Itachi vs Pain

[MinatoFLASH]

But he can trap all of them in Genjutsu, if they are even looking at him and pain ALWAYS looks at his enemies. And itachi dosent need Eye contact for all his Genjutsu. (Like when he got Orochimaru, orochimaru was behind him yet itachi got him in 1. (He uses his fingers, basically body parts like he did on naruto the 1st time. ) And he uses Crows like he did on naruto a differnt time. So getting pain in a Genjustu for a few seconds is enough to disable them. then he can seal them or burn them while their trapped in Genjutsu

He cant put 6 ppl in a genjutsu at the same time. Show me where this has been done. There is no way he can just put them all in genjutsu and seal them. Also Pain looks at the opponent but against Itachi he wud know not to and even if he does get caught in it, as i said before the other paths wud still be there.

 

[kadowade]

He cant put 6 ppl in a genjutsu at the same time. Show me where this has been done. There is no way he can just put them all in genjutsu and seal them. Also Pain looks at the opponent but against Itachi he wud know not to and even if he does get caught in it, as i said before the other paths wud still be there.

So you saying Nagato gonna fight Itachi with his eyes closed?

and i said before in my other post already about getting multiple ppl in genjutsu although i may be wrong.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

lol i said Genjutsu Is Genjutsu: Dosent matter how it's delivered.

for example: I kick a ball at you, Then I Throw a Ball at you, The same thing Happened Right, The only thing diffrent was How it was delivered, But the Outcome and result was Exactly the same.

So once again Nagato most likely isnt immune to Genjutsu.

Even jiraiya's Sound Genjutsu Turned into a Visual setting. It showed Pain inside of some Cube, Pain saw himself inside of a cube, basically thats Visualisation since PAin had to "See/Visualize" that he was inside of an cube, and he couldnt even get out.
An actual sound genjutsu is Kin's which she used on shika

And plus no where does it say Pain is immune to visual genjutsu. It woul'dve BEEN said that. So until it sais Rinnegan is immune to visual genjutsu, Its not until kishi states that somewhere atleast.

No delivery is very important you think you can through a ball harder then you can kick it no you can't so thanks for helping my argument. And like I said so6p beat ten tails witch had shannigan that is your proof if two fighters are fighting rinnegan would beat shenanigan how can you deni that cause Kishinev said it. And not immune but has counters

 

[PEIN is the answer]

So you saying Nagato gonna fight Itachi with his eyes closed?

and i said before in my other post already about getting multiple ppl in genjutsu although i may be wrong.

The kakashi reference where he told the others to close there eyes was so that itachi would have to do it to kakashi he was protecting them. And if itachi could do that then madara would use him and modify him to do infinite tsyomi witch only the ten tails is capable of who lost to so6p

 

[Jokule67]

link me up brah,way too many pages

his paths have linked vision. he can avoid direct genjutsu by using his path's bodies 2 see. itachi also has no reason 2 torture a dead body 2 death. plus he constantly surges chakra thru the bodies.

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

No, dear.Genjutsu attacks your mind;the bodies don't have mind,so who will be effected?It's Nagato himself.

And visual genjutsu works on Rinnegan.People are just making up bullshits because of which dojutsu is more powerful.Which also means that they also believe gentle fist doesn't hurt Rinnegan possessors because Rinnegan>>Byakugan.One of the most retarded bullshits in history of manga.

 

[kadowade]

No delivery is very important you think you can through a ball harder then you can kick it no you can't so thanks for helping my argument. And like I said so6p beat ten tails witch had shannigan that is your proof if two fighters are fighting rinnegan would beat shenanigan how can you deni that cause Kishinev said it. And not immune but has counters

Only Sage of 6 paths can counter genjutsu since he had senju and uzumaki dna and he the complete Sage ALL of the 6 sages combined. plus he had Izanagi which makes like an imagination Real. So6p is in a WAy diffrent leauge than nagato. SO6P Had Genjutsu to tame the beast.

Nagato is only 1 sage, like madara said. Nagato dosent have all the dna the sage of 6 paths had. So nagato is the baby version that dosent have all the abilities of the So6P. otherwise he wouldve easily broken ANY Genjutsu including Jiraiyas.

 

[DigitalMonster]

his paths have linked vision. he can avoid direct genjutsu by using his path's bodies 2 see. itachi also has no reason 2 torture a dead body 2 death. plus he constantly surges chakra thru the bodies.

who says genjutsu hits the bodies?The main target of genjutsu is your brain;hence Nagato will be in the genjutsu,because the bodies lack of mind of their own.

 

[arv993]

He cant put 6 ppl in a genjutsu at the same time. Show me where this has been done. There is no way he can just put them all in genjutsu and seal them. Also Pain looks at the opponent but against Itachi he wud know not to and even if he does get caught in it, as i said before the other paths wud still be there.

he can put nagato in genjutsu, and its over cos he is the one who controls everyone but we can't be sure if itachi's genjutsu works or not.

 

[Ame no kage]

lol i said Genjutsu Is Genjutsu: Dosent matter how it's delivered.

for example: I kick a ball at you, Then I Throw a Ball at you, The same thing Happened Right, The only thing diffrent was How it was delivered, But the Outcome and result was Exactly the same.

So once again Nagato most likely isnt immune to Genjutsu.

