Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Pain

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 57 11.6%

  • Total voters
    490
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Mark Uzumaki

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Why are you ( pain fans & itachi fans ) still arguing about Tsukyomi , even if it affects him , I proved he can defend against it , read previous posts ( Guy can be affected by it , but he won't give Itachi chance to use , Pain/Nagato does the same as I already stated in my previous posts )

After looking at it again , Dead bodies have no mind for Tsukyomi to work just like Sasori
 

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look at my post that should be clear enough for you
your arguement is biast and leaves a lot of things out like your friend avr
your argument is based on nothing. nagato isn't even proven to have those blocks inside of him. plus inoichia was able to break them.

itachi easily could.

your nagato is immune to genjutsu argument has been proven wrong many times
 

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I never said it was, i just said that no matter what technique the sharingan cast, the rinnegan user wud still most likely
anyway madara with s/t would likely win. what would rinnegan do against him absorbing nagato. And its easy for madara to just become intangible to any attacks nagato throws at him.
 

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Why are you ( pain fans & itachi fans ) still arguing about Tsukyomi , even if it affects him , I proved he can defend against it , read previous posts ( Guy can be affected by it , but he won't give Itachi chance to use , Pain/Nagato does the same as I already stated in my previous posts )

After looking at it again , Dead bodies have no mind for Tsukyomi to work just like Sasori


yeah he can't use his genjutsu on the pains. it's almost pointless
 

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Heck, even Deidara was able to get out of Sasuke's basic genjutsu, remember in their fight how he trained his eye to see through genjutsu as a counter for Itachi. If Deidara can handle that much, than any genjutsu itachi uses that is less than Tsukiyomi or koto Amatsukami is trivial, and preta path and deva path together is more than enough for Amaterasu, and for ppl who say sword of totsuka is fast, the first time he used it was on 7 branch orchiboy, if you couldn't hit him blindfolded with a broken slingshot, you fail at life.

The second time he used it, was during a huge explosion, so Nagato couldn't see it at the time. This leads me to believe that it has quite the start up time, and isn't the laser beam of death ppl think it is, if it was so fast, than why didn't Itachi use it the moment he was free from edo tensei?

Any takers on this one right here?
 
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your argument is based on nothing. nagato isn't even proven to have those blocks inside of him. plus inoichia was able to break them.

itachi easily could.

your nagato is immune to genjutsu argument has been proven wrong many times
ok look at my post im not answering your questions you have been proven wrong and yet you keep talking to me like i didnt just prove you wrong just like that avr guy i repeat the same points and over to you and you dont get it nagato has genjutsu blocks and can cast genjutsu traps and every single person we have seen in the whole manga with genjutsu has always broken out of another persons genjutsu its an unwritten rule so your telling me a person with the strongest eye type with the abilty to use genjutsu is not able to counter a genjutsu from a lower eye type ill leave it at that i cannot make it any clearer then that refer to this post if your trying to argue
 

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Heck, even Deidara was able to get out of Sasuke's basic genjutsu, remember in their fight how he trained his eye to see through genjutsu as a counter for Itachi. If Deidara can handle that much, than any genjutsu itachi uses that is less than Tsukiyomi or koto Amatsukami is trivial, and preta path and deva path together is more than enough for Amaterasu, and for ppl who say sword of totsuka is fast, the first time he used it was on 7 branch orchiboy, if you couldn't hit him blindfolded with a broken slingshot, you fail at life.

The second time he used it, was during a huge explosion, so Nagato couldn't see it at the time. This leads me to believe that it has quite the start up time, and isn't the laser beam of death ppl think it is, if it was so fast, than why didn't Itachi use it the moment he was free from edo tensei?

Any takers on this one right here?
he didn't use it becus he used amaterasu instead and does not take quite a load up time go see sasuke vs itachi it was pretty fast(not instant but fast) Itachi is better than sasuke in genjutsu anyday, danzo says it and even madara says it. The swod of totsuka is pretty fast it got nagato and oro pretty fast but that is my opinion. i gotta go can't use my family computer forever.
 

