Itachi vs Sasori?

Who will win?

  • Itachi

    Votes: 38 77.6%
  • Sasori

    Votes: 11 22.4%

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Guildmage

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Chiyo+sakura could beat sasuke? Think that too... Chiyo+sakura beated sasori.
A>B
B>C
Doesn't exactly means that A>C

that logic is not true in this cases.........

back on topic...... one of the ones that voted for sasori is me =) =)

another reason to support sasori is that.......
in the same way that mizukage's mist went through sasuke's susanoo......... In that same way Sasori's poison mist will go through itachi's susanoo and dont come with Yata mirror thing because all that we will be winning is that sasori will simply cover the arounds of susanoo in the mist.... as he did when fighting sakura.......

so people dont count out sasori
 
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i actually think that sasori would have a chance at winning. sure Itchi has his amateratsu and Susano'o, but there is more than one reason that they are considered his trump card. for one, Itachi cant last in a fire fight for very long, due to the illness wearing down his body. also his eyes have been losing their light, so to use Susano'o to its maximum ability, would put a huge strain on Itachi and would eventually mean that Susano'o would be taken out f the picture early on. Being the tactical genius that Sasori is said to be, he would probably force Susano'o out of itachi as quickly as possible, then dodge attacks and throw light ones at itachi to ensure his continued use of Susano'o, till the jutsu finally takes to much of a toll on itach and its taken out of the game. not to mention if at any point durring the fight, itachi were cut by one of the thousands of poison attacks coming at him from Sasori, the fight would be over immediately. Case and point Sasori could win if everything went according to his plans.
 

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And also after using Susanoo the user experiences effects, if Itachi is in this state than he may be dead. Using Susanoo can spend a lot of chakra. If Sasori turn himself in his "truebody" than I doubt Itachi would've won.
 

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sasori will beat itachi anytime.

200+ puppets??every single weapon with poison? hell one scratch from those weapons and itachi is gone..
and if gaara's sand can block amaterasu, remember sasori have the 3rd kazekage's metal sand.

the only ones that can beat sasori is an s-rank puppeteer and a very good med ninja.. which happens to be his last opponent namely chio and sakura.
 
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ameratsu aint a waste if he uses it from the beginning of the fight he cant switch puppets because there are none to switch to and it would burn the core to a crisp anyway...the only way sasori is a problem is if he can pull the 100 puppets out...
using amaterasu at the start of the fight is the most stupid thing itachi would do. while amaterasu burns the first puppet of sasori he can just simply jump out of that puppet and make that puppet run towards itachi and that would be fatal to itachi if he got caught with his own technique lol. amaterasu dont burn things instantly, there is still a few minutes before things turn to ashes.

lol and itachi trying to cut all those chakra string is stupid thing.he face all of the puppets of sasori without an antidote, hell one scratch and he is done...sasori's poison is much more effective in this fight compare to amaterasu.

susanoo is also useless here. sasori is a long range fighter and susanoo's attack is just short range.. i can clearly see what will happen, once sasori realize that he cannot break susanoo for sure he'll keep distance and will try techniques that'll work till susanoo's gone. poison mist is one technique that will surely pass through susanoo.


again no one will survive sasori without the antidote that sakura made! period.
 

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Sasori isn't the weakest of Akatsuki, Hidan is. (I didn't say he's weak, just the weakest).

Genjutsu won't affect Sasori since he doesn't have a brain. Amaterasu will get him for sure, tho. I don't know about Totsuka, but he won't need it.
 

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I only see Itachi win with Susano'o but still then Sasori just need a poison mist...
His sand or puppets can block the amaratsu easily so yea...
 

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using amaterasu at the start of the fight is the most stupid thing itachi would do. while amaterasu burns the first puppet of sasori he can just simply jump out of that puppet and make that puppet run towards itachi and that would be fatal to itachi if he got caught with his own technique lol. amaterasu dont burn things instantly, there is still a few minutes before things turn to ashes.

lol and itachi trying to cut all those chakra string is stupid thing.he face all of the puppets of sasori without an antidote, hell one scratch and he is done...sasori's poison is much more effective in this fight compare to amaterasu.

susanoo is also useless here. sasori is a long range fighter and susanoo's attack is just short range.. i can clearly see what will happen, once sasori realize that he cannot break susanoo for sure he'll keep distance and will try techniques that'll work till susanoo's gone. poison mist is one technique that will surely pass through susanoo.


