Itachi vs Pain

[Splendid Ninja]

I just don't get it. Like I said, if you based your entire argument off of CT and it fails, what else can you say?

Itachi showed that he can think calmly in tight situations. He analyzed the situation (quicker than Shikamaru), came up with a strategy and utilized it. Followed up with another attack, sealing Nagato away forever. Face it, his genius is what won the battle. And no, not Naruto and Bee, who were being held most of the time and being scared the other half. It wasn't 3 vs. 1. The attack to the core was solely Itachi.

Could he have done it on his own? Probably. Would he take that chance? No. He's tactical. If you have it, use it.

Itachi single-handedly stopped the shared vision, the statue and sealed Nagato. All the abilities that were so debated had become mute. What more do you need to prove it. Itachi's genius combined with the powerful techniques he has makes him the stronger ninja.

Haha i admit you said it verry well BUT!
I still think IT WOULD BE A GOOD DRAW :no_ignore:
Maybe this kinda thread should closed and just wait till itachi fights kabut then maybe we can finally decide lol?

 

[Shisuisama]

thanks, that other guy details things on a minimal lvl its hilariousxd , my counter point in regards to what you wrote is, kabuto was controlling nagato right? all of them fell to itachi's tecs, due to that fact that nagato was not in control of his own paths, now if you face itachi against the 6 paths of pain, you will get a more organized 6 paths, for example there formation when vs naruto. sharingan eye sight it far greater then any ones eyes i will admit, but vs 6 pair of eyes watching every move you do, and im sure they can close ther eyes to combat itachi's genjutsu while the others see for them, for example, animal path whith its eyes disabled was still able to fight. remember they can revive each other, summon each other.

nice point +1 rep

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

i am not arguing with that man but we have not seen it from itachi so leave that out for now. look at my explanation he can still use genjutsu on tendo(gravity guy) and just seal him. and also take out the absorbing guy with sealing. itachi is smart dude these two are the ones danngerous and itachi wud target them first to get them out of the way. he can also meanwhile block any attacks with yata mirror and susano itself. Then he can take out these paths with regular ninjutsu, amaterasu or yasaka magatama. Itachi can win in many other ways than just genjutsu dude. itachi's chances are better.

thanks, that other guy details things on a minimal lvl its hilariousxd , my counter point in regards to what you wrote is, kabuto was controlling nagato right? all of them fell to itachi's tecs, due to that fact that nagato was not in control of his own paths, now if you face itachi against the 6 paths of pain, you will get a more organized 6 paths, for example there formation when vs naruto. sharingan eye sight it far greater then any ones eyes i will admit, but vs 6 pair of eyes watching every move you do, and im sure they can close ther eyes to combat itachi's genjutsu while the others see for them, for example, animal path whith its eyes disabled was still able to fight. remember they can revive each other, summon each other.

Great point Ame No Kage
Nagato has a stagegy formation for every opponent.He base a stategy just for jiraiya's uncertinty of the rinnagan and It ocular powers.That was no dought A pefect stategy played to percise fluency. The six pains see's all and they will see all of itachi's atacks.Itachi will know this so Nagato will prepare. He knows when Itachi will use amaterasu and put Peta path there to absorb it.It is ninjutsu. Arv999 said that Itachi will go after Deva path but he is absoluty wong, he will go after Naraka path cus It can revive anything. Thats His Best Chance of defeating Nagato.His pain formation is designed for its protection. Nagato would Know that Itachi will try to seal Naraka path so nagato would make Animal path summon more Eyes on the battle field. He then would use Asura path to protect the eyes of any path and to counter Itachi's long rang jutsu. Nagato will get Human path behind Susanoo cus thats were it weakness is EVERY THING HAS A WEAKNESS and Human path is the fastest of the paths and specialives in taijutsu. It couldnt even be detected by the sensors in Pain Arc. He will make Deva path use Chibaku tensei and have Giant panda as a sacafice to the sealsword while he sends Giant Ox and Giant Rihno at susanoo
from each side to keep It occupide even though Susanoo cant destroy chibaku on his own. Nagato will test Its Yeta Mirror and close range combat hopefuly making an opening for Human path to get in close with Itachi. You cant deny the combos of the paths and its tech. No even counting the other 5 animal summoning and the way to use them.Nagato and Itachi Battle may have the most devestation off attacks clashing, but A HEALTHY NAGATO with pretty much unlimited chakra based on the 'Pain Arc' aginst A HEATHY ITACHI with a Stamina sucking MS cant beat Nagato.heaty Nagato can use deva strongest attacks More with little strain on his body.Deva path is best when fighting large objects like the 9 tails. Just like Susuno'o. AND THESE WAS JUST ONE WAY HE COULD DEFEAT ITACHI.

