Itachi's Strength

[makinow kitomi]

Itachi is a GREAT ninja nothing more nothing less. Ppl can over exaggerate his abillities, his "legendary weapons", and even post-or-pre Illness all they want. We no that he killed his on clan with the help of madara ,who was only a shell of his former self.Evident. He Has shown signs of ginus. Evident in the last two manga.

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We Now that he didnt kill Shsui so we can asume that he helped out too. Only speculation. The only evidence we have seen or herd is in the manga and show.

The fact fact of the is this:

WE no only 10% 0f the 1ST Hokages tech but we no that battled and defeated the STRONGEST AND THE MOST FEARED NINJA in Madara Uchiha, he had the wood style that he use to controle the most powerful and most unstopable of the tailed beast in the 9 tails fox and he used to created a WHOLE village ground up. IT was said and we seen a fraction of it with Yamato. ALL evident in the manga and show so we can count it.

WE no know that the Madara now is, " nothing more than a shell of his former self.

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AND yet he now ubtained EMS and rinnigan with his own sixth of the paths who were the former JinJu.

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All IS evident so we can count it.


WE now that Minato was the fist one to become Hokage at a record young and (if u want a link, you doint no nothin, loo k for yorself ) WE only know a fraction of his tech, but we have seen evident of his ginus: he can up with a plan to recounter madara's space-daminsion Jutsu , break Madara's controle over the 9 tails and wound him twise in 2.5 seconds give or take.through breakinng down Madara's words and malisous intent he managed to re-seal the 9 tals in his only son naruto, seal some of his and kushina's life force life force within naruto, and created a key for naruto to use to unlock the kuubis full power, ALL in that small fragment of time. AND intrusted
naruto to save the ninja world. ALL IS EVIDENT SO I CAN COUNT IT.

( Agian if u want a link, you doint no nothin, loo k for yorselfU_U )



now I jest worte alot to prove a point. I dont like doing alot to prove points, but it had to be done. Let me say tht I adimere the greatness of the shinobi Sippuden. Fans of Itachi nead to stop with the malarkey. The things you ppl are saying is undoughtly-no guestion-100%-the crem dela crem-grade A-Ilachi hardcord fan BULL****.:flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
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[MinatoFLASH]

Re: Itachi is d strongest ninja ever(not includin So6p)

You are way overhyping itachi's powers. He is very strong, and he does have a high standing in terms of overall power. But on the level of the Sage of 6 Paths, or the raikage, bee, and the 4th, he doesn't have the chance to win. The speed of the last 2 would prevent him from putting them in genjutsu, and the sage of the six paths would just use Chibaku Tensei and imprison him in another moon

Ur right he isnt as strong has so6p and maybe a few others but to say he isnt on the same lvl as Bee and Raikage!!! WOW! Thats crazy talk! Sasuke beat bee without EMS! WTF!!! Plz plz explain how Bee or Raikage cud beat Itachi (healthy)!!! And he is in the same lvl as 4th but maybe 4th is more powerful but Itachi's around there.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Now this is just BS!!! Itachi is very powerful but 1st and Madara arent the only ppl who cud kill him. So i see u switched the thread becuz ur old thread made no sense saying he isnt much stronger healthy. But not all Itachi fans say Itachi is that strong so ur lying again. SO6P cud beat him, Pain and Minato too and maybe even J-man but thats about all.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Re: Itachi is d strongest ninja ever(not includin So6p)

bee cannot win from itachi........and sasuke can not get ems until he kills itachi(and the topic is about itachi not being killed)....muu can also be put under tsukuyomi before he uses dust release....and wtf gara???? he cant even withstand itachi for more than 1 min.....


dude..... ur comments are shouting that u r itachi hater......c'mon dude its just an anime character dont be jealous by a character from anime....

Ur right except the part bout Gaara, dont underestimate him. But yea the guy u replied to is a real crack head hater. Also Raikage wud get owned by Itachi easily. Itachi is way too intelligent and powerful.

 

[makinow kitomi]

NOW 60 pages

 

[spideysenses]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

yea but he can't avoid tsukoyomi and itachi's genjutsus

tsukoyomi is itachi's genjutsu

 

[DigitalMonster]

Madara stated that Itachi is the only threat in his way from Konoha.
Madara considered Hashirama more like a friendly rival;not as a fear to him.


Hashirama is losing his hype ever since Sandaime was hyped as the strongest Hokage that Konoha had ever made.
I don't really see what's so 'special' for being the person who fought Madara.
Konan fought Madara and injured him rather easily.

