What's your problem with Itachi?
Are you that butthurt by Itachi being powerful?
Srsly, bro. Calm it down.
You're seriously tempting me to make an Itachi thread to entirely sh!t on nearly all Naruto characters, to do away with these useless Itachi vs threads.
What's your problem with Itachi?
Are you that butthurt by Itachi being powerful?
Srsly, bro. Calm it down.
You're seriously tempting me to make an Itachi thread to entirely sh!t on nearly all Naruto characters, to do away with these useless Itachi vs threads.
Yes i've a problem with Itachi. I don't like him. So? What are you going to do now? Suicide? I create what i want. Create your thread if you want. I don't care about u. Only thing i would do is to create threads which i think are logical. If it hurts you because it's about Itachi, it's your problem
Let's calm down with Itachi's genjutsus overrating.It's easy to predict his genjutsu.When Itachi prepare his genjutsu without sharigan he has to perform a hand seal and keep the Ram seal for a moment and then he can cast it (just like Kakashi when he used it against Sakura he needed use rat).
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It's easier for Kakashi compared to visual genjutsus.Even more when i saw that he needed to use 2 low genjutsus (dusk and ephemeral) on Naruto who is one of the worst at genjutsu when Kakashi (no sharingan) needed only 1 to caught Sakura .Kakashi can easily use similar genjutsu level based on handseal like he did against Sakura in first chapters Magen: Narakumi no Jutsu when Itachi failed to got Kakashi with Magen: Kami bodibāningu .
It's not for nothing that Itachi immediatly used tsukiyomi on Kakashi in part 1.Kakashi didn't know that Itachi developed it and Itachi knew that his regular genjutsu has no effect Kakashi.
Yes i've a problem with Itachi. I don't like him. So? What are you going to do now? Suicide? I create what i want. Create your thread if you want. I don't care about u. Only thing i would do is to create threads which i think are logical. If it hurts you because it's about Itachi, it's your problem
Well you call this a logical thread, but you say that you dont like itachi and are trying to prove that he is overrated. You are coming of as a hater imo.
as for your thread well kabuto was obviously set up way better than kakashi or gai to avoid genjutsu and guess what? he got caught lol the only way kakashi or gai beat itachi is together. i think kakashi would be high to med difficulty and gai would be the same depending if he gets to open gates or not. itachi is a boss
Well you call this a logical thread, but you say that you dont like itachi and are trying to prove that he is overrated. You are coming of as a hater imo.
I don't really hate Itachi. He is my third favourite character tbh. I only said that because he way irritating me
as for your thread well kabuto was obviously set up way better than kakashi or gai to avoid genjutsu and guess what? he got caught lol the only way kakashi or gai beat itachi is together. i think kakashi would be high to med difficulty and gai would be the same depending if he gets to open gates or not. itachi is a boss
Let's calm down with Itachi's genjutsus overrating.It's easy to predict his genjutsu.When Itachi prepare his genjutsu without sharigan he has to perform a hand seal and keep the Ram seal for a moment and then he can cast it (just like Kakashi when he used it against Sakura he needed use rat).
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It's easier for Kakashi compared to visual genjutsus.Even more when i saw that he needed to use 2 low genjutsus (dusk and ephemeral) on Naruto who is one of the worst at genjutsu when Kakashi (no sharingan) needed only 1 to caught Sakura .Kakashi can easily use similar genjutsu level based on handseal like he did against Sakura in first chapters Magen: Narakumi no Jutsu when Itachi failed to got Kakashi with Magen: Kami bodibāningu .
It's not for nothing that Itachi immediatly used tsukiyomi on Kakashi in part 1.Kakashi didn't know that Itachi developed it and Itachi knew that his regular genjutsu has no effect Kakashi.
The first thing the guy said is that itachi's genjutsu is predictable, and you say plus rep??