Im lazy when It comes to makin an case like this but it had to be done.

 

[C Namikaze14]

Itachi?Pain? DRAW. Both are strong,so its hard to decide.

 

[RikudoSageNaruto]

Nagato has a stagegy formation for every opponent.He base a stategy just for jiraiya's uncertinty of the rinnagan and It ocular powers.That was no dought A pefect stategy played to percise fluency. The six pains see's all and they will see all of itachi's atacks.Itachi will know this so Nagato will prepare. He knows when Itachi will use amaterasu and put Peta path there to absorb it.It is ninjutsu. Arv999 said that Itachi will go after Deva path but he is absoluty wong, he will go after Naraka path cus It can revive anything. For that Nagato would Know that Itachi will try to seal Naraka path so nagato would make Animal path summon more Eyes on the battle field. He then would use Asura path to protect the eyes of any path and to counter Itachi's long rang jutsu. Nagato will get Human path behind Susanoo cus thats were it weakness is EVERY THING HAS A WEAKNESS and Human path is the fastest of the paths and specialives in taijutsu. It couldnt even be detected by the sensors in Pain Arc. He will make Deva path use Chibaku tensei and have Giant panda as a sacafice to the sealsword while he sends Giant Ox and Giant Rihno at susanoo
from each side to keep It occupide even though Susanoo cant destroy chibaku on his own. Nagato will test Its Yeta Mirror and close range combat hopefuly making an opening for Human path to get in close with Itachi. You cant deny the combos of the paths and its tech. No even counting the other 5 animal summoning and the way to use them.Nagato and Itachi Battle may have the most devestation off attacks clashing, but A HEALTHY NAGATO with pretty much unlimited chakra based on the 'Pain Arc' aginst A HEATHY ITACHI with a Stamina sucking MS cant beat Nagato. AND THESE WAS JUST ONE WAY HE COULD DEFEAT ITACHI.

Im lazy but It comes to makin an case like this but it had to be done.

Agree

 

[Olorin]

Itachi can beat 1 path but if he were up against Nagato I say it can go either way

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Agree

yea I had to reedit it to make more points

 

[jabznaruto]

itachi....

he has a lot more in store....
....we don't know what shisui's eye could do to a rinnegan...
....we witnessed itachi's genius...
....we have known nagato's full powers extent
....nagato is a second rate rinnegan user like madara-tobi...the juubi and the sop6 are the original ones...or probably a stronger set...

but nagato will have his chances...

 

[mojado1996]

I dont think Nagato will win. He is with his paths. Alone he is much more bad ass.

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Itachi would win. Genjutsu. and/or Susano'o would do it

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Nvm. Even though i voted for Itachi, Pain would win acually.

 

[mookyuzamaki]

No itachi is nearly beating Nagato with his 6 paths people on narutobase are so biased its unbelievable and your part of the problem.
You look at a Healthy Nagato vs Itachi would be a Nagato win but he has his 6 paths and people are voting for itachi? Even the most biased fanboy must see how riddiclous this

