Itachi would Fodderize Madara

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Madara had Hashirama's cells at the time, so he was Upgraded greatly.
Give Itachi Hashirama's cells, and then see how powerful he becomes.
Matter of fact, that was Rinnegan Madara, and not EMS Madara, so your Arguement is Invalid.



You think EMS Madara is stronger than EMS Itachi because he had so much Hype.
Itachi didn't have as much Hype as Madara, so you guys think out of Two EMS users, one with 2 LEGENDARY WEAPONS, equal in Sharingan mastery, Madara would win? You guys make it seem like Madara won't break a sweat against another EMS user. Especially since it's Itachi we're talking about.

no I'm pretty sure rinnegan doesn't grant you over-the top scale fire jutsu....Madara had to learn that jutsu on his own, and he learned it in his EMS/MS days before obtaining rinnegan....as a matter of fact, you're wrong

PS alone destroys Itachi....and it is an absolute fact that he had it before having the rinnegan or Hashi cells.

Madara was the one who figured out the secrets of the EMS.....if it wasn't for him, the Uchiha and Itachi would have never obtained it.....he is the father of the EMS and also the first man to control a bijuu. I'm pretty sure he can bring down Itachi with genjutsu....

Madara wouldn't have been the clan leader if he wasn't the strongest.

He beat Muu and Onoki at the same time during his EMS days while holding back and not using PS.....I don't see Itachi beating 2 jinton users who can fly and one that can turn invisible.

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Smh madara was using his Ems and itachi using his ms that's y his was bigger. Although I liked ur theory about how itachi is good at tsukyomi and Sasuke being good with amaterasu and madara being good with susano, but in the end its just a theory whoever has better eyes win no matter how good of susano madara has if he has ms and itachi has Ems then his susano wouldn't matter cause itachi will rape him so its not about the susano or amaterasu its just whoever has better eyes win, so madara wins however if the have same eyes then itachi would win cause of his smartness and they have same eyes.
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Itachi is so over rated it's unreal but evening know that senju DNA is what will allow you to beat anyone if killing had senju DNA frieza wouldn't stand a chance so giving Itachi senju DNA would even the odds more but Madara still wins at the end of the long grueling battle.
 

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What are those legendary weapons going to do to PS? Totsuka isn't piercing through Susanoo, so no Madara's Susanoo will always be better than Itachi's Susanoo.

The Yata Mirror.

Itachi was running with his eye closed....it wasn't instant, he was charging it up while running

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Ok not instant, but you were implying that it takes a very long preparation by showing different pages. It only takes a few seconds and he can do it while he is moving.
 

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...but Perfection is Perfection. They both would look the same when they're Perfect. They'll only have Differences in the head probably.

Your argument is basically that Madara' Susano'o is bigger, so therefore Madara wins?

Oh, and did you know Eternal Mangekyo upgrades your Susano'o's weaker forms too?
That's probably why Madara's has Legs.

They won't both look the same if none of their Susanoo looked the same to begin with, and EMS does upgrade the weaker forms of your Susanoo but Sasuke's EMS upgraded Incomplete Susanoo only has 4 arms as an upgrade, not a pair of legs, so Susanoo having legs is unique to Madara. And "Perfect" Susanoo is merely a term Madara made for his Susanoo. Perfect Susanoo is merely his Final Susanoo that comes after his Complete Susanoo.

Bigger Susanoo means better defense and better attack power.
 

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no I'm pretty sure rinnegan doesn't grant you over-the top scale fire jutsu....Madara had to learn that jutsu on his own, and he learned it in his EMS/MS days before obtaining rinnegan....as a matter of fact, you're wrong

PS alone destroys Itachi....and it is an absolute fact that he had it before having the rinnegan or Hashi cells.

Madara was the one who figured out the secrets of the EMS.....if it wasn't for him, the Uchiha and Itachi would have never obtained it.....he is the father of the EMS and also the first man to control a bijuu. I'm pretty sure he can bring down Itachi with genjutsu....

Madara wouldn't have been the clan leader if he wasn't the strongest.

He beat Muu and Onoki at the same time during his EMS days. while holding back and not using PS.....I don't see Itachi beating 2 jinton users who can fly and one that can turn invisible.

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Ah, no.
Hashirama boosted Madara up to a whole 'nother level.
Madara can use Hashirama's healing and Mokuton Jutsu since he got some of his cells.
His jutsu and chakra were probably boosted too.
Give Hahsirama's cells to Itachi and let Itachi get Hashirama's face on his Left Titty and see how powerful Itachi gets.
 

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Itachi is so over rated it's unreal but evening know that senju DNA is what will allow you to beat anyone if killing had senju DNA frieza wouldn't stand a chance so giving Itachi senju DNA would even the odds more but Madara still wins at the end of the long grueling battle.

I said EMS Madara vs. EMS Itachi not Rinnegan Madara vs. EMS Itachi.
 