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anyway madara with s/t would likely win. what would rinnegan do against him absorbing nagato. And its easy for madara to just become intangible to any attacks nagato throws at him.
LMAO u make no sense! Its not that easy, how wud Madara get near Pain? Pain cud just shinra tensei, if what ur saying is the case why didnt Madara just absorb everyone in the 5 kage summit and get rid of all the kages? LOL
 

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ok look at my post im not answering your questions you have been proven wrong and yet you keep talking to me like i didnt just prove you wrong just like that avr guy i repeat the same points and over to you and you dont get it nagato has genjutsu blocks and can cast genjutsu traps and every single person we have seen in the whole manga with genjutsu has always broken out of another persons genjutsu its an unwritten rule so your telling me a person with the strongest eye type with the abilty to use genjutsu is not able to counter a genjutsu from a lower eye type ill leave it at that i cannot make it any clearer then that refer to this post if your trying to argue


just face it dude rinnegan isn't and never was immune to genjutsu.

he is not proven to have these blocks inside himself. even if he does it's useless evan inoichiai broke them.

yes rinnegan is the strogest eye. but it is never said to possess the ability to counter genjutsu. only the sharingan has that tech.


until you can find me the page where it is said rinnegan can counter genjutsu, unfortunatley you can't use it as an argument mate

tsukuyomi- period
 

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he didn't use it becus he used amaterasu instead and does not take quite a load up time go see sasuke vs itachi it was pretty fast(not instant but fast) Itachi is better than sasuke in genjutsu anyday, danzo says it and even madara says it. The swod of totsuka is pretty fast it got nagato and oro pretty fast but that is my opinion. i gotta go can't use my family computer forever.
He didn't use it because at first he had to summon Susan, first stage of Susan takes time, and truthfully it may even be possible for preta path to absorb Susan seeing as the Manga clearly states that path can Absorb ALL NINJUTSU, if that is the case then Itachi has no hope whatsoever, This is a fight Itachi can not win
 

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LMAO u make no sense! Its not that easy, how wud Madara get near Pain? Pain cud just shinra tensei, if what ur saying is the case why didnt Madara just absorb everyone in the 5 kage summit and get rid of all the kages? LOL
i didn't mean to say easy, but he would win, if he uses shinra tensei he just turns intngible he can go anywhere from under the ground, behind or anywhere he could go behind him and absorb him. 5 kages is way too hard cos its 5 on 1 he would get hit as he trying to absorb someone else can attack him and A is way too fast. but he can beat nagato 1v1 he can absorb him cos nagato is not fast and none of his attacks works becus he just turns intangible and he can go near him and absorb him in 1-2 seconds. And you're forgetting nagato has a time limit, he can turn intangible instantly when he uses shinra and absorb him.
 
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He didn't use it because at first he had to summon Susan, first stage of Susan takes time, and truthfully it may even be possible for preta path to absorb Susan seeing as the Manga clearly states that path can Absorb ALL NINJUTSU, if that is the case then Itachi has no hope whatsoever, This is a fight Itachi can not win
first stage takes time no it doesn't look at sasuke vs itachi he released it immediately and blocked kirin
 

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i didn't mean to say easy, but he would win, if he uses shinra tensei he just turns intngible he can go anywhere from under the ground, behind or anywhere he could go behind him and absorb him. 5 kages is way too hard cos its 5 on 1 he would get hit as he trying to absorb someone else A is way too fast. but he can beat nagato 1v1 he can absorb him cos nagato is not fast and none of his attacks works becus he just turns intangible and he can go near him and absorb him in 1-2 seconds.
Not to be rude, but this isn't Madara vs Pain, ppl talking about this need to make another thread, that is all ppl
 

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just face it dude rinnegan isn't and never was immune to genjutsu.

he is not proven to have these blocks inside himself. even if he does it's useless evan inoichiai broke them.

yes rinnegan is the strogest eye. but it is never said to possess the ability to counter genjutsu. only the sharingan has that tech.


until you can find me the page where it is said rinnegan can counter genjutsu, unfortunatley you can't use it as an argument mate

tsukuyomi- period
didn't people prove you wrong on the other thread of that tsukuyomi
why are you guys still goin for everyone in the naruto world except uchiha can break that jutsu,itachi put false info in that statment, itachi said that to make sasuke feel like it was his destiny to bring him down,might as well say itachi was serious about getting sasuke eyes too and trying to kill sasuke.
 
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