Itachi vs Sage Madara (just read)

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Trying to prove your point by calling someone names is childish and petty. You can be a genius and still not be as great as others.
I never said he would beat madara. Of course he can't however I truly believe he is more intelligent
 

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Before he finish planning, madara would have cast infinite tsukoyomi
 

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I think Itachi is more intelligent than Madara. Itachi even at a young age seems more wise and a genius than 100 year old madara.

lol then how come Itachi wasn't smart enough to gain enough power and quell all the conflicts like Kaguya did with her people or prevent war by backstabbing Obito?


Knowledge is power, and Madara obtained near-omnipotence from his own knowledge. Best part is, any Uchiha is capable of gaining the same power, yet Itachi didn't.
 
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Orochimaru, Tobirama, and Kakashi > Itachi in intellect.

no the hell they are not...obito had kamui back when itachi was alive yet he still never attacked konoha while itachi was alive and he feared itachi so that means itachi knew how to beat obito and it took kakakshi the whole war to figure out how to hit obito with help form naruto and gai...



and tobirama created jutsu's and oro studies, itachi figures out ways to beat everyone, his strategies come to him faster than they do shikamaru and shikamaru is smarter than kakashi
 

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Trying to prove your point by calling someone names is childish and petty. You can be a genius and still not be as great as others.



Not at all. They are above him. Tell me something Itachi has done to put him on Oro's level of intelligence?
guess who discovered the sword of totsuka first? :D
 

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lol then how come Itachi wasn't smart enough to gain enough power and quell all the conflicts like Kaguya did with her people or prevent war by backstabbing Obito?

well itachi was terminally ill so that would have stopped him, adn he was going blind so that would have stoppe dhim and the akatsuki consists of more than obito and itachi and i think if itachi attack a member of the akatsuki i dnt think the akatsuki would let a traitor continue to live, oro did it and he hid for years...
 

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guess who discovered the sword of totsuka first? :D

He found a sword? Guess who created his own dimension, made a new entity for himself, and bypassed the laws of humans? Those feats are greater than finding a sword.
 

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lol then how come Itachi wasn't smart enough to gain enough power and quell all the conflicts like Kaguya did with her people or prevent war by backstabbing Obito?


Knowledge is power, and Madara obtained god like powers from his own knowledge
Dude Itachi had insane amounts of potential. He sacrificed all that for his village, his brother, and the shinobi world. If he truly was the evil psychopath we thought he was, he couldv'e easily mind**** and make sasuke form MS just to take it and acquire EMS. Itachi's only weakness was his lack of chakra and stamina which could've easily been solved by injecting himself hashirama dna. If itachi wasn't a hero I truly think he could've easily surpassed Madara and maybe even Hashirama. However the reason itachi is my fav character was because of his sacrifice and ideals.
 

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well itachi was terminally ill so that would have stopped him, adn he was going blind so that would have stoppe dhim and the akatsuki consists of more than obito and itachi and i think if itachi attack a member of the akatsuki i dnt think the akatsuki would let a traitor continue to live, oro did it and he hid for years...

I'm sure being as smart as people claim, he could have figured something out. He's a ninja after all....the whole point of it is being subtle. So if he can't achieve killing his unsuspecting target, then you can't say he's that great or that intelligent in comparison to Madara.
 

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Dude Itachi had insane amounts of potential. He sacrificed all that for his village, his brother, and the shinobi world. If he truly was the evil psychopath we thought he was, he couldv'e easily mind**** and make sasuke form MS just to take it and acquire EMS. Itachi's only weakness was his lack of chakra and stamina which could've easily been solved by injecting himself hashirama dna. If itachi wasn't a hero I truly think he could've easily surpassed Madara and maybe even Hashirama.

So what you're telling me is that he wasn't smart enough to inject Hashirama DNA? I agree


If he had potential enough to rival Madara's power, he wouldn't have needed to sacrifice everything, kill his own clan, and ruin his brother's life. If he obtained rikudou mode or even the rinnegan, he could have easily stopped the Uchiha rebellion without the need to kill.


Madara was able to fight an army easily with only Katon, taijutsu, Susanoo. Itachi has all three....yet he can't defeat the Uchiha and one village.
 

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The title is misleading. Itachi probably would've tried to formulate some kind of plan, but the minute Madara became Juubi Jin it would've been useless I assume.
 

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Sooo itachi is a b**** *** n****? Is that what your saying? And that he ran away from gai cause he knew he would lose..... that actually make sense.
 
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So what you're telling me is that he wasn't smart enough to inject Hashirama DNA? I agree


If he had potential enough to rival Madara's power, he wouldn't have needed to sacrifice everything, kill his own clan, and ruin his brother's life. If he obtained rikudou mode or even the rinnegan, he could have easily stopped the Uchiha rebellion without the need to kill.

Damn its pointless arguing with you guys. What i'm saying is that he had the intelligence, power, and potential to do all those things and surpass madara but he didnt BECAUSE he sacrificed his life. It's retarded if u still dont understand WHY he killed his clan...
 

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He found a sword? Guess who created his own dimension, made a new entity for himself, and bypassed the laws of humans? Those feats are greater than finding a sword.

You said "Tell me something Itachi has done to put him on Oro's level of intelligence?" Its not a sword... it's "The Sword". Not to mention "The Shield". The guys level of thinking is praised by even the smartest of all shinobis. Kabuto who studies alongside Orochimaru and even perfected a technique that Oro could not was dwarfed by Itachi's Intelligence. There is more to creating jutsus and discovering stuff that makes you smart. Its about tatics too. Shikamaru is considered top ten most intelligent in the manga, yet he has no aces up his sleeves besides his mind.
 

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Madara rolfstomps Itachi , and even Itachi's most powerful Jutsu : Tsukuyomi won't work cause Itachi himself said it doesn't work on an Uchiha with an MS+ ( and he confirmed it in the Kabuto fight ) , let alone someone like Madara.
 

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Madara rolfstomps Itachi , and even Itachi's most powerful Jutsu : Tsukuyomi won't work cause Itachi himself said it doesn't work on an Uchiha with an MS+ ( and he confirmed it in the Kabuto fight ) , let alone someone like Madara.

True but it would probably work to some extents not nullified. He used it on Sasuke to repel the sound genjutsu. I don't think it is his most powerful Jutsu, that would probably be Amateratsu but it depends on what you mean by powerful.
 

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True but it would probably work to some extents not nullified. He used it on Sasuke to repel the sound genjutsu. I don't think it is his most powerful Jutsu, that would probably be Amateratsu but it depends on what you mean by powerful.

Madara is an Uchiha legend with 100 years of experience , knows everything about the Uchiha tablet , has the best Dojutsu , the best Sage Mode , Senju DNA and a near Perfect Juubi.

Also no , Itachi isn't good at Amaterasu like Sasuke.
 

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Madara is an Uchiha legend with 100 years of experience , knows everything about the Uchiha tablet , has the best Dojutsu , the best Sage Mode , Senju DNA and a near Perfect Juubi.

Also no , Itachi isn't good at Amaterasu like Sasuke.
Ik but it is the strongest offensive move. thats why I said it depends on what you mean by powerful. The most powerful man in the word may not even have an ounce of muscle.
 

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If itachi was smart he would of begged oro to fix him up an antidote for his aids. Also itachi is stupid he thought obito was madara haha he got trolled XD
 
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