Itachi vs Pain

[Kira was Righteous]

Rinnekugan n Twedros do u agree with d facts I've posted about genjutsu? Twedros please be polite.

I agree with your basic points but i dont like this itachis tysukami can only be broken by his blood because it doesnt follow the 3 ways how to get yourself of genjutsu by this logic he could beat anyone, it just seems like a convienent execuse to say why itachi would win by that logic he could get the so6p in genjustu forever because it can only be broken by his blood and seeing as the senju and uzumaki are related it seems like a very bland statement.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I agree with your basic points but i dont like this itachis tysukami can only be broken by his blood because it doesnt follow the 3 ways how to get yourself of genjutsu by this logic he could beat anyone, it just seems like a convienent execuse to say why itachi would win by that logic he could get the so6p in genjustu forever because it can only be broken by his blood and seeing as the senju and uzumaki are related it seems like a very bland statement.

It's not my fault the manga stated it. But THAAAAANK YOOOUUUU 4 agreeing 2 the other parts

 

[Jokule67]

I agree with your basic points but i dont like this itachis tysukami can only be broken by his blood because it doesnt follow the 3 ways how to get yourself of genjutsu by this logic he could beat anyone, it just seems like a convienent execuse to say why itachi would win by that logic he could get the so6p in genjustu forever because it can only be broken by his blood and seeing as the senju and uzumaki are related it seems like a very bland statement.

THANK YOU!!!the manga states alot of things tht are wrong. this blood crap is annoying finally sum1 with sum sense. it takes a high 3tomoe user 2 break tsukoyomi and nagato is advanced Rinnegan!!

 

[MinatoFLASH]

I agree with your basic points but i dont like this itachis tysukami can only be broken by his blood because it doesnt follow the 3 ways how to get yourself of genjutsu by this logic he could beat anyone, it just seems like a convienent execuse to say why itachi would win by that logic he could get the so6p in genjustu forever because it can only be broken by his blood and seeing as the senju and uzumaki are related it seems like a very bland statement.

Yes but its possible that genjutsu dont even work on so6p or is too fast for it, also yea it sucks but i dont think genjutsu can kill you.

 

[kadowade]

No disturbing your chakra works like sakura in the chunin exams i cant believe people voted for Itachi v A healthy Nagato let alone with his paths.

Yet even ino's weak mind transfer jutsu took time to escape, So imagine A Kekkei Genkai Genjutsu, especially a Sharingan user, and a Genjutsu expert as ITachi.

And plus you have to know how to disturb your chakra anyway, and disturbing it takes time, and fighting itachi, you could be dead before you even get a chance to begin to disturb it. SO basically once your caught, your a Sitting duck for atleast 30 seconds or More. Breaking a strong Genjutsu is like Naruto's Sage Training. It takes TIME and concetraition, and in a Actual Battle, You Won't Have "TIME,.

And if your not trained in releasing Genjutsu, your gonna keep failing and gonna have to start back over which would get you killed since you'll be dead in a actual battle, cuz no one will give you all that time. (LIke when Jiraiya was trying to teach naruto how to release Genjutsu, Naruto Kept Failing and kept falling in the water cuz he couldnt get it. Then he even tried it when he was fighting the 30% itachi

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[Bad Luck Brian]

I believe that Itachi would own!

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I know it sucks ssooooo much but d manga is d manga. I truly believe Kishi is an Itachi fan but dat's my opinion

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Yet even ino's weak mind transfer jutsu took time to escape, So imagine A Kekkei Genkai Genjutsu, especially a Sharingan user, and a Genjutsu expert as ITachi.

And plus you have to know how to disturb your chakra anyway, and disturbing it takes time, and fighting itachi, you could be dead before you even get a chance to begin to disturb it. SO basically once your caught, your a Sitting duck for atleast 30 seconds or More. Breaking a strong Genjutsu is like Naruto's Sage Training. It takes TIME and concetraition, and in a Actual Battle, You Won't Have "TIME,.

And if your not trained in releasing Genjutsu, your gonna keep failing and gonna have to start back over which would get you killed since you'll be dead in a actual battle, cuz no one will give you all that time. (LIke when Jiraiya was trying to teach naruto how to release Genjutsu, Naruto Kept Failing and kept falling in the water cuz he couldnt get it. Then he even tried it when he was fighting the 30% itachi

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I agree bro but to be honest i now think Nagato wud win

 

[kadowade]

Yes but its possible that genjutsu dont even work on so6p or is too fast for it, also yea it sucks but i dont think genjutsu can kill you.