 

[makinow kitomi]

Madara stated that Itachi is the only threat in his way from Konoha.
Madara considered Hashirama more like a friendly rival;not as a fear to him.


Hashirama is losing his hype ever since Sandaime was hyped as the strongest Hokage that Konoha had ever made.
I don't really see what's so 'special' for being the person who fought Madara.
Konan fought Madara and injured him rather easily.

Madara was weak. he seaid that he is only a shell of his former self
he was at his peak form when he faught the 1st

 

[Kranium]

Itachi is GOD

 

[makinow kitomi]

Itachi is a GREAT ninja nothing more nothing less. Ppl can over exaggerate his abillities, his "legendary weapons", and even post-or-pre Illness all they want. We no that he killed his on clan with the help of madara ,who was only a shell of his former self.Evident. He Has shown signs of ginus. Evident in the last two manga.

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Now that he didnt kill Shsui so we can asume that he helped out too. Only speculation. The only evidence we have seen or herd is in the manga and show.

The fact fact of the is this:

WE no only 10% 0f the 1ST Hokages tech but we no that battled and defeated the STRONGEST AND THE MOST FEARED NINJA in Madara Uchiha, he had the wood style that he use to controle the most powerful and most unstopable of the tailed beast in the 9 tails fox and he used to created a WHOLE village ground up. IT was said and we seen a fraction of it with Yamato. ALL evident in the manga and show so we can count it.

WE no know that the Madara now is, " nothing more than a shell of his former self.

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AND yet he now ubtained EMS and rinnigan with his own sixth of the paths who were the former JinJu.

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All IS evident so we can count it.


WE now that Minato was the fist one to become Hokage at a record young and (if u want a link, you doint no nothin, loo k for yorself ) WE only know a fraction of his tech, but we have seen evident of his ginus: he can up with a plan to recounter madara's space-daminsion Jutsu , break Madara's controle over the 9 tails and wound him twise in 2.5 seconds give or take.through breakinng down Madara's words and malisous intent he managed to re-seal the 9 tals in his only son naruto, seal some of his and kushina's life force life force within naruto, and created a key for naruto to use to unlock the kuubis full power, ALL in that small fragment of time. AND intrusted
naruto to save the ninja world. ALL IS EVIDENT SO I CAN COUNT IT.

( Agian if u want a link, you doint no nothin, loo k for yorself )



now I jest worte alot to prove a point. I dont like doing alot to prove points, but it had to be done. Let me say tht I adimere the greatness of the shinobi Sippuden. Fans of Itachi nead to stop with the malarkey. The things you ppl are saying is undoughtly-no guestion-100%-the crem dela crem-grade A-Ilachi hardcord fan BULL****.


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[JMAN]

Can anyone explain how itachi can defeat minato ?
Minato is a genius even more rare than itachi ,he knows not to look in his eyes etc... and find a strategy to defeat him

 

[Olorin]

yes he has to look at his eyes but Itachi still has to cast it so its basically like amaterasu

 

[Ultimatevirus]

Re: Itachi is d strongest ninja ever(not includin So6p)

Ur right except the part bout Gaara, dont underestimate him. But yea the guy u replied to is a real crack head hater. Also Raikage wud get owned by Itachi easily. Itachi is way too intelligent and powerful.

ohh... i was gonna edit and also put raikage in the list of shinobi's whom itachi can defeat, but to commented before.........
and for the gara part...i perhaps over exaggerated...but the fact is itachi can easily win from gara...all thanks to tsukuyomi.........

 

[NaruGokuPWNS]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

lol We saw like 95 % of raikages power when he fought sasuke. he was havin a MIGHTy' Long time killing sasuke, he can barely brake sasukes incomplete Susano'o, so imagine itachi's. And dat baby sasuke was almost able to keep up with him, -_- Itachi is faster than sasuke & better than him at Taijutsu.

dont even mention tsunade lol, she was owned by Kabuto.

