to break bee out of tsukuyomi so we can assume other summons can do it as wel.
3. susanoo: despite being "hyped" as the ultimate defense danzo was able to find a way around it and he was nowhere near the level of the other hokage. not to mention susanoo anchors user to ground so they can only move at slow pace. get out of range of the sowrd (which shouldnt be hard) and susanoo is usless except for defense. oh and draining itachi's chakra, making him blind, and then killing him. its also useful for those. 1st with wood release can trap susanoo and get out of range with ease. i mean really his wood release was strong enough to restrain tailed beasts i'm sure it can deal with susanoo. not to mention if he gets his tailed beasts that he had control of itachi is most certainly dead. 2nd hokage has space-time to get out of reace. not to mention he can just teleport anywhere he wants, say to the middle of susanoo where itachi is for example. boom itachi's dead because he cant move. 3rd again is GOD OF SHINOBI and by hype and reputation the strongest shinobi ever. i really dont have to make reasons why he can win because you said by hype and reputation itachi is strongest and can beat anyone. rescind that statement and i'll give reasons why 3rd would beat him. 4th again has space-time. he can get out of range or teleport directly to itachi and kill him.

it seems to me that you are basing itachi winning on the assumption that the hokage's have no defense against genjutsu and that itachi can use susanoo and amaterasu and hokage's have no defense. you assume that as soon as itachi uses MS the hokage's wont fight back? we know next to nothing of all of the hokage's abilities and yet you are going to say itachi can beat them. that is just ridiculous. itachi is strong but he was pushed to death by sasuke. all hokage's are stronger than sasuke when he "beat" itachi so i'm 100% positive all hokage's can push itachi to his death. again hype and reputation is useless. all he did was slaughter his clan in secret. thats not too impressive if you ask me. they didnt know what was coming of course they would all be killed. other than that what has itachi done? he didnt beat kakashi with ease because he used tsukuyomi which is one of his three most powerful jutsu. he used it because he didnt want to get in a fight with kakashi because he knew it would be time consuming and costly. he didnt fight jiraiya. he didnt kill oro. he got "beat" by sasuke. he couldnt kill madara. it seems to me that itachi really doesnt have any amazing feats. it seems he failed at mostly everything he tried to do. and you're going to say he's better by feats? he has no feats. 1st defeated madara and kyuubi. thats better than anything itachi did so 1st is stronger. 2nd fought on par with uchiha for years, fought kinkaku and ginkaku, and fought elite kinkaku force. thats better than anything itachi did so 2nd is stronger. 3rd is GOD OF SHINOBI so he's stronger. 4th beat madara and kyuubi which is better than anything itachi did so 4th is stronger. tsunade, well whatever i'll give you that one itachi can beat tsunade if he uses MS. don talk about feats or reputation like it makes itachi better because it doesnt. he may have been one of the most powerful shinobi in history but he really didnt do anything amazing. yeah thats dissappointing to realize i know that. i'm a huge itachi fan and i'm pissed that kishi gave him a sickness and got him killed off by a weakling by sasuke but that's just the way it goes down. in hype hokage's beat itachi. in reputation hokage's beat itachi. i mena their kage's of course they have extremely high reputations. and in abilities? well i already told you we dont know really any of the abilities of the hokage's so i dont know who's stronger. but to assume that because of MS techs and genjutsu itachi can win is a mistake.

i'm sorry about this rant your statements just kind of pushed my buttons. and it wasnt just yours i dislike how everyone thinks itachi can beat anyone when it hasnt been proven and mostly all of the people they say itachi can beat we know nothing about. again i'm sorry for seeming mean. and i just want to make it known i am an itachi fan and i think he is one of strongest in history, just not as strong as hokage's.

and saying that itachi was working for konoha so thats why he didnt face jiraiya stuff is kind of foolish. it may be true and most likely is but that doesnt mean he can beat jiraiya. we seem to base itachi's abilities on fights that never occured. stronger than madara for reasons but he never fought madara. stronger than jiraiya for reasons but he never fought jiraiya. and stronger than nagato for reasons but he never fought nagato. i'm sorry but just because a lot of people think he can beat these people doesnt mean that he can. oh and saying that itachi could have tamed kyuubi with sharingan doesnt mean he can. your entire theory is based on what itachi CAN and COULD do instead of what he DID do.

