Itachi vs Pain

[deidara senpai]

with regards to the tsukuyomi I meant that instead of using one 72 hour tsukuyomi. He could use three separate 24 hour ones instead. In this way he could cast 3 tsukuyomi at the cost of one.

but perhaps you're right. Pain is likely to win

oooh thats what you ment my bad for not understanding lol

well i think we would have saw him use that earlier before idt he can

 

[Izanami]

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Kakashi didnt Survive Tsikiyomi, Clearly he spared his life, and EVen Kakashi said "Why didnt he Just Kill me" (Itachi never wanted to kill anybody) SO that proves he couldve killed Kakashi, but itachi ended it.

And i dont think Nagatos Chakra is bigger than NAruto's. It might, it might not. especially since naruto has the fox too.

And kakashi was already in Tsukiyomi when he told them not to look.
Like Kakashi looked at itachi eyes then kakashi got all riled up and started screaming "DONT LOOK AT HIS EYES" Kakashi was already caught and he knew it, thats why he told them to close their eyes, so they wont suffer the same fate. You can obviously see When kakashi looked at itachis eyes, YOu saw kakashi's reaction.

irregardless he has 3 shots with it and it works on one person each thime and it would be pointless because you cant torture a dead body all this time deva path has flew off into the air and is charging his shinra tensei so tell me how your genjutsu would work?

 

[Shamami]

why argue with itachi fanboys your being dragged towards there level and you will slowly begin to sound like them look at the poll results itachi is winning vs A healthy Nagato with his 6 paths anyone with half a brain cell can tell who would win but hes winning in the poll its all bias and you responding to them just fuels them thinking itachi is better your giving them attention and children crave attention as long as the logical people know who would win the opnions of a brain dead fanboys dont matter that to much to me

So obvious ur such nagato biased urself

 

[kadowade]

all tht is piontles seeing as tht nagato can cut off chakra going 2 the body. tsukyomi wud be canceled becuz it only works on functioning chakra in brain.

How would he be able to cut off the Chakra, if he's already shitting his pants in Tsukiyomi. YOu can't do anything in Tskiyomi, And plus its ONLY A Second, and nagato would be dead from Tsukiyomi in a second. And nagato wouldnt even have time to cut off the chakra. Because in reality, Tsukiyomi is an Instant Death.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

with regards to the tsukuyomi I meant that instead of using one 72 hour tsukuyomi. He could use three separate 24 hour ones instead. In this way he could cast 3 tsukuyomi at the cost of one.

but perhaps you're right. Pain is likely to win

Pain has 2 be close 2 Nagato as possible 2 perform YA. Itachi wud follow him with Susano'o present after using Amateratsu 2 kill Naraka n Animal, Tsukuyomi 2 kill Human n Asura n Susano'o 2 take care of Pretha.(All this happens about d same time). When Deva is close enough Itachi wud look 4 d highest place close 2 Deva. After he figures it out he wud go and cast a genjutsu on Nagato while Chikudan Tensei forms.

 

[kadowade]

irregardless he has 3 shots with it and it works on one person each thime and it would be pointless because you cant torture a dead body all this time deva path has flew off into the air and is charging his shinra tensei so tell me how your genjutsu would work?

It will effect the MIND Which is NAGATO.

 

[Izanami]

How would he be able to cut off the Chakra, if he's already shitting his pants in Tsukiyomi. YOu can't do anything in Tskiyomi, And plus its ONLY A Second, and nagato would be dead from Tsukiyomi in a second. And nagato wouldnt even have time to cut off the chakra. Because in reality, Tsukiyomi is an Instant Death.

you cant torture a dead body but if were talking about real Nagato we have no proof either way that visual genjutsu works so you cant say yeah hes in genjutsu and hes called pain he would probably enjoy it

 

