I dont Think Pain knows about Itachi's Susano'o in particular. He knows about Amaterasu, and maybe Tsukiyomi to some extent, but i dont think Itachi would just show his trump card to anybody except his bro.
Itachi vs Pain
- Thread starter MinatoFLASH
- Start date
lanakau888
Active member
Brother, give it up man.
If he can get deva in tsukiyomi right when the battle starts and instantly kill him, then he can get any shinobi into it besides naruto, sasuke, madara, and hashirama, according to you. Minato and raikage being super fast doesn't have anything to do with their ability to close their eyes at a faster speed than another shinobi.
Your whole argument on how itachi can somehow stand up to pain is based on itachi one-shotting deva path with tsukiyomi right off the bat before deva can even close his eyes. This process involves itachi going from normal sharingan to mangekyou and then casting tsukiyomi, all the while deva path (who is controlled by nagato who undoubtedly knows itachi's mangekyou abilitys) is looking directly into itachi's eyes and is unable to close his eyes before the genjutsu is cast.
Then the next part of your argument places faith in amaterasu that it will INSTANTLY kill all of pains paths, before preta can absorb the fire. Not taking into account that at the start of the battle the paths are freekin standing right next to each other.
Finally, all this and itachi has absolutely no layover from using his exhausting mangekyou techniques. He can continually spam the technique one after another, even though it is show that just using tsukuyomi drops him to his knees.
lanakau888
Active member
being the leader of akatsuki, and having been alive after zetsu recorded the fight between sasuke and itachi, i'm sure nagato knows every one of itachi's abilities. Especially if his right hand man konan knows about all of madara's abilities.
No he used 2 Tsukiyomi's in part 1. And an Amaterasu. And didn't even show signs of fatigue until after he used Amaterasu on Jiraiyas toad mouth trap and that only resulted to deactivating the Sharingan. But when he fought Sasuke was when his sickness started to REALLY get to him, and was already on the verge of death and blindness. And he still outlasted Sasuke even though he was sick and used Tsukiyomi and multiple Amaterasu's and maintained Susano'o for like 6 minutes. And even reactivated it. Sasuke chakra was completley GONE even curse mark, while ITachi had a FULL complete version Susano'o. So you can't say Itachi has low chakra, cuz Sasuke had plenty, and ITachi outlasted him. SO im pretty sure ITachi can spam multiple Amaterasu's on the paths. And if he AMaterasu'es the path that revives the other paths, then no paths would be revived.
But i do not see any pains dodging Amaterasu, it's just too fast, basically instantaneous definatly faster than a rasen-shuriken. Preta path cannot Absorb an Amaterasu that is directed to him. It will instantly catch him on fire. Even if he knew it was coming, it's not like the fire is gonna be placed in front of his hands so that he "can' absorb it, it's gonna catch him right on his body, or wherever ITachi wants, like his head or something.
I dont think he cared about Itachi/sasuke fight. Only Madara was looking forward to that, because he wanted Itachi dead, so that he can attack the village. (Well order Pain to attack village after Itachi dies) THats what Madara was waiting for. But i doubt Nagato cared about Itachi/Sasuke fight, he had other things to worry about.
lanakau888
Active member
Brother, if nagato can absorb bee's lariat and take no damage AFTER being hit with it, I highly doubt preta cant absorb amaterasu after being hit with it. He doesn't absorb it with his hands, he surrounds himself with an absorption ball, and anything that touches or goes inside the ball is absorbed. Sure amaterasu can hit all the paths, but preta can absorb it, or deva can repel it.
And do you honestly believe that nagato does not know about sasuke's tsukuyomi?
Guys C'mon if the Tsukiyomi hits him how can he escape from it , even if he has god like powers it no use , sorry to say this and he is also good in ninjutsu and taijutsu's , not to say he only depends on his main techs , so i can easily say that Itachi can seal or win Pain though i like pain , well this is gona be the truth if they fight against each other U_U
Kira was Righteous
Active member
You cant get a dead body in Tsukiyomi because its brain dead and cant be totured just thought id add that for the 100th time and sealing a dead body without a soul isnt possible imo i just look at as
Strength: Pain-destroyed konoha with one move
Intelligence:Itachi-even though pain destroyed konoha with careful planning and lead the akatsaki
Speed: Pain-Deva is as fast as the 9 tails and at least two of the other paths have body flicker leading me to me believe they all do
Stamnia: Pain -destroyed Konoha,fought sage naruto,ma,pa etc and revived thousands
Handseals: Draw
Totsuka No Tsurugi
Active member
like u said "u cant get dead body in tsukoyomi" so how come fukusaku genjutsu caught them ? the answer is simple because all that path is linked to nagato so actually the one that get caught in genjutsu back then is nagato, the same thing also applied to tsukoyomi yeah u right about the part that"u cannot torture dead body" but itachi can paralyze the path like jiraiya did.
Kira was Righteous
Active member
Im not going to pretend like i know how frog genjustu works i have no idea but seeing as there all brain dead with no soul im guessing it was blocking the chakra signals or disrupting it causing them to go beserk and no Nagato was not in genjutsu how would he be talking to him+he said you got me smiling if he was paralysed in genjutsu he wouldnt be so cocky
Totsuka No Tsurugi
Active member
the one that got paralyzed in genjutsu is the path not nagato u see right jiraiya paralyzed 3 of the 6 path but unfortunately he don't know anything about the naraka path and soon after fukusaku stop the genjutsu nagato use asura path to attack and naraka path to fix them.
lanakau888
Active member
You do understand that going by your logic, itachi will easily solo anyone in the narutoverse except for sasuke and madara.
Please read what others have posted earlier in this thread before posting statements like this.
lanakau888
Active member
the genjutsu works on the paths, not nagato. Remember that genjutsu manipulates a person's chakra. We actually see what the paths are experienceing while in the jiraiya's genjutsu.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
Active member
lanakau888
Active member
So is this not saying that the paths don't get caught in genjutsu, it is nagato who gets caught in it instead?
Totsuka No Tsurugi
Active member
the one that u quote was not that in the last page, and twedros already clear that part about nagato got caught in genjutsu, so that's why i said the one that got paralyzed is the path not nagato