 

[psukkar]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

By hype and feats from manga recently.Even assuming that he doesn't has Shisui's gen,he's still the strongest.

His genjutsu is

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to be immensely powerful eclipsing even Madara by reputation.The genjutsu is impossibly avoidable because it involves eye contact.Adding the fact that if you don't meet his eyes,you'll look at his fingers.
It's incorrect to say that his genjutsu is breakable,since a long-experienced shinobi

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Susano'o >Death Reaper Seal by effectiveness.

I said it once,and I would say it again.Madara indicated that he lost to Hashirama to 'gain access of his abilities'/simply put he wasn't fighting seriously back then.Hashirama tamed Kyuubi with Mokuton.Itachi could've done the same with genjutsu.Itachi>Hashirama by feats.

I also find that Itachi's taijutsu bested all previous hokages'.

Lol This very funny, not much fanboyism here lol. This post indicated to be you dont read the manga enough. At least u mentioned itachi has shisu's MS eye.

1) We dont know where Madara stands with genjutsu, besides ITachi hyped up madara to begin with. Then Madara hyped up Harasihrama. So your logic fails here.

3) Madara said harashima was the strongest in his time, stop making up stuff. Madara revealed his motive to fight harashima, this doesnt mean he was holding back, after all why bring the fox into the battle if hes just let himself lose. Its more logical to believe madara needed the fox and all this powers to get some of harashima's fleash.

3)Also i get worried when people say itachi has great taijutsu, im thinking your may got fever when did your post and you werent thinking clearly. Also harasihrama can use high level genjutsu, such as the bringer of darkness. which is an A-rank genjutsu. And The thrid hokage commented on the first hokages taijutsu still being powerful.

Theres alot more to say but your clearly HugeLY underestimating madara and hararshima to the point of being irrational.

And when you writes things like Itachi > harashima, only makes you look bad.

And its even more funny when u say, u base it on "feats" although no one in the series so far has come to close to haraishrama in terms of feats apart from the so6p.

I was surprised you didnt try to belittle the 2nd hokage(hes looking to be very strong too, great water mastey, forbidden techs, space time jutsu etc) in some way liek the u did for the others. I think your just cut no one with the sharingan ever was a hokage. Well too bad, they werent hokage material. A clan that prefers to kill each other for power, dont know what leadership means.

You should try and read the manga more before posting, I personally would have been embarrassed posting that.Ur post wasn't pleasent to read in my opinion.

 

[Lord Snow]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

itachi is stronger than 2nd,3rd,4th,5th

 

[wonderwho]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

he would only defeat tobirama and tsunade... i think, and almost kill minato

 

[wonderwho]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Lol This very funny, not much fanboyism here lol. This post indicated to be you dont read the manga enough. At least u mentioned itachi has shisu's MS eye.

1) We dont know where Madara stands with genjutsu, besides ITachi hyped up madara to begin with. Then Madara hyped up Harasihrama. So your logic fails here.

3) Madara said harashima was the strongest in his time, stop making up stuff. Madara revealed his motive to fight harashima, this doesnt mean he was holding back, after all why bring the fox into the battle if hes just let himself lose. Its more logical to believe madara needed the fox and all this powers to get some of harashima's fleash.

3)Also i get worried when people say itachi has great taijutsu, im thinking your may got fever when did your post and you werent thinking clearly. Also harasihrama can use high level genjutsu, such as the bringer of darkness. which is an A-rank genjutsu. And The thrid hokage commented on the first hokages taijutsu still being powerful.

Theres alot more to say but your clearly HugeLY underestimating madara and hararshima to the point of being irrational.

And when you writes things like Itachi > harashima, only makes you look bad.

And its even more funny when u say, u base it on "feats" although no one in the series so far has come to close to haraishrama in terms of feats apart from the so6p.

I was surprised you didnt try to belittle the 2nd hokage(hes looking to be very strong too, great water mastey, forbidden techs, space time jutsu etc) in some way liek the u did for the others. I think your just cut no one with the sharingan ever was a hokage. Well too bad, they werent hokage material. A clan that prefers to kill each other for power, dont know what leadership means.

You should try and read the manga more before posting, I personally would have been embarrassed posting that.Ur post wasn't pleasent to read in my opinion.

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