Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Pain

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 57 11.6%

  • Total voters
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Izanami

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Rinnegan isnt Sharingan so it cant, JUST ACCEPT IT.
Its already stated that ONLY an uchiha with a tomoe sharingan AND the same bloodline limit as itachi can counter Tsukiyomi
(Sasuke fufilled that statement)
You keep denying the facts, Its already stated. No point in trying make up stuff.

Rinnegan has its OWN certain techniques that it can Only do
Byakugan has its OWN certain techniques it can DO
Sharingan has its OWN certain techniques it can only do.

And dont say that "Their all related" even though they are. So you saying Neji can DO sHinra Tensei..........So you saying nagato can do Tsukiyomi.......... So if you dont get it by now......you need help.
twisting what im saying again to suit what your trying to say if the uzumakis are related to the ucichas then thats his blood your wrong but your itachi addled brain cant accept it
 

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Its a lie because hes stating facts and your itachi fan biased brain cant handle it show me a manga page where his tysukami works on more than 1 person ? thats right you cant
You show me where it is said that Tsukuyomi can't affect Nagato. That's right u can't!! So I just show u basic logi that shows it can be casted on more than one person and ur brain can't comprehend cos d only thing there is NAGATO!!!
 

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face what that your a fanboy who makes up facts to suit his own agenda show me where it says clearly everything else apart from shisuis genjutsu doesnt work on edo summons oh you can lol
Lmao wow. .Look at the link. It clearly said "TheresOnly one Genjutsu Strong enough to do this, Shisui uchiha's Kotoamatsukami"

Theres nothing you can say about that, like seriously, I didnt just make stuff up, Like you been doing.
 

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You show me where it is said that Tsukuyomi can't affect Nagato. That's right u can't!! So I just show u basic logi that shows it can be casted on more than one person and ur brain can't comprehend cos d only thing there is NAGATO!!!
you show me where it says it can also tell me why itachi didnt use at the start vs Nagato when genjustu works your only defence is genjutsu agsainst 6 boies that wouldnt be standing still 3 tsyukamis and he runs out of chakra and yje deva path is in the sky charging his shinra tensei itachis dead next please?
 

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Lmao wow. .Look at the link. It clearly said "TheresOnly one Genjutsu Strong enough to do this, Shisui uchiha's Kotoamatsukami"

Theres nothing you can say about that, like seriously, I didnt just make stuff up, Like you been doing.
again twisting facts 1 genjustu to change a persons mind without them realising it so your wrong again.
 

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ok i had enough listen well people im telling you six paths of pain or nagato wins heres why

(ill be doing this with itachis techs)

elements:
itachis fire element will be useless for 3 ways
1.preta path
2.nagatos shield
3.water element (nagato posses it jiraiya said he mastered every element by age 10 so he has to have some water tech that will beat fireball)
hello, hello deidara senpai:)

Well Itachi too knows water style jutsu and is a master in it you could imagine since he spent years with Kisame.
You also forget Itachi has yata mirror which can block ANY attack

genjutsu:
is useless against pain (itachis is at least)

1.itachis genjutsu he can use on one path another one can just break him out and we all know that he cant spam or use tsukiomi 6 times in a fight
2.animal path he summons animals almost every battle he can have one of them break him out of it
People seem to think that tsukuyomi has to last for 72 hours it doesn't. He can halve it or split it into three so instead of one 72 hour it could be three 24 hour ones or four 18 hour ones. so that's 4 tsukuyomi for the cost of one. tskuyomi lasts a second and no one can break you out of it

Animal paths are useless because of Amaterasu and totsuka.

chibaku tensei: ok heres where things get long

if nagato/deva uses chibaku tensei itachi will die heres why

people claim amatarasu can stop the ball but it cant heres why

1.when bee naruto and itachi were in it itachi said to use their best range attack
2. amatarasu is a range attack and its his fastest
3.itachi used yata (i forgot the rest) whatever its called with
4.susano wears your body out more than amatarasu
5.itachi knew how to stop it so he could of knew to use amatarasu

with all these reasons why wouldnt itachi uses amatarasu

its simple cause its not strong enough to do it

i really hope this awakens your eyes why nagato/pain will beat itachi
Solution to deva is genjutsu. Deva is the first Itachi should attack. Also chibaku tensei is almost self-sacrifice seeing as though all the other paths might die as a result. And if it comes to it I'm pretty sure Itachi can just use 3 yasaka magatamas to destroy chibaku tensei
 
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Jokule n Izanami read this
When they were going 2 save Gaara Kakashi told them not 2 look into his eyes. Chiyo said a normal visual genjutsu can be countered by d caster casting ONLY 1 PERSON while d other goes 2 d back and knocks d other out but then Kakashi said this is no ordinary genjutsu. It was Itachi Uchiha's genjutsu even when he said he cudn't use MS(Tsukuyomi) they still cudn't look at his eyes. ALL OF THEM!!
 

