Itachi vs Pain

[kadowade]

No becuz if his mind could be specifically targeted through the bodies then Nagato should have been in the frogs cube, yet he wasn't, becuz his mind was not imprisoned, only the tendo's pseudo-mind was.

Caught you slippin, lol

Didn't you say "The paths dosent have A "mind".........

So if pseudo mind was trapped by Genjutsu that means Itachi can trap The paths in Genjutsu.........

 

[arv993]

but the point issit would be to weak for pain

no itachi's genjutsu are not weak it is still tsukiyomi it still does the same thing but just doesn't torture them as that is unnecessary. Its strong enough ur underestimating itachi's genjutsu skills.

 

[Lord Painz]

I really think that the genjutsu argument has been settled

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hmm really y is that if pain did get caught in this genjutsu wouldnt the other just attack itachi ever think of that, like they did to j-man..

 

[DigitalMonster]

nope i just don't like your Sig.

well,the mods are fine with it.So I don't really care about your opinion

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[arv993]

yeah we already discussed this, negato had no intention of absorbing susanoo due to the fact his state of mind was restored.

ok maybe that or probably the fact that the sword is fuinjutsu not ninjutsu its a sword that seals ppl in a drunken genjutsu for eternity, its not ninjutsu.

 

[laxus]

don't bother man jiraya already showed its possible but nagato fans think the guy is invincible and genjutsu even by itachi the greatest in the uchiha after shisui can't even get nagato at all.

just saying that eye and sound are different so don't say an eye genjutsu will work on pain, you need to block your hearing for sound,train your ears

 

[Retsu]

I really think that the genjutsu argument has been settled

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Nothin there at all, Jaraiya's jutsu was specially made to bind the mind, the mind is represented by the ppl in the cube, and looky here mister digital guy, my bad about any snide remarks, but I'm not gonna listen to anybody's argument when it's based off a big theory as to why Nagato may or may not have waited to kill Jiraiya

Lets just bury the hatchet and agree to disagree, anyone who hurls insults is taking fanboydom too far, just bring some facts to the debate, and if you get your point through, great, if not there is no need to insult anyone, lets keep this a class act

 

[Shisuisama]

I really think that the genjutsu argument has been settled

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man you are seriously retarded. your reply to genjutsu is irrelevant, why? nagatos eyes are not some ordinary eyes.

 

[laxus]

no itachi's genjutsu are not weak it is still tsukiyomi it still does the same thing but just doesn't torture them as that is unnecessary. Its strong enough ur underestimating itachi's genjutsu skills.

you need to torture them the more you do damge in genjutsu the greater.

 

[kadowade]

hmm really y is that if pain did get caught in this genjutsu wouldnt the other just attack itachi ever think of that, like they did to j-man..

Pain had ALL bodies trapped. He couldnt manipulate the other bodies until Jiraiya Released the genjutsu. otherwise he couldve EASILY killed jiraiya with the other 3 bodies while jiraiya had the other ones in a Genjutsu.

 

[Retsu]

Caught you slippin, lol

Didn't you say "The paths dosent have A "mind".........

So if pseudo mind was trapped by Genjutsu that means Itachi can trap The paths in Genjutsu.........

yes, but his Tsukiyomi only last a second, and I doubt it could stress out a pain seeing as it's hard to stress a dead body out, All Tsukiyomi does is use a chunk of Itachi's chakra and immobilizes 1 pain for a second, and before you say Itachi can take him out in that one second, 5 paths would like to have a word with you

 

[arv993]

you need to torture them the more you do damge in genjutsu the greater.

it would still stop them he does not have to torture them and itachi can easily seal or attack them. and how would they break it

 

[Retsu]

Pain had ALL bodies trapped. He couldnt manipulate the other bodies until Jiraiya Released the genjutsu. otherwise he couldve EASILY killed jiraiya with the other 3 bodies while jiraiya had the other ones in a Genjutsu.

Not true remember pain summoned the first two paths when he went to fight Jiraiya, it could've just taken the other few time to get there seeing as the animal path, was in the genjutsu

 

[kadowade]

man you are seriously retarded. your reply to genjutsu is irrelevant, why? nagatos eyes are not some ordinary eyes.

Eyes dosent matter, Itachi's genjutsu effects your mind and mentalitiy NOt your eyes. Nagatos eyes is just like regular eyes, when it comes to itachis genjutsu. Nagato has NO genjutsu resistance, because nagato is only 1 path. Only the SO6P's rinnegan would beat itachi's genjutsu, not nagatos, since nagato is inferior and dosent have the capabilites of the SO6P, neither the ocular powers the SO6P has.

 

[arv993]

man you are seriously retarded. your reply to genjutsu is irrelevant, why? nagatos eyes are not some ordinary eyes.

it doesn't say anywhere that he is resistant to genjutsu however its been said only uchiha can break out of that genjutsu

 

[kadowade]

yes, but his Tsukiyomi only last a second, and I doubt it could stress out a pain seeing as it's hard to stress a dead body out, All Tsukiyomi does is use a chunk of Itachi's chakra and immobilizes 1 pain for a second, and before you say Itachi can take him out in that one second, 5 paths would like to have a word with you

I wasent talking about Tsukiyomi, i was talking about all his other Genjutsu.

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Itachi has tons of Genjutsu to immobilize all the paths

 

[arv993]

Eyes dosent matter, Itachi's genjutsu effects your mind and mentalitiy NOt your eyes. Nagatos eyes is just like regular eyes, when it comes to itachis genjutsu. Nagato has NO genjutsu resistance, because nagato is only 1 path. Only the SO6P's rinnegan would beat itachi's genjutsu, not nagatos, since nagato is inferior and dosent have the capabilites of the SO6P, neither the ocular powers the SO6P has.

yea he doesn't have the uchiha and senju dna that allows him to do genjutsu and other things like Izanagi.

 

[Retsu]

Ok, so far Susan and Amaterasu is up for absorption, Tsukiyomi is a no-no, Nagato 6pop just neutralizes too many of itachi's abilities, I see no way out for itachi if all 6 paths were out to demolish him

 

[Shisuisama]

ok maybe that or probably the fact that the sword is fuinjutsu not ninjutsu its a sword that seals ppl in a drunken genjutsu for eternity, its not ninjutsu.

fuinjutsu is still chakra based. only difference is the execution of the jutsu such as sealing and a seal for example. narutos seal in pt1 and the sealing done by itachis susanoo

 

[Retsu]

I wasent talking about Tsukiyomi, i was talking about all his other Genjutsu.

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Itachi has tons of Genjutsu to immobilize all the paths

True, but all he has to do is disturb the chakra in a path and it's genjutsu free, so now you're saying that Tsukiyomi can't kill 6pop, but a weaker one can???