yeah ppl on nb are and its like that in every thread its always turns in to a popularity contest no matter what.even though the character pain nagato or who ever it is the obvious winner and the popular one wins no matter what. pains eyes are the ultimate dojutsu i doubt itachis tsukuyomi would effect him cuz if snake sasuke broke free of it and he had three moe sharingan then a beast a$$ nagato rinnegan can break it note these are the eyes of the sage and i think nagato is older then itachi since he was j-mans apprentice and i dont think itachi was even in the anbu yet (if im wrong doesnt matter they have to be in the same age group or nagato is older and has more exp. so in comparing smarts and overall battle smarts there isn't a vast difference) but besides that it took three of the toughest ninja up to date at present time to beat complete nagato
1 rasenshrukrn
(is one of the best jutsus in naruto)
1 tailed beast bomb
(is what the fourth tried to replicate but only grasp somewhat of what the jutsu really was and made rassengan)
and 1 projectile from susono
(susono is just a beast and is a end all or be all for some characters just cuz the sealing jutsu part)

so knowing this

that it took all three and in that three there all around the same level

killer bee is tough
(imo naruto cant beat be right now)
naruto is tough

(naruto is fast enough to beat itachi right off the bat and genjutsu can be broke when a teammate wakes you up or releases it hopefully the nine tails can do that to tsukuyomi but we will never know unless sasuke uses tskuyomi on naruto and naruto and the fox break it but till this day we know in naruto that a sharingan and a ninja who uses sharingan can break out of tskuyomi and snake sasuke broke it when he was a snake and had no teamate to break it and the only person we seen get caught and itachi raping them inside it was kakshi and that was when they were kids so imo a tailed beast can help break it)



and itachi will get beat by both lol but it doesn't matter there all beast


and you already know what my point is if your not dbz strong rite now where the anime is at rite now your nothing this is where naruto is being compared to his dad who was mad fast so bull ish jutsu like susono are not gonna work if someone has mad chakra then they can run away jump doge way faster and do super human feats and when your doing things like this



(spoilers)

You must be registered for see links

taking all chakra based attacks!

in one body

just one!

and he is fast


nagato was not in control of his own paths, now if you face itachi against the 6 paths of pain, you will get a more organized 6 paths, for example there formation when vs naruto. sharingan eye sight it far greater then any ones eyes i will admit, but vs 6 pair of eyes watching every move you do, and im sure they can close ther eyes to combat itachi's genjutsu while the others see for them, for example, animal path whith its eyes disabled was still able to fight. remember they can revive each other, summon each other.

and its the same at this point if nagato was controlling the summons and all that it would be a diff story
and he can suck out your soul like tsaang sung off mortal combat


also he is holding naruto rite there and naruto has some what controlled the nine tails fox's chakra so naruto is mad strong and naruto is getting man handled by nagato

You must be registered for see links

and also this
nagato

stops killer bee's attack with this mecha arm thing
wow!

killer bee who is probably kinda close to A the raikage's speed

if not faster imo
since his lariat beat A's

You must be registered for see links

then he pulls out a mecha cannon that does a blast similar to jugos beam



attack

You must be registered for see links

jugos beam attack

You must be registered for see links

also note what naruto says his

speed and strength are on a way higher level and this is naruto chakra mode when he is the orange flash!


and also i agree with itachi rite here

You must be registered for see links

every jutsu has a flaw its true


BUT


when your alone going against this jutsu


and if your not as strong as the nine tails or half of the nine tails chakra
(naruto six tails vs pain six paths!)

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

and look at this??

You must be registered for see links

there is no way in hell itachi is gonna run away with susono and get out of this no way in hell.....

and not even itachi just running without susono can doge this cuz he isnt stronger then gravity
or faster
he cant beat the gravitational lift and pull

so he cant out run it lol

cuz the six tails couldn't...and itachi isn't stronger or nearly as fast as the six tails

but look at nagato he has a bloody nose and i think coughs up some blood most ppl would think after you created a moon you would be tired and done

You must be registered for see links

and

naruto wasn't done obviously

You must be registered for see links

but neither was nagato

he spares naruto!
and says this


note:nagato never intended to kill naruto only to capture and
and take the fox out

You must be registered for see links

and had enough chakra to pull this off

You must be registered for see links

to bring back to life all the ppl in the leaf village


and lets not get technical cuz if he can bring back souls what makes you think he cant bring them back and use them like edo tensei but better but we will never know that...