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hello, hello

Well Itachi too knows water style jutsu and is a master in it you could imagine since he spent years with Kisame.
You also forget Itachi has yata mirror which can block ANY attack



People seem to think that tsukuyomi has to last for 72 hours it doesn't. He can halve it or split it into three so instead of one 72 hour it could be three 24 hour ones or four 18 hour ones. so that's 4 tsukuyomi for the cost of one.

Animal paths are useless because of Amaterasu and totsuka. tskuyomi lasts a second and no one can break you out of it



Solution to deva is genjutsu. Deva is the first Itachi should attack. Also chibaku tensei is almost self-sacrifice seeing as though all the other paths might die as a result. And if it comes to it I'm pretty sure Itachi can just use 3 yasaka magatamas to destroy chibaku tensei
genjutsu does not affect nagato. he can control other bodies while 1 body is in genjutsu meaning he can counter fast and fatally. if genjutsu affected nagato thru brain linkage nagato wud be dead from when jariya stabbed tht path while in genjutsu.
 

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Jokule n Izanami read this
When they were going 2 save Gaara Kakashi told them not 2 look into his eyes. Chiyo said a normal visual genjutsu can be countered by d caster casting ONLY 1 PERSON while d other goes 2 d back and knocks d other out but then Kakashi said this is no ordinary genjutsu. It was Itachi Uchiha's genjutsu even when he said he cudn't use MS(Tsukuyomi) they still cudn't look at his eyes. ALL OF THEM!!
Right your Tsyikami effects one person at a time itachi has 3 tysukamis simple maths nagato has 6 paths
 

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genjutsu on pain does not affect nagato i already explained it.

NAgato bodies are controlled and is intwined with his Bodies Right.....So if that body is apart of Nagato's mind, then Nagato would be affected by Anything affecting his mind (Body) The bodies are basically Nagato's Minds.

Why didnt nagato use his bodies to get him out of jiraiyas GEnjutsu.........cuz he couldnt, otherwise he would've revived the other bodies to help him escape, But instead he waited until Jiraiya Ended the Genjutsu, So he'll have his mind back to revive his other bodies and attack Jiraiya.

Although i may be wrong, and you may be wrong, But he did wait until jiraiya ended it, so he can move them.
 

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genjutsu does not affect nagato. he can control other bodies while 1 body is in genjutsu meaning he can counter fast and fatally. if genjutsu affected nagato thru brain linkage nagato wud be dead from when jariya stabbed tht path while in genjutsu.
no but tsukuyomi only lasts for a second that not enough time for anyone to react. After using it deva path, the most problematic path will be gone. he can then use it again for another second to take out preta path the second most dangerous path
 

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I've seen there is no point in trying 2 talk sense into a group of naive,foolish and biased Nagato fans
interesting so because i have proved you and your fanboy friend im naive and foolish ok thats a compliment because i woildnt want to be considered logical by you because you make no sense what so ever its pure garbage
 

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like it was stated, Tsukiyomi is Itachi's only real defence, and it's flawed really, as we stated, each tendo is like a seperate person, Tsukiyomi isn't capable of catching multiple ppl at once I believe, and once a tendo is in Tsukiyomi, it'll only experience some minor discomfort for a second, and then he'll be back into the fray, remember when Jaraiya caught the 3 pains in a genjutsu, only the bodies were imprisoned, Nagato was unaffected.

Another thing is that Itachi can only use his MS abilities for so long before the jutsu blinds him, and there is no way Susanoo can protect Itachi if the very footing on which he stands is destroyed around him, Susanoo's yata mirror can't save the landscape around him from being destroyed, it's like me expecting bullet proof glass to save me from an earthquake
 
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no but tsukuyomi only lasts for a second that not enough time for anyone to react. After using it deva path, the most problematic path will be gone. he can then use it again for another second to take out preta path the second most dangerous path
tysukami works by torturing how can you torture a dead body to death its laughable he has 3 trys if he wants to lose all his chakra so tell me how this works?
 
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