again no one will survive sasori without the antidote that sakura made! period.
ur right...but for one if he jumps out the puppet he gots nowhere to go and itachi can just use ameratsu again on the core this time...he "will" notice the core jumping out with his insight...and even if he does miss the core jumping out where is it going to go?lol fly at itachi?lol...against sasuke he used ameratsu like 5 times so dont say something like his stamina will be a huge problem...lol do u think itachi will get hit by a puppet on fire coming at him on fire? ill let u answer that...

yea noone can survive the poison but he gotta hit em with it first...itachi ends fights quickly and doesnt play with any1 when hes serious...this will be no different
 
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ur right...but for one if he jumps out the puppet he gots nowhere to go and itachi can just use ameratsu again on the core this time...he "will" notice the core jumping out with his insight...and even if he does miss the core jumping out where is it going to go?lol fly at itachi?lol...against sasuke he used ameratsu like 5 times so dont say something like his stamina will be a huge problem...lol do u think itachi will get hit by a puppet on fire coming at him on fire? ill let u answer that...

yea noone can survive the poison but he gotta hit em with it first...itachi ends fights quickly and doesnt play with any1 when hes serious...this will be no different
and you think sasori would just sit there waiting for itachi to fry him? same as itachi, sasori is a genious and had lots of battle experience. as i have said sasori got 3rd kazekage and his metal sand that can block amaterasu same way gaara block 3 consecutive amaterasu from sasuke. and with your scenario if itachi fails with that attack his chakra would go down really quick and sasori can just rape him in the butt.
 

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and you think sasori would just sit there waiting for itachi to fry him? same as itachi, sasori is a genious and had lots of battle experience. as i have said sasori got 3rd kazekage and his metal sand that can block amaterasu same way gaara block 3 consecutive amaterasu from sasuke. and with your scenario if itachi fails with that attack his chakra would go down really quick and sasori can just rape him in the butt.
ameratsu is just a lil bit faster than him opening a scroll to pull out a puppet that has to even open his chakra thing in his chest and his mouth to pull out the iron sand in the first place...lol b4 he finishes that hes fryed...and in ur scenario wat if hes not fast enough to block ameratsu? or wat if he misses in tryna to block it? wat if he doesnt even see it coming? sasori isnt gaara he wont block it just cause gaara did...if thats the case because gaara blocked it and the raikage dodged it i guess ameratsu is just some ordinary tech that any1 can see coming
 

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ameratsu is just a lil bit faster than him opening a scroll to pull out a puppet that has to even open his chakra thing in his chest and his mouth to pull out the iron sand in the first place...lol b4 he finishes that hes fryed...and in ur scenario wat if hes not fast enough to block ameratsu? or wat if he misses in tryna to block it? wat if he doesnt even see it coming? sasori isnt gaara he wont block it just cause gaara did...if thats the case because gaara blocked it and the raikage dodged it i guess ameratsu is just some ordinary tech that any1 can see coming
yeah thats the sad part. we never really see amaterasu devastated someone. or we never really see amaterasu kill anyone.lol

those are all "what if's"
i'll give you one scene that'll counter that.

itachi fires amaterasu on the first puppet of sasori, it got caught then sasori jumps directly at the back of that puppet covering him from the sight of itachi and quickly releases the 3rd kazekage.. on that moment itachi's misery will start.
 

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yeah thats the sad part. we never really see amaterasu devastated someone. or we never really see amaterasu kill anyone.lol

those are all "what if's"
i'll give you one scene that'll counter that.

itachi fires amaterasu on the first puppet of sasori, it got caught then sasori jumps directly at the back of that puppet covering him from the sight of itachi and quickly releases the 3rd kazekage.. on that moment itachi's misery will start.
well considering i said the start of the battle he wouldnt have any puppets out yet...lol you say like urs arent "what if's"....the kazekage puppet will block it...he'll release the core into another..jump into the back of the puppet...all "what if's"...to each his own
 

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Itachi vs Sasori

Sasori is literally the worse possible match for Itachi for 2 main reasons: his strengths are itachi's weaknesses. Itachi in his sick state would pose little match for Sasori.
As narutopedia states, Itachi's weakness is fighting prolonged matches against strong opponents. Since he can't do this, he resorts to strong genjutsu's to end a match quickly.
Sasori, as a puppet, has literally infinite stamina. Thus he can control the pace of the battle and outlast most opponents. He can prolong a match against sick itachi, until overuse of MS, or low stamina makes him succumb to his sickness, or until he simply passes out.
Itachi would have to resort to strong genjutsu's to end the match quickly, but this is a problem.

