you just missed the part where I mentioned fire jutsu being on extraordinary scales and then you bring up Hashi cells, mokuton, and rinnegan madara
I already said rinnegan doesn't grant you huge scaled fire jutsu....this is just Madara's power
in my first comment I only mentioned PS(which is a fact that Madara had it with EMS before hashi cells) and the fire jutsu(which is more advanced that Itachi's)
you then tell me how Hashi cells boosted all of his jutsu.....well I ask you, where does it say that?
how is it not evidence? Tsunade says this....now you're questioning what a character says? How else would you interpret anything from her statement other than
"he fought PS and it's pretty unbelievable because I never imagined this to be it."
The bold makes no sense whatsoever..with Susanoo bigger does equal stronger, this should be obvious by now as every time Sasuke's Susanoo got bigger during the Kage Summit it got stronger.
I'm just assuming? Have you been reading the manga? Have you been reading my posts? Apparently not.
Madara's Susanoo versions all trump Itachi's versions..PS will be no different.
Bigger doesn't mean its stronger, Sasuke's susano is faster,
Have u seen itachi's ps have u seen his Ems susano, don't think so, I am gonna say it again the reason madara susano is so strong is because he has better eyes, itachi having the same eyes as madara, then imma put my money on itachi cause he is more smarter and if u do read the manga u would also remember itachi saying during his fight with Sasuke that only me ( itachi ) can surpass madara by obtaining Ems, so u haven't seen itachi's Ems and ps susano, but u r saying madara's will be better which doesn't make sense.
I said that Madara's Susanoo will be stronger than Itachi's because every Susanoo Madara has is better than every Susanoo Itachi has, thus EMS Madara>EMS Itachi.
The other guy also said Madara's Ribcage and Incomplete Susanoo was better due to EMS making them like that, so I told him that EMS didn't do that to Sasuke's so it won't happen to Madara's.
Oh yeah.
You're the guy who says Bigger=Better huh?
Do you know how Big Itachi's PS would be? Nope.
You act like Itachi's PS is going to be the size of a Gingerbread man while Madara's PS is the size of a Sky Scrapper.
When talking about Susanoo bigger is better, that's a fact that has been shown in the manga many times right now. I don't how big it would be but it definitely won't be bigger than Madara's.
If Itachi got EMS his Final Susanoo would most likely similar if not the same to Sasuke's as it is the same EMS as Sasuke as. This is probably an unstabilizied version of Sasuke's Final Susanoo. I say this because Madara and Sasuke's unstabilized Final Susanoo both have the same unique characteristics (Eyes, arms, both come from EMS, and you can see chakra radiating off of it in tiny chunks) the only difference is that Madara's is bigger.
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This is Madara's Unstabilized Final Susanoo.
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When Madara stabilized it, it grew in height a little bit. (Look at this and the unstabilized version's height compared to the meteor)
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So the difference in size is probably going to be around the difference in size between Sasuke's possibly unstablilized version of Susanoo and Madara's Unstabilized Perfect Susanoo.
and now you're speculating that he didn't have enough chakra to do this in the first place "facepalm"
here it says Uchiha have unparallelled chakra and Madara was born with the greatest, strongest chakra
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Gaining the EMS also increases one's chakra by giving the host the chakra of the doner
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logically....he has enough chakra for pretty much any tech. Nagato was able to do chibaku tensei when he only had a small amount of chakra and Madara definitely has more chakra than Nagato
When talking about Susanoo bigger is better, that's a fact that has been shown in the manga many times right now. I don't how big it would be but it definitely won't be bigger than Madara's.
If Itachi got EMS his Final Susanoo would most likely similar if not the same to Sasuke's as it is the same EMS as Sasuke as. This is probably an unstabilizied version of Sasuke's Final Susanoo. I say this because Madara and Sasuke's unstabilized Final Susanoo both have the same unique characteristics (Eyes, arms, both come from EMS, and you can see chakra radiating off of it in tiny chunks) the only difference is that Madara's is bigger.
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This is Madara's Unstabilized Final Susanoo.
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When Madara stabilized it, it grew in height a little bit. (Look at this and the unstabilized version's height compared to the meteor)
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So the difference in size is probably going to be around the difference in size between Sasuke's possibly unstablilized version of Susanoo and Madara's Unstabilized Perfect Susanoo.
Madara's "unstablized" form is probably the next form of Complete Susano'o.
If Madara's Susano'o was in the Complete form, it would look like Sasuke's or Itachi's.
The one we saw is probably the next Stage before Perfect Susano'o.
Bigger doesn't mean its stronger, Sasuke's susano is faster,
Have u seen itachi's ps have u seen his Ems susano, don't think so, I am gonna say it again the reason madara susano is so strong is because he has better eyes, itachi having the same eyes as madara, then imma put my money on itachi cause he is more smarter and if u do read the manga u would also remember itachi saying during his fight with Sasuke that only me ( itachi ) can surpass madara by obtaining Ems, so u haven't seen itachi's Ems and ps susano, but u r saying madara's will be better which doesn't make sense.
Since when is Sasuke's Susanoo faster than anyone elses? I'm going to say this one more time...Madara's Ribcage and Incomplete Susanoo are naturally that big, EMS did not increase their size, just like it didn't increase the size of Sasuke's Ribcage and Incomplete, it only added new features to the latter.
And what makes you think I care what Itachi said? And I'm not going to repeat myself on why Madara's PS will be better than Itachi's PS..the posts are in the thread, I suggest you go read them.
and now you're speculating that he didn't have enough chakra to do this in the first place "facepalm"
here it says Uchiha have unparallelled chakra and Madara was born with the greatest, strongest chakra
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Gaining the EMS also increases one's chakra by giving the host the chakra of the doner
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logically....he has enough chakra for pretty much any tech. Nagato was able to do chibaku tensei when he only had a small amount of chakra and Madara definitely has more chakra than Nagato
I never said he didn't have enough Chakra to do it. I just said Hashirama's cells probably gave him a lot of Chakra. So much, that he could do a bigger version of his Techniques.
Madara's "unstablized" form is probably the next form of Complete Susano'o.
If Madara's Susano'o was in the Complete form, it would look like Sasuke's or Itachi's.
The one we saw is probably the next Stage before Perfect Susano'o.
No, its not the next form of Complete Susanoo its his Final Susanoo (A.K.A Perfect Susanoo) unstabilized, they're the same level of Susanoo but one is stabilized and the other isn't.
