Itachi vs Pain

[arv993]

ummm no, even with this its not possible. dont base its pwn'ing capabilities on the nagato vs narubee and itachi.

why is it impossible it is the strongest genjutsu ever and works without ppl even knowing and givees a command of course it can work.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

dude but nagato and 6 paths separately have not been shown to work together, nagato has to use his chakra to use the dead bodies and use the chakra to fight himself, that does not seem to make sense it is either he fights alone or hides and uses his paths, both at the same time is not shown and is double the chakra, and effort.

I agree, Nagato is using his chakra to make the paths fight, just how it was shown, happy?

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

im gone keep posted this till sum1 read it!!!!!!!

SUSANOO-susanoo is labeled ninjutsu and doujutsu. its a ninjutsu produced by doujtsu. it is materialization of itachi's chakra therefore it can be absorbed. the only reason nagato didnt do it in manga was becuz he wasnt close enough.

TSUKOYOMI-affects the chakra in the targeted person's brain with eye contact. he wud be using it on dead peoples brain. he wud shortly disable control of 1 body but the others wud already be attacking so its dumb 2 use seeing as nagato can see out of all other bodies and doesnt have 2 look at itachi with his own body.

AMATERASU-Amaterasu doesnt burn intsantly.nagato can force it off with gravity techniques(pull it off-and use 4 is own attack lol) and revive a body b4 it is comsumed. Plus he can sense th pressure of it b4 its used.

1. Susano'o- First of all, go check Narutowikia. Secondly, If Nagato cud absorb it why didn't his Pretha path shield absorb it when it was comin 2 hit him like it absorbed d Rasengan.
2.Tsukuyomi- All their visual sight are linked. If one looks at Itachi all hav seen Itachi including Nagato. Dis is even 2 Itachi's afvantage seeing a situation where he wud cast a genjutsu on six ppl. If visual doesn't work then Finger wud.
3. Amateratsu- He has 2 summon a giant statue dat will chew him. He wudda been burnt crisp already by then

 

[arv993]

most of wat itachi has can be negated or used against him by pain.

if its just paths and nagato is hiding itachi wins cos he can easily use amaterasu on the paths other than tendo and preta. he can also use susano's yata mirror to block any attack and can use sword to seal preta and tendo or use yaska magatama on tendo. itachi wins if nagato hides like the thread maker says and he has koto which he can use on nagato. if nagato is there from the start he can use KA on him. If KA is given itachi wins.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

dude minatoflash make it clear what r u trying to say is he hiding or not it just seems to me ur changing it as it is advantageous to nagato

If he hides it is technique

 

[Jokule67]

1. Susano'o- First of all, go check Narutowikia. Secondly, If Nagato cud absorb it why didn't his Pretha path shield absorb it when it was comin 2 hit him like it absorbed d Rasengan.
2.Tsukuyomi- All their visual sight are linked. If one looks at Itachi all hav seen Itachi including Nagato. Dis is even 2 Itachi's afvantage seeing a situation where he wud cast a genjutsu on six ppl. If visual doesn't work then Finger wud.
3. Amateratsu- He has 2 summon a giant statue dat will chew him. He wudda been burnt crisp already by then

I AM TALKING OF JUST PAIN NOT NAGATO.IM MAKING HIM NORMAL OKAY.

1. itachi snuck up on nagato while he was attacking bee and naruto at the same tym. he was occupied.
2.genjutsu attacks chakra in the brain of the body targeted(FACT).it wud only disable control of 1 shortly.wat u are saying isnt based on evidence by manga.
3.i dnt even kno wat ur talkin bout. I said he can pull it of any of the paths and push it off himself b4 it does serious damage.

 

[arv993]

If he hides it is technique

wait what r u talking about

 

[PEIN is the answer]

wait what r u talking about

If pain and nagato fight together it would be his tec to drop back and control his paths and then fight if he has to

 

[Ame no kage]

why is it impossible it is the strongest genjutsu ever and works without ppl even knowing and givees a command of course it can work.

dont contradict your self, you know very well its possible to know if this jutsu is being used...note *and works without ppl even knowing* your words not mine remember nagato's rinnegan allows him to see chakra, almost in the same fashion as Ao's ability to recognized the chakra colour emanating from areas of the body.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

I AM TALKING OF JUST PAIN NOT NAGATO.IM MAKING HIM NORMAL OKAY.