3 things almost everyone (including sasori fans) ignore when talking about him in vs. threads

1. Genjutsu's don't work on him. This has been long debated, but simply using the facts from the manga/anime, the fact is that he only has a heart. The real sasori is his heart. He doesn't have a brain IN his heart, like some say, because it is stated that he only has a heart/is a heart, not has his lungs, brain, spleen, stomach, liver, kidneys, etc. in his heart container. Without a brain, no genjutsu can work, since genjutsu's are illusionary images that use the physical brain of an opponent. Sasori also doesn’t have a normal Chakra circulation System (CCS). He only has a heart that projects chakra threads through his fingers, or from a right cavity. A genjutsu would paralyze his body via his chakra that runs through his body, but with a puppet body (no CCS), his body would not be paralyzed. Basically, only the chakra in his heart would be distorted, but w/o a brain, no genjutsu would actually do anything. For those who know of ghost in the shell, consider cyberbrains- not physical brains you, but they are cybernetic computer brains. That which would work on a normal brain would not work on such a computer brain, thus to say genjutsu's work on a puppet is like saying one would work on a robot. Now this is not to insult readers, because I admit that it makes no sense. Sasori can stand in a cloud of gas and not die, since he doesn't breath. But w/o oxygen, how does his heart cells not die- w/o lungs, how is his heart sustained? He shouldn't be able to live. Same w/thinking w/o a brain- it doesn't make sense, but going strictly on the manga/anime that says that he only has a brain, I must say that he somehow thinks w/o a brain. Kishi perhaps needs a lesson in biology (or he should have explained Sasori's biological makeup), but the fact remains that people should take that up with him. My stance is that genjutsu's thus don't work on a puppet.
2. Everyone acts like the second Itachi pulls out susanoo, that it would be over for Sasori. Not so- poison gas & poison from smoke bombs CAN go through susanoo. This should be obvious- susanoo is only a chakra form, which is energy. Gas can go through it as it isn't solid. Air/gas has to pass through susanoo or else Itachi would suffocate. It isn't sealed. When Mei faces Sasuke, though his susanoo is incomplete, her acidic mist (gas) slips right pass the chakra of susanno and melts it's ribs. So yes, poison gas can go through susanoo. Everyone also forgets that Sasori has 2 rotary wind blades on either side of him, allowing him to fly. Thus he can easily fly outside of the range of Susanoo's sword, while dropping endless poison gas bombs on Itachi, until the entire battlefield is gassed. Some say itachi can hold his breath. It is implied that Itachi had TB, as he coughed up blood in his match against sasuke. TB=respiratory illness. He wouldn't be able to hold his breath for long. Some say he could do what Sakura did. Yet Chiyo said it was reckless- it's a miracle Sakura survived. Yet even though she did, she was unconscious after using an exploding tag. Chiyo had to nurse her back to consciousness- who would nurse itachi back to consciousness? And the second he went out of it, Susanoo would disperse
3. Everyone jumps on the Amaterasu bandwagon, yet this might be the worse possible thing Itachi could do. First, Iron sand can easily block ammy. Sasori can switch his heart into another puppet case in a split second, before Ammy burns the puppet completely. He could then attach puppet strings to the former Sasori (empty shell now ignited) and send it towards Itachi. Contrary to what many say, Ammy doesn't burn 'as hot as the sun,' i.e. burn anything to ashes automatically, as can be seen with the Samurai armor in the Land of Iron, and the Raikage's arm. Only if Itachi constantly focuses on an object will it burn quickly. With sasuke, sasuke himself was caught on fire then shed his skin, which is why it burned so quickly- the trees around the Uchiha hideout were caught on fire yet burned slowly- not even 1 tree burned down. And no, a sharingan cannot automatically locate Sasori's heart, since it's NOT the Byakugan (might be wrong here). So sasori wouldn't just burn to ashes quickly. Even more, imagine 100 puppets, all caught on black flames & with poison weapons, flying at you at once! If Itachi used ammy against the 100 puppets, then he might incinerate some of them, but would only ignite most of them- Sasori's 100 puppet jutsu would be 100x deadlier! Itachi would inevitably be caught on fire by his own flames (everyone forgets that the user of ammy is not immune to his own black flames). I assume that Itachi can put out his own flames (despite the fact that narutopedia says only sasuke can), but he would have to concentrate on putting out the flames engulfing him while not being re-ignited by more puppets flying at him. So he would probably be re-ignited by black flames. And during this time of he'd have to not be so much as scratched by 1 poison weapon. He'd have to resort to Susanoo to defend himself, which requires great strain. Ammy also can't burn chakra/chakra strings like some say (I don't think so, but like many things here, I could be wrong. Btw, this is my first post, so go easy on me. I'm humble enough to admit when i'm wrong:)
Even more, ,with Sasori flying with his wind blades, Itachi couldn't hit him if he flies high and is dropping poison gas bombs. It's like trying to hit a fly with a gun.
Itach's fire element jutsu's are mid-range. Not getting hit with poison needles is hard at close range while doing a jutsu (itachi couldn't dog 2 shuriken at mid range while about to do a jutsu), and IF sasori gets on fire, then he can switch bodies and send the ignited puppet at Itachi, or put the fire out with a water scroll jutsu.
Some say Itachi could just make shadow clones and sit back and study Sasori's movements- Sasori could also make sand clones and study Itahci's movements- both have a 5 rating of intelligence in the Naruto STATbook. Sasori is said to be slow by many, yet he has a 4.5 rating of speed in the stat book- faster than Kakuzu, as fast as Sasuke and Kakashi, and almost as fast as Itachi himself.
Even more, with Sasori in Hiruko, Itachi might try to use that MS genjutsu on Sasori, and thus would waste chakra before realizing that Sasori was a puppet that couldn't fall for genjutsu.
When one adds all of this together, one can see that Itachi in his sick state would not win against sasori- sasori, once again,, would be able to strike Itachi's Achilles heel. The stamina factor alone is Itachi's weakness against Sasori, such that Sasori would be able to control the match and use poison to win with relative ease. I'm neither a Sasori fan or an Itachi fan, so I readily admit that Itachi would probably win in his prime (not going blind, and not sick). Fan=fanatic, btw, and I'm not a fanatic of any character. I just think itachi is overrated and Sasori is underrated.
 