Even jiraiya's Sound Genjutsu Turned into a Visual setting. It showed Pain inside of some Cube, Pain saw himself inside of a cube, basically thats Visualisation since PAin had to "See/Visualize" that he was inside of an cube, and he couldnt even get out.
An actual sound genjutsu is Kin's which she used on shika

And plus no where does it say Pain is immune to visual genjutsu. It woul'dve BEEN said that. So until it sais Rinnegan is immune to visual genjutsu, Its not until kishi states that somewhere atleast.

genjutsu is a category, but by no means are the same as in ability wise, for example, itachi's genjutsu works with eye contact, Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Singing which you were referring to is based on sound, as you can see there are differences, itachi's Tsukuyomi imo is easy to overcome, one only needs stop there chakra flow...nagato only needs to stop the chakra he is feeding to his path if its under itachis genjutsu, then re-feed it when its done. thus dispelling it.

 

[AKATSUKINAGATO]

itachi

 

[kadowade]

The kakashi reference where he told the others to close there eyes was so that itachi would have to do it to kakashi he was protecting them. And if itachi could do that then madara would use him and modify him to do infinite tsyomi witch only the ten tails is capable of who lost to so6p

itachi dosent have that much chakra as the 10 tailed, And itachis Tsukiyomi isnt infinite. And plus itachi would have to go around the WHOLE world and look at EVERYBODIES Eyes that would be stupid. lol

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

And during the escape from the genjutsu,Nagato has already got his arms cut off in the reality world

 

[PEIN is the answer]

No, dear.Genjutsu attacks your mind;the bodies don't have mind,so who will be effected?It's Nagato himself.

And visual genjutsu works on Rinnegan.People are just making up bullshits because of which dojutsu is more powerful.Which also means that they also believe gentle fist doesn't hurt Rinnegan possessors because Rinnegan>>Byakugan.One of the most retarded bullshits in history of manga.

You just made b s up you don't know I dont know if rinnegan immune to shaningan genjustu but the only thing we have to go one is so6p beat ten tails with the badest shenanigan ever And if he so weak against genjustu from shenanigan itachi would not need susano to save bee and naruto he would just tsyomi him instantly and waste no time since he so smart. I only said it's more Likly he has counters for shenanigan genjustu

 

[arv993]

Only Sage of 6 paths can counter genjutsu since he had senju and uzumaki dna and he the complete Sage ALL of the 6 sages combined. plus he had Izanagi which makes like an imagination Real. So6p is in a WAy diffrent leauge than nagato. SO6P Had Genjutsu to tame the beast.

Nagato is only 1 sage, like madara said. Nagato dosent have all the dna the sage of 6 paths had. So nagato is the baby version that dosent have all the abilities of the So6P. otherwise he wouldve easily broken ANY Genjutsu including Jiraiyas.

i think u mean path not sage but yea ur right ppl think nagato is the so6p but he is way different than nagato becos he has uchiha and senju dna.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

Only Sage of 6 paths can counter genjutsu since he had senju and uzumaki dna and he the complete Sage ALL of the 6 sages combined. plus he had Izanagi which makes like an imagination Real. So6p is in a WAy diffrent leauge than nagato. SO6P Had Genjutsu to tame the beast.

Nagato is only 1 sage, like madara said. Nagato dosent have all the dna the sage of 6 paths had. So nagato is the baby version that dosent have all the abilities of the So6P. otherwise he wouldve easily broken ANY Genjutsu including Jiraiyas.

Omg jiraiya did not cast genjustu he did not do that I swear to god one more person says that i gonna loose it. 2 sage frogs that are totally bad a did a ritual senjustu that takes time so it stronger

 

[kadowade]

genjutsu is a category, but by no means are the same as in ability wise, for example, itachi's genjutsu works with eye contact, Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Singing which you were referring to is based on sound, as you can see there are differences, itachi's Tsukuyomi imo is easy to overcome, one only needs stop there chakra flow...nagato only needs to stop the chakra he is feeding to his path if its under itachis genjutsu, then re-feed it when its done. thus dispelling it.

LMFAO "Tsukiyomi is easy to overcome in your opinion?" LOL

Sorry but its already stated and proven that the only way to counter Tsukiyomi is to Have an 3 tomoe sharingan with the same flesh and bloodline limit as Itachi, and then you have to stop your chakra. (Sasuke proved that already) And its stated in the manga already. Thats why itachi said "However this Jutsu is diffrent".

 

[arv993]

You just made b s up you don't know I dont know if rinnegan immune to shaningan genjustu but the only thing we have to go one is so6p beat ten tails with the badest shenanigan ever And if he so weak against genjustu from shenanigan itachi would not need susano to save bee and naruto he would just tsyomi him instantly and waste no time since he so smart. I only said it's more Likly he has counters for shenanigan genjustu

s06p is not the same as nagato ppl make stupid assumptions like that he is only one path if he does not have uchiha or senju dna. If he had all of that he would be able to use izangi all he wants and make everything in an illusion. don't compare the so6p to nagato they are completely different.

 

[kadowade]

i think u mean path not sage but yea ur right ppl think nagato is the so6p but he is way different than nagato becos he has uchiha and senju dna.

Yeah i meant path, not sage. And yea ppl think he IS the So6P

 

[Ame no kage]

You just made b s up you don't know I dont know if rinnegan immune to shaningan genjustu but the only thing we have to go one is so6p beat ten tails with the badest shenanigan ever And if he so weak against genjustu from shenanigan itachi would not need susano to save bee and naruto he would just tsyomi him instantly and waste no time since he so smart. I only said it's more Likly he has counters for shenanigan genjustu

who said the sage of the six paths has a sharingan? imo think the sharingan came from the ten tail, its eyes resemble the sharingan opposed to the rinnegan, besides why would madara need the teen tails to use infinite Tsukuyomi which i might add bares the same resemblance of the ten tails eye.