1. itachi snuck up on nagato while he was attacking bee and naruto at the same tym. he was occupied.
2.genjutsu attacks chakra in the brain of the body targeted(FACT).it wud only disable control of 1 shortly.wat u are saying isnt based on evidence by manga.
3.i dnt even kno wat ur talkin bout. I said he can pull it of any of the paths and push it off himself b4 it does serious damage.

YES! Exactly, i dont know where this advantage crap came from, i clearly put that they are at the best of their abilities, so no advantages and no disadvantages! They are on the best of their abilites so yes Nagato still has to use his own chakra while he controls the paths, its not like he has twice the chakra or anything but he is in the best of his ability, so if you wanna give Itachi Koto with that than whatever but Koto isnt really Itachi's ability.

 

[arv993]

If pain and nagato fight together it would be his tec to drop back and control his paths and then fight if he has to

so r u saying that nagato can fight with the bodies and change back and forth and keep switching back and forth between nagato and the 6 bodies.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

no worries, ill reply to the best of my abilities.


it was not secret he said that, itachi with his amazing ability to use genjutsu was trumped in that confrontation although his superiority in that field of jutsu is praised upon.


remember, j-man stated its only good for peps who have high intellect, if your saying naruto and nagato intellect are equal then you must be reading the wrong manga.

theres always a weakness in every jutsu, and yes he did say that, then bee squashed that theory didn't he...note..*Tsukuyomi can ONLY BE BROKEN BY HIS OWN FLESH AND BLOOD*



i disagree, if nagato was vulnerable to itachi's genjutsu, and with itachi's all so powerful Tsukuyomi which some say can end a fight in seconds, why didint he use it? its only logical since itachi's first jutsu's in combat always seems to start of with genjutsu based tecs


i also disagree with this, he repelled it then regenerated, and the fact he is cripple and vs 2 tailed beast and a advanced user of the sharingan is remarkable.


indeed, but i cant say the same for chibaku tensei.


thats incorrect, why would he save chakra when he is in edo tensai?


everyone knows that, but even the most biased itachi fan would know nagato would pwn itachi.

1. Tsukuyomi is enough n u have not yet replied 2 dat.

2. But how cud Naruto partially hinder d genjutsu b4 Itachi turned d bats in2 shurikens. When Jiraiya said with high intellect he meant with high level of understanding. And Naruto later understood it.

3. Sasuke did not use Tsukuyomi on Bee. His MS wasn't activated. And Sasuke's tsukutomi is VERY WEAK. IT WAS SAID DAT ITACHI'S TSUKUYOMI can only be broken by flesh n blood bcos it was a super genjutsu. It wasn't said dat Sasuke's genjutsu cud be.

4. Itachi didn't use it bcos there was no point in wasting ur chakra in placing a genjutsu on someone dat can't die.

5. Dat wasn't a sensible reason u gave but anyways if it was a non edo tensei Nagato it wudda burnt him badly b4 he wudda had time 2 repel it.

6. 3 Yasaka's Magatamas is enough a Chikudan Tensei.

7. It doesn't mean he doesn't use chakra 2 perform techs n who knows who he cud meet on d way, Madara, Kabutimaru, Kages

8. Pls I wud like u 2 backup that statement with sensible points.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

dont contradict your self, you know very well its possible to know if this jutsu is being used...note *and works without ppl even knowing* your words not mine remember nagato's rinnegan allows him to see chakra, almost in the same fashion as Ao's ability to recognized the chakra colour emanating from areas of the body.

yea good point he has to know he is in genjutsu i remember that even when J-man did the genjutsu on him he knew he was in it.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

dont contradict your self, you know very well its possible to know if this jutsu is being used...note *and works without ppl even knowing* your words not mine remember nagato's rinnegan allows him to see chakra, almost in the same fashion as Ao's ability to recognized the chakra colour emanating from areas of the body.