At least half of the times itachi caught people with genjutsu they didnt realize until after they were in it, and if itachi has to weave signs he normally does under his cloak so you wouldnt even see him do it. fanboyism goes both ways ya know
uhm...no. that is Kakashi intervening to save Naruto, it's better obvious from the next page where you can see Naruto still standing in the same place and Kakashi landing in front of them
Kakashi can also do the same as well. It doesn't mean it would work against Itachi. There are levels of genjutsu and Kakashi has already said he could counter sharingan genjutsus with his sharingan, and Itachi agreed with that. Sharingan usually helps to see through genjutsu. It's stated since the begin of the manga plenty of times
Kakashi could cast a generic genjutsu because of his sharingan, i don't think we have ever seen him doing that though. also, as you said the sharingan can differentiate chakra and sharingan users can tell when sb is under genjutsu. the same is true about breaking a genjutsu with an average sharingan, but it takes a lot of skill and only Sasuke has managed to break free from Tsukyomi with just a sharingan. Kakashi broke free from Itachi's normal genjutsu because he was not the real one but a kage bunshin (and possibly because even that genjutsu was generated with 30% of Itachi's full power and no, i am not talking about an MS gen). so, and since Kakashi hasn't showed any particular prowess with genjutsu so far i will say that Itachi was being polite and recognised that Kakashi was training with his sharingan a lot.
Not really. Kakashi was never put in a genjutsu in that fight. It was his clone and Itachi actually said later that it would not have worked against him
if he didn't expect it, then it was suspicious that he tried it to begin with. which means either that Itachi expected to catch him in a genjutsu but lied or that he was simply not out to do heavy damage, or that he knew a 30% powered replica would not generate a proper gen.
Cuz i believe that finger genjutsu is a genjutsu that they can break(i believe it's not as strong as you think). It worked against Naruto cuz he had bad control of his chakra and eventhen he almost managed to break it. His stronger genjutsus are sharingan genjutsus and if you avoid eye contact, you're fine like Kakashi says on my pic and they have shown they are able to fight someone just by judging his movements. So that's why i believe Itachi would only difficulty manage to put them in a genjutsu especially against Kakashi who is even a MS user
we don't know under normal circumstances if Itachi can channel enough chakra to make a powerful sharingan genjutsu or even an MS gen through his fingers. that's a given, nothing to argue here as we do not know about this technique enough. (also, Naruto did not break it. he had his chakra disrupted by Sakura and chiyo... that's called being saved, he himself couldn't do much). so, the way things are now it's pointless to discuss this. maybe by channeling chakra with his fingers he gets weaker genjutsus, maybe he can intensify them by let's say adding some fuinjutsu or sth.
the point is that Kakashi or Gai can come up with some ways to counter genjutsu, but that's different from actually being on par with a genjutsu user or even more so managing to win against one of the best in the kind and in his own area of expertise! what you are saying is almost like: take any shinobi you want and then decide that they could win against Gai in taijutsu because that particular shinobi has some skills to counter taijutsu...
@supino read narutokage99 post. Kakashi used the exact same genjutsu Itachi used against Naruto. It was against Sakura. Also you're wrong, Kakashi has already shown Sharingan genjutsus against Zabuza or against Danzo root ninjas. Also, Itachi said himself that a MS user can counter his tsukiyomi
Concerning this pic:
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I don't really know how you can't see that they were fighting. Even on this page that you're showing, it only shows Kakashi stepping back and the action is in continue with the one i have shown you on my pic since he was jumping back in the air at that moment. You can even notice the smoke between them meaning that there was a hard fight
@supino read narutokage99 post. Kakashi used the exact same genjutsu Itachi used against Naruto. It was against Sakura. Also you're wrong, Kakashi has already shown Sharingan genjutsus against Zabuza or against Danzo root ninjas. Also, Itachi said himself that a MS user can counter his tsukiyomi
yes, i remember Kakashi's genjutsu and i am pretty sure that's your average sharingan genjutsu nothing special about it. never said Kakashi can't use, read, understand or cannot counter basic genjutsu. but that his skills are not a match for Itachi's who is the expert in that field. i read the post you mention and also, no, nothing as predictable as that. Itachi does not always have to concentrate and do the ram seal. a lot of times he just casts his gen without any signs. and the last part is in reference to what he said about his brother...
ok, this is not a thread about whether sth is plausible or not, is it? it's more about proving that a camel can go through the eye of a needle. that's cool. ice cream for all, just don't proclaim that others are wrong when you haven't proved your case....
EDIT: the guy who is up in the air is Kakashi, Naruto is the one in the far right along with Sakura and Chiyo. Itachi is on the far left. no sign that Naruto moved an inch from where he stood! the smoke is the result of Kakashi's attack who is the one closer to the smoke and Itachi, not the guy who stands in the exact opposite side.
@bogard you think naruto is stronger then hashi??? but you have madara above naruto even though he admitted hashi is stronger? i dont see the logic here. Wait a sec sasuke is at the bottom below kabuto? Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion, but imo your opinion is wack