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Ah, no.
Hashirama boosted Madara up to a whole 'nother level.
Madara can use Hashirama's healing and Mokuton Jutsu since he got some of his cells.
His jutsu were probably boosted too.
Give Hahsirama's cells to Itachi and let Itachi get Hashirama's face on his Left Titty and see how powerful Itachi gets.

I don't believe I ever said anything about mokuton....I'm talking about fire jutsu and PS which fodderizes Itachi.

Can you give me a link where it says that Hashi cells boosted Madara's Fire Jutsu?
 

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no I'm pretty sure rinnegan doesn't grant you over-the top scale fire jutsu....Madara had to learn that jutsu on his own, and he learned it in his EMS/MS days before obtaining rinnegan....as a matter of fact, you're wrong

PS alone destroys Itachi....and it is an absolute fact that he had it before having the rinnegan or Hashi cells.

Madara was the one who figured out the secrets of the EMS.....if it wasn't for him, the Uchiha and Itachi would have never obtained it.....he is the father of the EMS and also the first man to control a bijuu. I'm pretty sure he can bring down Itachi with genjutsu....

Madara wouldn't have been the clan leader if he wasn't the strongest.

He beat Muu and Onoki at the same time during his EMS days while holding back and not using PS.....I don't see Itachi beating 2 jinton users who can fly and one that can turn invisible.

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show me the page where he had p.f sosunno before renni , u cant because now u talking out yr ass. p.s dont try to come back with that page of onki saying why didnt u use it before because im just gonna hit u with the page where madara say... everyone who has seen p.s have died before it.
 

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Smh madara was using his Ems and itachi using his ms that's y his was bigger. Although I liked ur theory about how itachi is good at tsukyomi and Sasuke being good with amaterasu and madara being good with susano, but in the end its just a theory whoever has better eyes win no matter how good of susano madara has if he has ms and itachi has Ems then his susano wouldn't matter cause itachi will rape him so its not about the susano or amaterasu its just whoever has better dua win, so madara wins however if the have same eyes then itachi would win cause of his smartness and they have same eyes.

Wrong. Sasuke's EMS didn't increase the size of his Incomplete Susanoo it only added another pair of arms and it didn't even change his ribcage so you're little "he was using his EMS" argument is false.

Wrong again, doesn't matter if they have the same eyes cause EMS Madara has the better Susanoo and always will.

The Yata Mirror.

And what will the Yata Mirror do? Protect Itachi until eventually Madara's breaks his Susanoo or until Itachi's Susanoo goes down cause Madara has more chakra than him and has better stamina than him.
 
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People are underestimating itachi so much he was a monster with ms and his sickness if u give him Ems and take his sickness out he would be unstoppable.
 

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I don't believe I ever said anything about mokuton....I'm talking about fire jutsu and PS which fodderizes Itachi.

Can you give me a link where it says that Hashi cells boosted Madara's Fire Jutsu?

Hashirama cells greatly Upgraded Madara all-around.
It's like Madara going Super Sayian.
Madara now has his own powers and Hashirama's powers.
 

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no I'm pretty sure rinnegan doesn't grant you over-the top scale fire jutsu....Madara had to learn that jutsu on his own, and he learned it in his EMS/MS days before obtaining rinnegan....as a matter of fact, you're wrong

PS alone destroys Itachi....and it is an absolute fact that he had it before having the rinnegan or Hashi cells.(1)

Madara was the one who figured out the secrets of the EMS.....if it wasn't for him, the Uchiha and Itachi would have never obtained it.....he is the father of the EMS and also the first man to control a bijuu. I'm pretty sure he can bring down Itachi with genjutsu....
(2)

Madara wouldn't have been the clan leader if he wasn't the strongest.

He beat Muu and Onoki at the same time during his EMS days while holding back and not using PS.....I don't see Itachi beating 2 jinton users who can fly and one that can turn invisible.

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(1) is it a fact?

(2) so the person that created Karate for example is better than anyone to ever practice Karate in the world? Or the person who created a video game etc.
 

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show me the page where he had p.f sosunno before renni , u cant because now u talking out yr ass. p.s dont try to come back with that page of onki saying why didnt u use it before because im just gonna hit u with the page where madara say... everyone who has seen p.s have died before it.

"sigh" gtfo now U_U

First off Tsunade says "to think my grandfather fought something like this"

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Next Onoki asks why Madara held that back in their battle

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Wrong. Sasuke's EMS didn't increase the size of his Incomplete Susanoo it only added another pair of arms and it didn't even change his ribcage so you're little "he was using his EMS" argument is false.

Wrong again, doesn't matter if they have the same eyes cause EMS Madara has the better Susanoo and always will.

No. Stop right there.
Mangekyo Sharingan boosts all of your Susano'o forms.
You can see how Upgraded Complete Susano'o was when Sasuke was throwing Amaterasu Flames at white Zetsus.
 

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Hashirama cells greatly Upgraded Madara all-around.
It's like Madara going Super Sayian.
Madara now has his own powers and Hashirama's powers.

I don't see a manga page
 
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