You must be registered for see links

back to the main point!!!!


itachis susono will get merked!


this one move

(itachis projectile with susuono)

the yasakas
magatama

cant destroy planetary devastation by itself!!

You must be registered for see links

it cant it took three of the strongest techs to destroy it

well at least 2 of them were but if you want to get technical sasuke susono arrow is on the same level as yasakas magatama or if not weaker either or it does work

and that alone is not strong enough to break the black ball of planetary devastation

and genjutsu doesnt work i think the only way j-man had a chance was sage mode and the ear genjutsu with the frog song i think dojutsu dont work on rinnegan cuz why would it it belong to the sage of the fin six paths so tsukuyoni which was broke by snake sasuke does not have a chance against rinnigan eyes and thats just the eyes nagato was a uzamaki two so he most likely had mad chakra and we can verify it cuz of all the feats he pulled off all that takes made chakra and you know it dont lie and say all that took lil to no chakra he was probably on tailed beast levels if not more since he battle the fox so knowing this that nagato has mad chakra and beast a$$ eyes

itachi f#$##$#

loses
point blank

i made a valid argument i stated all the facts straight out of the manga

had some good ideas none that which even no one with biased opinion who is on itachi side could even argue no one its all facts so if the fan boys come running back to attack this post i hope you know what your in for cuz if you read the whole thing it will blow your mind i have been wanting to do this for a while but i never knew how to put links on here that go straight to the manga but now i do


no sane man would not argue these statements there not bs i not making anything up as i go along all this is straight out of the manga


so please some one prove me wrong sorry to be an

A$$
but i hate itachi fan boys..

and minato fan boys


cuz imo if you aint dbz strong or fast you get raped

simple as that...

 

[Turson]

Nvm. Even though i voted for Itachi, Pain would win acually.

Then why did you vote for Itachi? Are you retarded?

 

[Izanami]

A Healthy Nagato would beat itachi but they put the 6 paths with him and itachis winning it just proves that its not logic people use to say whos more powerful or 115 would of put Nagato

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Great point Ame No Kage
Nagato has a stagegy formation for every opponent.He base a stategy just for jiraiya's uncertinty of the rinnagan and It ocular powers.That was no dought A pefect stategy played to percise fluency. The six pains see's all and they will see all of itachi's atacks.Itachi will know this so Nagato will prepare. He knows when Itachi will use amaterasu and put Peta path there to absorb it.It is ninjutsu. Arv999 said that Itachi will go after Deva path but he is absoluty wong, he will go after Naraka path cus It can revive anything. Thats His Best Chance of defeating Nagato.His pain formation is designed for its protection. Nagato would Know that Itachi will try to seal Naraka path so nagato would make Animal path summon more Eyes on the battle field. He then would use Asura path to protect the eyes of any path and to counter Itachi's long rang jutsu. Nagato will get Human path behind Susanoo cus thats were it weakness is EVERY THING HAS A WEAKNESS and Human path is the fastest of the paths and specialives in taijutsu. It couldnt even be detected by the sensors in Pain Arc. He will make Deva path use Chibaku tensei and have Giant panda as a sacafice to the sealsword while he sends Giant Ox and Giant Rihno at susanoo
from each side to keep It occupide even though Susanoo cant destroy chibaku on his own. Nagato will test Its Yeta Mirror and close range combat hopefuly making an opening for Human path to get in close with Itachi. You cant deny the combos of the paths and its tech. No even counting the other 5 animal summoning and the way to use them.Nagato and Itachi Battle may have the most devestation off attacks clashing, but A HEALTHY NAGATO with pretty much unlimited chakra based on the 'Pain Arc' aginst A HEATHY ITACHI with a Stamina sucking MS cant beat Nagato.heaty Nagato can use deva strongest attacks More with little strain on his body.Deva path is best when fighting large objects like the 9 tails. Just like Susuno'o. AND THESE WAS JUST ONE WAY HE COULD DEFEAT ITACHI.

