Itachi vs Pain

[Kira was Righteous]

Do you realize that if any body sees the genjutsu then that means Nagato gets trapped as well. xd

right when jiraya got the 3 paths with his sound genjutsu why was nagato talking to him if he was under genjutsu think about it its him talking the paths cant talk for themselves its riddiclous these arguements

 

[Lord Painz]

HOw did they "SEE" themselves in Jiraiays Genjutsu. Even though it was delivered by sound, they still had to SEE themselvesi in that frog cube thing

His genjutsu affected the mind right, If not what did jiraiyas Genjutsu effect? If they had no mind, then how did jirayas Genjutsu get them, wat did it effect?

genjutsu is for making your oppent not able to move when ur done with it right, like kakashi was after itachi use his genjutsu on him, they may be able to get caught with genjutsu but in the end it still has no effect because the pain still can move and everything.

 

[laxus]

So it's official then that Susano'o can't be absorbed.

susanno can be absorbed where are you getting that it's not chakra from it's being shown because his chakra takes the form

 

[Retsu]

Again,for the sake of manga's future,

1 genjutsu>6 pains

Already been shot down, try again my good sir

 

[kadowade]

True enough, but think about it, Naruto started a conversation with Deva path, destroyed it, and finished his conversation with Nagato, this means that when Jiraiya used his jutsu, Nagato heard it as well, yet only the bodies who physically heard the song ended up in the Genjutsu. Concrete evidence that you must snare Nagato in a genjutsu for him to truly be under a genjutsu in my book.

here ya go

So isnt that saying, Nagato experience everything his body does. (Sight,Hearing,preception)

And we dont know if Nagato heard it, we dont even know if he was close by, since they were in tunnels. Nagato heard it through his bodies. Like when naruto was talking to deva path, i know nagato couldnt have heard him from ALL the way over there. So nagato heard it through his deva path

 

[Kira was Righteous]

You cant seal a dead body it has no soul to latch onto if it sealed the body then nagato could be summoned again because it would of just got his body not his soul.
You cant get a dead body under tsyukami its impossible its a dead body itachis genjutsus work by going threw the eyes into the brain thats why he talks in there mind so its impossible

 

[Lord Painz]

Their Both Genjutsu......

yea there both genjutsu but there not the same

 

[arv993]

lets get to post 2000

 

[Retsu]

So isnt that saying, Nagato experience everything his body does. (Sight,Hearing,preception)

And we dont know if Nagato heard it, we dont even know if he was close by, since they were in tunnels. Nagato heard it through his bodies. Like when naruto was talking to deva path, i know nagato couldnt have heard him from ALL the way over there. So nagato heard it through his deva path

which means they have shared hearing, therefore if Nagato was not in the frog cube, then he would not be affected if say 1 path got caught in a tsukiyomi

Next question please

 

[Shisuisama]

tsukuyomi traps the mind of the target, the mind of the target is a distance away, itachi dont have the chakra or the stamina for that, nor has the ability to travel threw the eyes of the rinnegan to cast that jutsu.

i agree with this

 

[arv993]

yea there both genjutsu but there not the same

different with more or less same purposeand both are incredibly strong.

 

[kadowade]

susanno can be absorbed where are you getting that it's not chakra from it's being shown because his chakra takes the form

but the totsuku balde is a Sealing sword, not chakra. , so i doubt he can absorb that, since it would probably seal him, . Susano'o is chakra, Totsuku blade is a sealing, in the shape of a sword. So absorbing susano'o might get him sealed

 

[arv993]

You cant seal a dead body it has no soul to latch onto if it sealed the body then nagato could be summoned again because it would of just got his body not his soul.
You cant get a dead body under tsyukami its impossible its a dead body itachis genjutsus work by going threw the eyes into the brain thats why he talks in there mind so its impossible

did nagato's soul only go no his body too, it seals anything it pierces

 

[DigitalMonster]

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That's I give up in Layman's terms, next question

It's quite hilarious concerning about when the Nagatards are losing their argument,they try to make themselves look intelligent.

 

[Retsu]

different with more or less same purposeand both are incredibly strong.

May as well be, only difference is one can kill through mental trauma, something pains bodies don't have to worry about, and the other supposedly isolates one's mind, and affects hundreds more at a time

 

[kadowade]

which means they have shared hearing, therefore if Nagato was not in the frog cube, then he would not be affected if say 1 path got caught in a tsukiyomi

Next question please

Nagato experinces everything his bodies take, except Physical contact or physical feelings. So he might be trapped in Tsukiyomi if Itachi get a path in Tsukiyomi.

And who is asking questions??

 

[Retsu]

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It's quite hilarious concerning about when the Nagatards are losing their argument,they try to make themselves look intelligent.

Whatever guy, Itachi lost, next question please

 

[Retsu]

Nagato experinces everything his bodies take, except Physical contact or physical feelings. So he might be trapped in Tsukiyomi if Itachi get a path in Tsukiyomi.

And who is asking questions??

Nah, shared vision and hearing is the same thing, so it makes no sense for one jutsu to reach Nagato's mind, and the other can't

 

[DigitalMonster]

you like weird things man. and changing the subject because pains win end of story....you should throw you hands up in defeat like your weirdo Sig.

So,those earlier posts are just attempt so that we can start arguing?

 

[arv993]

May as well be, only difference is one can kill through mental trauma, something pains bodies don't have to worry about, and the other supposedly isolates one's mind, and affects hundreds more at a time

itachi chooses to torture ppl its part of his tech, he is in control of that world and they have the basic purpose to disturb the chakra of the opponent he does not have to torture them, look at when sasuke used tsukiyomi on bee he just fell to the ground that is what genjutsu is buut itachi takes it to a different lvl by torturing them but he knos that is useless on dead bodies but still use it to stop his enemies.