[captainEO]

that is riddiclous you know that but the last sentance is the most sense you have made in this thread

but don't underestimate Itachi, he'll surprise you. it's still a close match

I doubt it works like that, whether or not someone was made to experience 1 hour or 72 hours, Tsukiyomi is Tsukiyomi, there's no way to use a weak Tsukiyomi

that can't be true. which susano'o would take more of Sasuke's chakra - raikage fight version or kakashi fight version. I think the length of tsukuyomi does dictate amount of chakra needed/used

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

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Kakashi didnt Survive Tsikiyomi, Clearly he spared his life, and EVen Kakashi said "Why didnt he Just Kill me" (Itachi never wanted to kill anybody) SO that proves he couldve killed Kakashi, but itachi ended it.

And i dont think Nagatos Chakra is bigger than NAruto's. It might, it might not. especially since naruto has the fox too.

And kakashi was already in Tsukiyomi when he told them not to look.
Like Kakashi looked at itachi eyes then kakashi got all riled up and started screaming "DONT LOOK AT HIS EYES" Kakashi was already caught and he knew it, thats why he told them to close their eyes, so they wont suffer the same fate. You can obviously see When kakashi looked at itachis eyes, YOu saw kakashi's reaction.

Look to point is tha Itachi survived it that long.any longer and he would of died
He didnt.


Nagato's pains feel Know pain Visual jutstu is Chakra that goes to the brains Nurvus system and manipulate that persons thought, touch, pain, ect. The pains are moved by chakra signls through rods. Thats why animal path wasnt effected by scareface Genjutsu

 

[Izanami]

It will effect the MIND Which is NAGATO.

that doesnt even make any sense

 

[captainEO]

Pain has 2 be close 2 Nagato as possible 2 perform YA. Itachi wud follow him with Susano'o present after using Amateratsu 2 kill Naraka n Animal, Tsukuyomi 2 kill Human n Asura n Susano'o 2 take care of Pretha.(All this happens about d same time). When Deva is close enough Itachi wud look 4 d highest place close 2 Deva. After he figures it out he wud go and cast a genjutsu on Nagato while Chikudan Tensei forms.

well I don't know. people keep confusing me. in fact you're right Itachi has to win most people seem to think so, this match is his

then again I'm tired of arguing and it's quite late and I'm sleepy

see you later folks

 

[Retsu]

It will effect the MIND Which is NAGATO.

It was said that Jaraiya's jutsu was specially made to bind the Psyche, that is basically your mind, when Jaraiya's jutsu was used, only three ppl were in the cube with the frogs, Nagato was not there, so that argument is invalid, Tsukiyomi isn't a whole lot better, in this situation it's worse because it only last a second, and tendo's have there own Pseudo-mind.

A tendo would only be immobilized for a second, I highly doubt mental stress is enough to stop a tendo, you have to kill it physically, one second is barely enough time to stop one, and if he were to use Amaterasu right after, he'd drain all of his chakra, and as I said before, Tendo are chakra controlled bodies, Tsukiyomi isn't the one hitter quitter you think it is, Itachi can not defeat Nagato 6pop alone, not possible

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

And water-style techniques he used on kakashi

It was B-rank justu at best

 

[deidara senpai]

well I don't know. people keep confusing me. in fact you're right Itachi has to win most people seem to think so, this match is his

then again I'm tired of arguing and it's quite late and I'm sleepy

see you later folks

agreed i stated why nagato or pain would win im out of here

 

[kadowade]

you cant torture a dead body but if were talking about real Nagato we have no proof either way that visual genjutsu works so you cant say yeah hes in genjutsu and hes called pain he would probably enjoy it

He will enjoy it, But will Die.
And rinnegan dosent say its immune to ANY Genjutsu, SO Genjutsu works.

And one you nagato fans said Kabuto edo tensei worked on him and yall said it was a genjutsu, So shouldnt the rinnegan Counter that........It didnt.
So ANY genjutsu works, since the rinnegan isnt immune to genjutsu.