Im lazy when It comes to makin an case like this but it had to be done.

and about the sword of totsuka it cant seal multiple things.
1) It only can seal one person at a time

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

1) It can ether cut or seal, it has to do one or another.It cant do both

You must be registered for see links

2) those who say that totsuka sword stricks fast, let me remind you that Orochimaru couldnt have possbly dodge it cus he was in a big ass serpent
that was on Sasuke. Also you can tell from Orochimaru's confidence that he wasnt even thinkin about dadging it.He new that anything that that struck him wasnt going to kill him, but he didnt know that it was the sword of Totsuka

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

3)to add, Orochimaru had no control of Sasuke in that situation. No Way No How could Orochimaru have dodged it. He Was Unable to move.

 

[Don Nizzy]

You must be registered for see links

EVERY ONE TRY THIS LINK U WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED THIS TAKES U TO A HEATED BATTLE THE LIKES U NEVER SEEN BEFORE

JUST A CLICK AWAY TO ENTERNTAINMENT

 

[LocalNinja]

wow..! the vote is on itachi side.. i vote for pain.. they never lose to a PERSON!

 

[Shamami]

Just to make things clear:

1- The rinnengan is said to be the most powerful occular power more than a sharingan in terms of having a better insight and the user is gifted with learning all kinds of ninjutsu that was stated, however its not better than a MS or ofcourse EMS cuz that wasnt stated. otherwise why would madara hv switched one eye with a rinnengan and not both.

2- Pain is definetly not immune to genjutsu since fukasaku(the frog) was able to get him into his sound genjutsu. Sound or not a genjutsu is a genjutsu. So definately a genjutsu like tsukyomi which is third strongest genjutsu after infinite tsukyomi and shisuis eye( forgot the name) can defintely can more than easily get either nagato or the six paths of pain. Even fukasaku said that pains weakness is genjutsu

3- Susanoo cant be crushed by chibaku tensei as itachi was only in susanoo second state when he threw the tomoe thing (forgot the name) so his susanoo third state can easily hit the core( as the tomoe would be more powerful+ totsuka blade) of chibaku and end the technique, but then again no one knws what cud hv happened.

 

[Izanami]

Madara said Nagato was invincible and the strongest member in the akatsaki and guess who was also in there akatsaki

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Shamami;4001799]Just to make things clear:

1- The rinnengan is said to be the most powerful occular power more than a sharingan in terms of having a better insight and the user is gifted with learning all kinds of ninjutsu that was stated, however its not better than a MS or ofcourse EMS cuz that wasnt stated. otherwise why would madara hv switched one eye with a rinnengan and not both.

Isnt It obvious, Rinnagan+Sharigan is better Rinnagan or Sharigan alone.
U should of thought about that before U post.U_U

Rinnagan isnt better than shariganU_U but yet the Sharigan and Byakugan are decendents of Rinnagan. Nagato my not be the Original but he posseses all the skills of past Sot6p.

2- Pain is definetly not immune to genjutsu since fukasaku(the frog) was able to get him into his sound genjutsu. Sound or not a genjutsu is a genjutsu. So definately a genjutsu like tsukyomi which is third strongest genjutsu after infinite tsukyomi and shisuis eye( forgot the name) can defintely can more than easily get either nagato or the six paths of pain. Even fukasaku said that pains weakness is genjutsu

Itachi doesnt have Infinte Tsukyomi. and edo tensei Itachi didnt have it ether cus he didnt have it to begin with. Madara said that Infinit Tsukyomi is only achivable if one become one with jyuubi tails.Thats the only way to unlock highest ocular power of Rinnagan+Sharigan_ Infinite Tsukyomi

3- Susanoo cant be crushed by chibaku tensei as itachi was only in susanoo second state when he threw the tomoe thing (forgot the name) so his susanoo third state can easily hit the core( as the tomoe would be more powerful+ totsuka blade) of chibau and end the technique, but then again no one knws what cud hv happened.

Its called Ysaka's Magatama and its power do to susonno'os states is irrelevent cuz it is not known.What is known is that it needed the help of tail beast bomb an rasen-shuriken .

U are using false statments Jack