We know nothing about 2nd hokage so dont mention him

i dont know about the 3rd, because even a old 3rd couldnt beat orochimaru.(although he probably would of beat him if he was younger) But itachi owned him in like 40 secs (including talking)

4th hokage ..........idk, since Minato mainly a Taijutsu user and that requires up close-physical contact, and itachi has a utlimate defense against Phisical attacks, that fight may go either way

1st hokage would probably whoop itachi' asz

Mizukage..idk we havent seen alot of her moves

Tsuchikage, i dont think he wud beat itachi, maybe he can,

Kazagage.....cmon now, You already knowU_U

O.O O.O 95% of RAIKAGES POWER...u must be jokin...hes got tailed beast level chakra, he can do FAR more moves and techs than shown against sasuke, hes a kage, he cant do just only that...all the kages werent even play fighting wid sasuke...it was at most target practice, he was gettin murked by raikage even though he wasn't even going 20%...no even 10% against sasuke U_U, he got saved LOADS of times in every fight against every kage. He didnt do one of his fastest punches against sasuke did he (but he did it against naruto even though they where just gettin round n the other blockin, and not even play fighting wid each other at all xd)...also sasuke should of died like 5 times...if it wasnt for sussano im sorry but sasuke would be dead. And what do u mean BARELY brake sussanos bones, he broke a good amount of bones with liger bomb.

O.O And did u say sasuke was able to KEEP UP WITH HIMO.O U_U :flaw:, now this is just ridiculous...sasuke couldnt even react to raikages speed at ALL see the fight in the manga or anime again PLEASE, after raikage dodged amaterasu at such a close range in a split sec or less, sasuke is shown in the manga and anime to be lookin around the place to see where raikage is...then raikage comes and does some next move and sasukes still lookin the other way trying to see where he is (ref. chapter 463 pg 13-14), the only reason he clocked raikage is cos raikage screamed out the move xd. Even karin said sasuke couldnt keep up wid raikage at ALL so fail .

Also maybe at points she (tsunade) was gettin owned by kabuto at points, it was only cos kabuto later on knew her weakness cos oro told him. Overall tsunade would whip her ass wid her diamond forehead tech (cant remeber da name), that makes he wounds instantly regenerate, also he strength....nuff said, we havent even seen 20% of her power so.....fail.

We do know some stuff about 2nd hokage READ da manga... he can use space-time tech, master of water release (do a 40 seals tech with 1 seal, see sarutobi vs 1st and 2nd hokage), calculate how many opponents in terrain with 1 finger, (minato can do that as well), and thats not even breaking into the surface of what he can do and his power O.O... (the senju clan werent called 1000 tech clan for nothin).

Don't underestimate the 3rd, just his presence was ripping up the tiles and enviroment (and his chakra is nowhere near as powerful as a few years younger and still tromendously powerful chakra, mentioned by ANBU), also even oro said the 3rd just 10 years younger would beat him. And oro is beyond immeasurably Overpoweredly powerful..hes been scratched in half and still survived easily, Hes immortal...nuff said.

Dont underestimate kazekage gaara, he blocked amaterasu with his sand, and amaterasu is released on FOCUSED contact, it doesn't travel but appears on the focused contact (killer bee vs sasuke this is shown), and gaara still blocked it. Also gaara is just so badass now...see his fight against his dad the 4th kazekage...(even though we never saw and he never showed nowhere near all the 4th kazes power, not even 10%, and he was under control). Now tell me that gaara is one immensely powerful ninja, garaa uses some sick landscape busting tech against the 4th kaze (although 4th kaze countered it with another landscape busting tech).

We cannot say for a fact but only assume these things when we havent seen itachi go even 50% (sickness, didnt want to kill sasuke in fight)...and havent seen any kages go more than even 20%...no even 10%. And if they have gone more than 10% show me from the manga how, cos in fact they havent (except for when 3rd hokage fought against oro...but he was OLD).

 

[NaruGokuPWNS]

sorry its LONG but had to get it all out....

 

[psukkar]

Madara stated that Itachi is the only threat in his way from Konoha.
Madara considered Hashirama more like a friendly rival;not as a fear to him.


Hashirama is losing his hype ever since Sandaime was hyped as the strongest Hokage that Konoha had ever made.
I don't really see what's so 'special' for being the person who fought Madara.
Konan fought Madara and injured him rather easily.

Man how is possible that ur so clueless,.. HOW?

Madara has been fighting toe to toe with some of the strongest shinobi in a weakened state caused by hasihrama in all his fights in this generation.


Madara hasnt used any shraingan tech, at all. No EMS nothing

And you honestly think madara now is no different to when he was against hashrama.

May I remind my little annoying individual of what we know of this fight,

1) Madara using EMS(greater than MS) with the fox were defeated by the first hokage. This is fact.

2) The damage caused by hashirama is what cause the current state hes been in after that fight. Still affect him to this day. He says this. FACT

3)His current state the one everyone like minato,konan some others here and there. Can't handle madara without pulling out all the stops, he still has haxxed jutsu.

4) This is what madara had to say about hashriama.