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Itachi vs Sasori

Sasori is literally the worse possible match for Itachi for 2 main reasons: his strengths are itachi's weaknesses. Itachi in his sick state would pose little match for Sasori.
As narutopedia states, Itachi's weakness is fighting prolonged matches against strong opponents. Since he can't do this, he resorts to strong genjutsu's to end a match quickly.
Sasori, as a puppet, has literally infinite stamina. Thus he can control the pace of the battle and outlast most opponents. He can prolong a match against sick itachi, until overuse of MS, or low stamina makes him succumb to his sickness, or until he simply passes out.
Itachi would have to resort to strong genjutsu's to end the match quickly, but this is a problem.

3 things almost everyone (including sasori fans) ignore when talking about him in vs. threads

1. Genjutsu's don't work on him. This has been long debated, but simply using the facts from the manga/anime, the fact is that he only has a heart. The real sasori is his heart. He doesn't have a brain IN his heart, like some say, because it is stated that he only has a heart/is a heart, not has his lungs, brain, spleen, stomach, liver, kidneys, etc. in his heart container. Without a brain, no genjutsu can work, since genjutsu's are illusionary images that use the physical brain of an opponent. Sasori also doesn’t have a normal Chakra circulation System (CCS). He only has a heart that projects chakra threads through his fingers, or from a right cavity. A genjutsu would paralyze his body via his chakra that runs through his body, but with a puppet body (no CCS), his body would not be paralyzed. Basically, only the chakra in his heart would be distorted, but w/o a brain, no genjutsu would actually do anything. For those who know of ghost in the shell, consider cyberbrains- not physical brains you, but they are cybernetic computer brains. That which would work on a normal brain would not work on such a computer brain, thus to say genjutsu's work on a puppet is like saying one would work on a robot. Now this is not to insult readers, because I admit that it makes no sense. Sasori can stand in a cloud of gas and not die, since he doesn't breath. But w/o oxygen, how does his heart cells not die- w/o lungs, how is his heart sustained? He shouldn't be able to live. Same w/thinking w/o a brain- it doesn't make sense, but going strictly on the manga/anime that says that he only has a brain, I must say that he somehow thinks w/o a brain. Kishi perhaps needs a lesson in biology (or he should have explained Sasori's biological makeup), but the fact remains that people should take that up with him. My stance is that genjutsu's thus don't work on a puppet.
2. Everyone acts like the second Itachi pulls out susanoo, that it would be over for Sasori. Not so- poison gas & poison from smoke bombs CAN go through susanoo. This should be obvious- susanoo is only a chakra form, which is energy. Gas can go through it as it isn't solid. Air/gas has to pass through susanoo or else Itachi would suffocate. It isn't sealed. When Mei faces Sasuke, though his susanoo is incomplete, her acidic mist (gas) slips right pass the chakra of susanno and melts it's ribs. So yes, poison gas can go through susanoo. Everyone also forgets that Sasori has 2 rotary wind blades on either side of him, allowing him to fly. Thus he can easily fly outside of the range of Susanoo's sword, while dropping endless poison gas bombs on Itachi, until the entire battlefield is gassed. Some say itachi can hold his breath. It is implied that Itachi had TB, as he coughed up blood in his match against sasuke. TB=respiratory illness. He wouldn't be able to hold his breath for long. Some say he could do what Sakura did. Yet Chiyo said it was reckless- it's a miracle Sakura survived. Yet even though she did, she was unconscious after using an exploding tag. Chiyo had to nurse her back to consciousness- who would nurse itachi back to consciousness? And the second he went out of it, Susanoo would disperse
