Itachi would Fodderize Madara

[Talal]

"sigh" gtfo now U_U

First off Tsunade says "to think my grandfather fought something like this"

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Next Onoki asks why Madara held that back in their battle

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Wow you call these facts...

 

[Lightbringer]

Wow you call these facts...

actually yeah....manga=fact

 

[TruthLover19]

Wrong. Sasuke's EMS didn't increase the size of his Incomplete Susanoo it only added another pair of arms and it didn't even change his ribcage so you're little "he was using his EMS" argument is false.

Wrong again, doesn't matter if they have the same eyes cause EMS Madara has the better Susanoo and always will.

Ur saying Sasuke's susano didn't get BIGGER but it got stronger if something is big doesn't necessarily strong, so ur argument is invalid and how can u say that madara's susano will always be better when u haven't seen itachi's so ur just assuming that his is better.

 

[KidGamer65]

No. Stop right there.
Mangekyo Sharingan boosts all of your Susano'o forms.
You can see how Upgraded Complete Susano'o was when Sasuke was throwing Amaterasu Flames at white Zetsus.

Like I said, the size of his Susanoo wasn't increased, I never said it never got a boost, I just said the size doesn't increase.

Upgraded Final Susanoo was throwing flames but did it get bigger? Did it grow legs? No it didn't.

And his ribcage Susanoo is still the same.

 

[A$AP Wap]

I don't see a manga page

You don't see the Manga page where Madara created a huge forest, and the one where he used Hashirama's Wood Dragon to try to stop Naruto?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Itachi>Madara

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[A$AP Wap]

Like I said, the size of his Susanoo wasn't increased, I never said it never got a boost, I just said the size doesn't increase.

Upgraded Final Susanoo was throwing flames but did it get bigger? Did it grow legs? No it didn't.

And his ribcage Susanoo is still the same.

Wait, what was your argument again?

 

[Lightbringer]

You don't see the Manga page where Madara created a huge forest, and used Hashirama's Wood Dragon to try to stop Naruto?

I don't see a manga page where it says that Hashi cells boosted Madara's jutsu "all round"

Yeah it gave him mokuton and rinnegan.....but I don't believe I mentioned them in my examples of EMS madara's arsenal

 

[KidGamer65]

Ur saying Sasuke's susano didn't get BIGGER but it got stronger if something is big doesn't necessarily strong, so ur argument is invalid and how can u say that madara's susano will always be better when u haven't seen itachi's so ur just assuming that his is better.

The bold makes no sense whatsoever..with Susanoo bigger does equal stronger, this should be obvious by now as every time Sasuke's Susanoo got bigger during the Kage Summit it got stronger.

I'm just assuming? Have you been reading the manga? Have you been reading my posts? Apparently not.

Madara's Susanoo versions all trump Itachi's versions..PS will be no different.

 

[A$AP Wap]

I don't see a manga page where it says that Hashi says boosted Madara's jutsu "all round"

Yeah it gave him mokuton and rinnegan.....but I don't believe I mentioned them in my examples of EMS madara's arsenal

All we've seen Madara do was with Rinnegan/Hashirama's Cells.
We never seen anything Madara could do with just EMS.

 

[Lightbringer]

All we've seen Madara do was with Rinnegan/Hashirama's Cells.
We never seen anything Madara could do with just EMS.

wow you're obviously not reading what I've posted

 

[KidGamer65]

Wait, what was your argument again?

I said that Madara's Susanoo will be stronger than Itachi's because every Susanoo Madara has is better than every Susanoo Itachi has, thus EMS Madara>EMS Itachi.

The other guy also said Madara's Ribcage and Incomplete Susanoo was better due to EMS making them like that, so I told him that EMS didn't do that to Sasuke's so it won't happen to Madara's.

 

[Talal]

actually yeah....manga=fact

How would they know if he had it back then or not...

Until it's confirmed we don't know how PS is unlocked. I also think that you need EMS not Rinnegan, but it's not confirmed.

I said that Madara's Susanoo will be stronger than Itachi's because every Susanoo Madara has is better than every Susanoo Itachi has, thus EMS Madara>EMS Itachi.

The other guy also said Madara's Ribcage and Incomplete Susanoo was better due to EMS making them like that, so I told him that EMS didn't do that to Sasuke's so it won't happen to Madara's.

Since when is Bigger = Better (sounds sexual )?

Using that logic chogi's father is the strongest.

 

[A$AP Wap]

I said that Madara's Susanoo will be stronger than Itachi's because every Susanoo Madara has is better than every Susanoo Itachi has, thus EMS Madara>EMS Itachi.

Oh yeah.
You're the guy who says Bigger=Better huh?

Do you know how Big Itachi's PS would be? Nope.
You act like Itachi's PS is going to be the size of a Gingerbread man while Madara's PS is the size of a Sky Scrapper.

 

[Lightbringer]

How would they know if he had it back then or not...

Until it's confirmed we don't know how PS is unlocked. I also think that you need EMS not Rinnegan, but it's not confirmed.

dude.....did you not see where Tsunade says "to think that my grandfather fought something like this"

That means that Hashi fought PS

Madara only had EMS when he fought Hashi

Madara didn't get the rinnegan until he was old, and only after he inserted himself with Hashi cells

Madara didn't get Hashi cells until after his final battle with Hashi

hence Madara had PS when he had EMS....end of discussion

 

[A$AP Wap]

wow you're obviously not reading what I've posted

And you're not reading what I posted.

 

[A$AP Wap]

dude.....did you not see where Tsunade says "to think that my grandfather fought something like this"

That means that Hashi fought PS

Madara only had EMS when he fought Hashi

Madara didn't get the rinnegan until he was old, and only after he inserted himself with Hashi cells

Madara didn't get Hashi cells until after his final battle with Hashi

hence Madara had PS when he had EMS....end of discussion

Wait, it doesn't mean Hashi fought PS.
Tsunade could be referring to Madara's overall strength.
...and How would she know? She wasn't there.

 

[StraawHat]

Did anybody but me see the photo of the defeated Itachi in madaras hand? This argument in itself is invalid, there are too many and some unconfirmed and unstated factors that could come into play.

 

[Talal]

dude.....did you not see where Tsunade says "to think that my grandfather fought something like this"

That means that Hashi fought PS

Madara only had EMS when he fought Hashi

Madara didn't get the rinnegan until he was old, and only after he inserted himself with Hashi cells

Madara didn't get Hashi cells until after his final battle with Hashi

hence Madara had PS when he had EMS....end of discussion

Again how would Tsunade know if he used PS against her grandfather or not she wasn't there.

 

[Lightbringer]

And you're not reading what I posted.

actually yeah I am

you just missed the part where I mentioned fire jutsu being on extraordinary scales and then you bring up Hashi cells, mokuton, and rinnegan madara

I already said rinnegan doesn't grant you huge scaled fire jutsu....this is just Madara's power

in my first comment I only mentioned PS(which is a fact that Madara had it with EMS before hashi cells) and the fire jutsu(which is more advanced that Itachi's)

you then tell me how Hashi cells boosted all of his jutsu.....well I ask you, where does it say that?