Only theSage of Six paths rinnegan can counter genjutsu..
NAgato is ONly 1 Path, so his rinnegan is FAR inferior to the So6P. The sage of 6 paths was "6 PAths" Nagato is only "1" path. nagato dont posses Uchiha and Senju dna like so6p, otherwise Nagato woulde have Izanagi,like the so6p.
Only the so6p had Genjutsu powers to tame the 10 tails. Nagato dosentm otherwise he would've EASILY tamed the 9 tails (naruto).

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

It was said that Jaraiya's jutsu was specially made to bind the Psyche, that is basically your mind, when Jaraiya's jutsu was used, only three ppl were in the cube with the frogs, Nagato was not there, so that argument is invalid, Tsukiyomi isn't a whole lot better, in this situation it's worse because it only last a second, and tendo's have there own Pseudo-mind.

A tendo would only be immobilized for a second, I highly doubt mental stress is enough to stop a tendo, you have to kill it physically, one second is barely enough time to stop one, and if he were to use Amaterasu right after, he'd drain all of his chakra, and as I said before, Tendo are chakra controlled bodies, Tsukiyomi isn't the one hitter quitter you think it is, Itachi can not defeat Nagato 6pop alone, not possible

+4 reps

Like Jiraiya did he stuck a sword in him after he owned the other pains

 

[Jokule67]

How would he be able to cut off the Chakra, if he's already shitting his pants in Tsukiyomi. YOu can't do anything in Tskiyomi, And plus its ONLY A Second, and nagato would be dead from Tsukiyomi in a second. And nagato wouldnt even have time to cut off the chakra. Because in reality, Tsukiyomi is an Instant Death.

i still dont think the brains are intertwined in tht case he can control them without chakra rods. but the chakra rods are all over the body even on the face meaning he doesnt use their brains 2 control them. he uses chakra and chakra rods. if nagato was in genjutsu it wud have shown him also in there but he wasnt and nor were the other bodies u say are intertwined by brain

IT DOES NOT AFFECT NAGATO

 

[Retsu]

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Like Jiraiya did he stuck a sword in him after he owned the other pains

Many thanx, I'm just out here stating facts, and debating with Itachi fans I can do all day, it's all in fun though, I just want ppl to realize that in the manga, Nagato was not using his full capabilities

 

[kadowade]

It was said that Jaraiya's jutsu was specially made to bind the Psyche, that is basically your mind, when Jaraiya's jutsu was used, only three ppl were in the cube with the frogs, Nagato was not there, so that argument is invalid, Tsukiyomi isn't a whole lot better, in this situation it's worse because it only last a second, and tendo's have there own Pseudo-mind.

A tendo would only be immobilized for a second, I highly doubt mental stress is enough to stop a tendo, you have to kill it physically, one second is barely enough time to stop one, and if he were to use Amaterasu right after, he'd drain all of his chakra, and as I said before, Tendo are chakra controlled bodies, Tsukiyomi isn't the one hitter quitter you think it is, Itachi can not defeat Nagato 6pop alone, not possible

Until it sais Genjutsu Dosen't affect the Real Nagato, (Since the mind behind the bodies are nagato) We cant say. But if it dosent, then the bodies might beat itachi.... But if it does effect the Mind (Nagato) then Itachi might win.

 

[Retsu]

Until it sais Genjutsu Dosen't affect the Real Nagato, (Since the mind behind the bodies are nagato) We cant say. But if it dosent, then the bodies might beat itachi.... But if it does effect the Mind (Nagato) then Itachi might win.

It may affect Nagato, but the bodies minds are separate, think about it, how can Tsukiyomi kill what isn't alive? And I already said that Jaraiya's sage mode jutsu binds the mind specifically, if it was possible to reach Nagato's mind from the tendo through the genjutsu, then all 6 tendo and Nagato should have been binded, he has to catch them one at a time, good luck with that when 6 paths are all bearing down on you