3. Everyone jumps on the Amaterasu bandwagon, yet this might be the worse possible thing Itachi could do. First, Iron sand can easily block ammy. Sasori can switch his heart into another puppet case in a split second, before Ammy burns the puppet completely. He could then attach puppet strings to the former Sasori (empty shell now ignited) and send it towards Itachi. Contrary to what many say, Ammy doesn't burn 'as hot as the sun,' i.e. burn anything to ashes automatically, as can be seen with the Samurai armor in the Land of Iron, and the Raikage's arm. Only if Itachi constantly focuses on an object will it burn quickly. With sasuke, sasuke himself was caught on fire then shed his skin, which is why it burned so quickly- the trees around the Uchiha hideout were caught on fire yet burned slowly- not even 1 tree burned down. And no, a sharingan cannot automatically locate Sasori's heart, since it's NOT the Byakugan (might be wrong here). So sasori wouldn't just burn to ashes quickly. Even more, imagine 100 puppets, all caught on black flames & with poison weapons, flying at you at once! If Itachi used ammy against the 100 puppets, then he might incinerate some of them, but would only ignite most of them- Sasori's 100 puppet jutsu would be 100x deadlier! Itachi would inevitably be caught on fire by his own flames (everyone forgets that the user of ammy is not immune to his own black flames). I assume that Itachi can put out his own flames (despite the fact that narutopedia says only sasuke can), but he would have to concentrate on putting out the flames engulfing him while not being re-ignited by more puppets flying at him. So he would probably be re-ignited by black flames. And during this time of he'd have to not be so much as scratched by 1 poison weapon. He'd have to resort to Susanoo to defend himself, which requires great strain. Ammy also can't burn chakra/chakra strings like some say (I don't think so, but like many things here, I could be wrong. Btw, this is my first post, so go easy on me. I'm humble enough to admit when i'm wrong:)
Even more, ,with Sasori flying with his wind blades, Itachi couldn't hit him if he flies high and is dropping poison gas bombs. It's like trying to hit a fly with a gun.
Itach's fire element jutsu's are mid-range. Not getting hit with poison needles is hard at close range while doing a jutsu (itachi couldn't dog 2 shuriken at mid range while about to do a jutsu), and IF sasori gets on fire, then he can switch bodies and send the ignited puppet at Itachi, or put the fire out with a water scroll jutsu.
Some say Itachi could just make shadow clones and sit back and study Sasori's movements- Sasori could also make sand clones and study Itahci's movements- both have a 5 rating of intelligence in the Naruto STATbook. Sasori is said to be slow by many, yet he has a 4.5 rating of speed in the stat book- faster than Kakuzu, as fast as Sasuke and Kakashi, and almost as fast as Itachi himself.
Even more, with Sasori in Hiruko, Itachi might try to use that MS genjutsu on Sasori, and thus would waste chakra before realizing that Sasori was a puppet that couldn't fall for genjutsu.
When one adds all of this together, one can see that Itachi in his sick state would not win against sasori- sasori, once again,, would be able to strike Itachi's Achilles heel. The stamina factor alone is Itachi's weakness against Sasori, such that Sasori would be able to control the match and use poison to win with relative ease. I'm neither a Sasori fan or an Itachi fan, so I readily admit that Itachi would probably win in his prime (not going blind, and not sick). Fan=fanatic, btw, and I'm not a fanatic of any character. I just think itachi is overrated and Sasori is underrated.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
you could also just say itachi wins this one. lol
i mean you gotta hit yourself if you say sasori lol:flaw:
 

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Please REFUTE what is written- syaing 'Itachi wins' isn't an argument, it's a biased opinion with nothing to back it up. MANY ITachi fans who actually read the analysis agree, in changing theri opinion. Please refute it, point by point. If i'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and i do beleive that sick Itachi would die in the process of 'defeating' Sasori, making ti a tie.
Why can't people refute things instead of stating biased opinions?

Sick Itachi winning. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
 
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