If He knew d technique was on it wudn't have been called a genjutsu casted on someone without them knowing. Itachi knew he was being used by Koto Amatsukami didn't he? But there was nothing he cud do about it

 

[arv993]

dont contradict your self, you know very well its possible to know if this jutsu is being used...note *and works without ppl even knowing* your words not mine remember nagato's rinnegan allows him to see chakra, almost in the same fashion as Ao's ability to recognized the chakra colour emanating from areas of the body.

but this jutsu is instant danzo used it to manipulate mifune but itachi can give any command he wants like go kill urself or something along those lines. danzo was using the tech on mifune to speak to his favor, but itachi can just command to make it to give any command he wants and it is used on nagato in this scenario he would not kno even what happened cos he has no awareness of the ability remember. It is the most haxed jutsu that is why danzo was waiting for it so he can use it on madara, there is a reason kishi put once in 10 years on the jutsu, becos it is so powerful.

 

[killer1]

Nope, Rinnegan>sharingan anyday

what about MS

 

[Swizzik]

1. Tsukuyomi is enough n u have not yet replied 2 dat.

2. But how cud Naruto partially hinder d genjutsu b4 Itachi turned d bats in2 shurikens. When Jiraiya said with high intellect he meant with high level of understanding. And Naruto later understood it.

3. Sasuke did not use Tsukuyomi on Bee. His MS wasn't activated. And Sasuke's tsukutomi is VERY WEAK. IT WAS SAID DAT ITACHI'S TSUKUYOMI can only be broken by flesh n blood bcos it was a super genjutsu. It wasn't said dat Sasuke's genjutsu cud be.

4. Itachi didn't use it bcos there was no point in wasting ur chakra in placing a genjutsu on someone dat can't die.

5. Dat wasn't a sensible reason u gave but anyways if it was a non edo tensei Nagato it wudda burnt him badly b4 he wudda had time 2 repel it.

6. 3 Yasaka's Magatamas is enough a Chikudan Tensei.

7. It doesn't mean he doesn't use chakra 2 perform techs n who knows who he cud meet on d way, Madara, Kabutimaru, Kages

8. Pls I wud like u 2 backup that statement with sensible points.

sorry but number 3 is a MASSIVE fail bee broke tsukoyomi because 8 tail disrupted his chakra............I hate when people invent stuff

 

[arv993]

yea good point he has to know he is in genjutsu i remember that even when J-man did the genjutsu on him he knew he was in it.

read my other post ao noticed it becos he was not affected by it and don't u kno that receivers of the jutsu are not aware of it. anyone else with sharingan, rinnegan or byakugan can tell if ppl are using the tech since it the dojutsu allows the person to see chakra, butt ppl can still be affected by it instantly and itachi can make any command with it.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

but this jutsu is instant danzo used it to manipulate mifune but itachi can give any command he wants like go kill urself or something along those lines. danzo was using the tech on mifune to speak to his favor, but itachi can just command to make it to give any command he wants and it is used on nagato in this scenario he would not kno even what happened cos he has no awareness of the ability remember. It is the most haxed jutsu that is why danzo was waiting for it so he can use it on madara, there is a reason kishi put once in 10 years on the jutsu, becos it is so powerful.

This way Itachi cud beat ANYONE!

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I AM TALKING OF JUST PAIN NOT NAGATO.IM MAKING HIM NORMAL OKAY.

1. itachi snuck up on nagato while he was attacking bee and naruto at the same tym. he was occupied.
2.genjutsu attacks chakra in the brain of the body targeted(FACT).it wud only disable control of 1 shortly.wat u are saying isnt based on evidence by manga.
3.i dnt even kno wat ur talkin bout. I said he can pull it of any of the paths and push it off himself b4 it does serious damage.

1. I meant after d explosion
2. He uses Koto Amatsukami
3. How much Amateratsu wud it repel? Repel n more wud just come, d ones he even repelled first wud come back