"He was the strongest shinobi in his time and the only person I respected and hated the most"

These are facts, EMS greater than MS. This one of the most obvious things that we can say about madara and his prime.

Onki fought against him too, he like 70 years old and notes he surprised madara has to go in the shadows to get what he wants, at which time madara explained he was heavily weaked by hasihrama.

 

[blackbird31468]

Madara stated that Itachi is the only threat in his way from Konoha.
Madara considered Hashirama more like a friendly rival;not as a fear to him.


Hashirama is losing his hype ever since Sandaime was hyped as the strongest Hokage that Konoha had ever made.
I don't really see what's so 'special' for being the person who fought Madara.
Konan fought Madara and injured him rather easily.

but you have to remember that madara was weak and konan started the battle prepared and with a ton of advantages on her side and still couldn't beat him when his only real weapon was a pipe and hers was a billion paper bombs.

 

[arv993]

Those actually are their abilities though the weapons are not itach's abilities.

But u are saying itachi is who he is because of the legendary weapons he found. And therefore according to ur post would be talking away his strength that makes him powerful and reduce him to nothing?

Here's something all you itachi fans boys can learn from a real naruto manga fan.


Itachi isnt powerful becuase of the legendary weapons, I was saying that the recent threads about itachi being unbeatable and can own any kage etc.., stem from poeple just saying he would do this and that because of the legendary weapons he found and your fogeting what itachi can and cant do himself.

There was a time itachi or orochimaru didn't have such items, and just because a ninja gets these items this doesnt mean the items do all the work and just by having them you can own anyone.

The manga would be not have been a success as it is if any ninja with an item can be unbeatable. For example would fans like it if some fodder ninja got the items and he kills a great shinobi just like that. But people dont mind itachi having them.

Its like Zetsu said

"A master with stick can defeat a novice with kunai"

The weapons that he has are not something that he went and found but they are abilities only rare users of the sharingan get. It is because he is talented not saying that he is best but his abilities are thanks to his skills not becuz he found them it comes from his sharingan.

 

[arv993]

Man how is possible that ur so clueless,.. HOW?

Madara has been fighting toe to toe with some of the strongest shinobi in a weakened state caused by hasihrama in all his fights in this generation.


Madara hasnt used any shraingan tech, at all. No EMS nothing

And you honestly think madara now is no different to when he was against hashrama.

May I remind my little annoying individual of what we know of this fight,

1) Madara using EMS(greater than MS) with the fox were defeated by the first hokage. This is fact.

2) The damage caused by hashirama is what cause the current state hes been in after that fight. Still affect him to this day. He says this. FACT

3)His current state the one everyone like minato,konan some others here and there. Can't handle madara without pulling out all the stops, he still has haxxed jutsu.

4) This is what madara had to say about hashriama.

"He was the strongest shinobi in his time and the only person I respected and hated the most"

These are facts, EMS greater than MS. This one of the most obvious things that we can say about madara and his prime.

Onki fought against him too, he like 70 years old and notes he surprised madara has to go in the shadows to get what he wants, at which time madara explained he was heavily weaked by hasihrama.

I agree with you 100%, some ppl think that madara is nothing becuz he was hurt by konan who pretty much planned everything and was well aware of his abilities where as madara was arrogant and thought it would be a walk in the park.

 

[Nidaimerocks]

Madara stated that Itachi is the only threat in his way from Konoha.

Bull. Madara said he no longer needed to keep his promise not to touch Konoha. The only thing Itachi had on Madara was that he could divulge his secrets. Itachi himself said Madara was stronger than him. He even tried a bitch move to attack Madara with a surprise amaterasu just to have Madara make fun of him

Madara considered Hashirama more like a friendly rival;not as a fear to him.

Bull again. Madara said that Hashirama was a man he HATED. He also said that he was the only man he admired. The word translated as admired in that sentence can also be translated as idolized according to one of the translators. It is the same word that is used in the databook to describe how Hinata feels about Naruto.

Hashirama is losing his hype ever since Sandaime was hyped as the strongest Hokage that Konoha had ever made.
I don't really see what's so 'special' for being the person who fought Madara.
Konan fought Madara and injured him rather easily.

Actually, Sandaime was hyped first before the shodai got any praise. Then it was revealed that the shodai had control over several bijuu. The point is not only that the shodai defeated Uchiha Madara, the man Oonoki said is stronger than the current crop of kages, but also that he had several bijuu under his control. With incomplete control over one bijuu, a ninja becomes kage level. Complete control over one bijuu makes a ninja top tier amongst the kages. However, Senju Hashirama had complete control over SEVERAL bijuu.