Tsukiyomi can kill you. Thats why Kisame said "im surprised he still alive" (Only cuz itachi spared his life). And KaKashi even said "Why didnt he just kill me" look at tha manga when they fought, kisame said something about them losing their spirit causing death

 

[Jokule67]

nagato is highly skilled with multiple man combos. especially with 6 paths powers and himself(full powered) in the fray.

about the chakra disturbance. itachi wont get nagato in genjutsu cuz he can use the other bodies 2 see. the signal 4 the chakra is strongest because he is so close it wudnt be hard 2 disturb chakra and torturing a dead body is stupid.

itachi will try 2 use tsukoyomi on nagato and fail.

 

[Gildarts Clive]

Alright its seems everyone is coming to nagato,s side so he WINS.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I agree bro but to be honest i now think Nagato wud win

What changed ur mind?
Pls I have 2 clerify dis now.
Hearing Genjutsu is still genjutsu. Visual genjutsu is still under genjutsu n so is Finger genjutsu. People say d Rinnegan is IMMUNE 2 visual genjutsu with no facts 2 back it up but what of Itachi's Finger genjutsu? Who knows Itachi may even hav ASS genjutsu.

THERE IS 1 IMPORTANT THING I WUD WANT 2 POINT OUT.
D genjutsu Itachi casted upon Naruto when they met on their way 2 save Gaara was NOT Tsukuyomi. It was Itachi's NORMAL GENJUTSU. I know dis cos Itachi's eye's never showed Mangekyou Sharingan during that fight. He even said he cudn't activate MS at that time.

That was only 30% of Itachi's chakra. So if disrupting ur chakra flow(with someone as much chakra as Naruto) cudn't work on a NORMAL GENJUTSU how cud someone disrupt his chakra 2 counter TSUKUYOMI? It's not possible even with d Rinnegan.

It is stated in d manga that Itachi's Tsukuyomi can ONLY BE BROKEN BY HIS OWN FLESH AND BLOOD(Meaning Sasuke). And Sasuke fulfilled that statement when they fought. Zetsu said he cudn't believe that SASUKE BROKE TSUKUYOMI.

I hope dis thread has been useful 2 those still arguing about Itachi vs Nagato. Please read ur manga 2 be sure about mt facts n correct me where I am wrong. Thank You.

I re-posted this 4 u 2 remind u why u SHUDN'T change ur mind.

 

[Gildarts Clive]

nagato wins with 22 Votes.
Itachi losses with 20 Votes.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I don't see why u guys wud even think of saying that Nagato wud win after d FACTS I posted. If Normal Genjutsu isn't enough then Tsukuyomi wud do d trick. And 4 those who say d 6 paths will help Nagato. It says u need a DIFFERENT CHAKRA SOURCE 2 break d genjutsu. D 6 Paths chakra source are comin frm only 1 place. NAGATO. Only a tailed beast which is a DIFFERENT CHAKRA SOURCE can break a genjutsu 4 d Jinchuriki.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Please Polls don't decide who's stronger. You cud say there are more ppl that THINK Nagato wud beat Itachi.

 

[kadowade]

Alright its seems everyone is coming to nagato,s side so he WINS.

So you go by opinions instead of logic?
Theres a Thread "Strongest Akatsuki memeber" And Itachi is in the Lead by a Long Shot. So you shouldn't support your answer by polls and people's opinions.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

nagato wins with 22 Votes.
Itachi losses with 20 Votes.

lol you wished man, Itachi fanboys are coming back! Better prepare urself cuz Itachi is coming back. lol

 

[Jokule67]

Please Polls don't decide who's stronger. You cud say there are more ppl that THINK Nagato wud beat Itachi.

genjutsu wont matter in this fight. he can use the other 6 bodies 2 see. and if they are caught it doesnt affect nagato just tht body tht CAN be revived by himself or the other body. itachi is outclessed.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

I don't see why u guys wud even think of saying that Nagato wud win after d FACTS I posted. If Normal Genjutsu isn't enough then Tsukuyomi wud do d trick. And 4 those who say d 6 paths will help Nagato. It says u need a DIFFERENT CHAKRA SOURCE 2 break d genjutsu. D 6 Paths chakra source are comin frm only 1 place. NAGATO. Only a tailed beast which is a DIFFERENT CHAKRA SOURCE can break a genjutsu 4 d Jinchuriki.

Ok now its my turn to hit you with facts. If Pain gets caught in a genjutsu then only 1 path will die, meanwhile the Deva path wud use divine attraction and stab Itachi hard. Whats Itachi gonna do then, and even if he had Sasoonu on, all Pain wud need to do is keep a distance and soon Itachi wud run low on chakra and Pain wud win, he can push the sword of Sasoonoo back and the same with amatarasu, genjutsu only kills one path at a time which cud be brought back to life. So yea sooner or later Pain wud kill him.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

genjutsu wont matter in this fight. he can use the other 6 bodies 2 see. and if they are caught it doesnt affect nagato just tht body tht CAN be revived by himself or the other body. itachi is outclessed.

Yea exactly