Itachi vs Mu

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Itachi kills him with ease.

-Ribcage Susanoo blocks any sword attacks.

-Amaterasu lights him up if he ever shows himself for Jinton
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Muu takes this

-Itachi would have to build up chakra for amaterasu. Even if he holds it in like he did against Nagato when he was an Edo, he can't do this here for a long time due stamina issues

-Itachi doesn't know when Muu would show up, so he won't just use amaterasu right off the bat when it takes some preparation and Mu can already tell if he would use it or not . Remember before amaterasu, his eye bleeds and since the OP says full intel, that speaks for itself
- Mu a sensor can also tell if he's building up chakra for Amaterasu..Nagato another sensor could already tell

-Itachi's ribcage would just be there for nothing. Muu won't attack, he'll just wait for Itachi to tire out from his MS ability since he knows Itachi's stamina is low and won't keep using his MS for long..Muu knows his sword would be useless against the ribcage
 
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Itachi kills him with ease.

-Ribcage Susanoo blocks any sword attacks.

-Amaterasu lights him up if he ever shows himself for Jinton

Mu is a sensor, he would sense the chakra buildup for amaterasu and cancel jinton and go invisible. Plus, he can just jinton him from a blind spot. Or he simply stays invisible and outlasts while Itachi gets drained of chakra. If he does sinehow get hit by amaterasu, he splits in two. He avoids genjutsu by avoiding Itqchi's eyes and using sensing to navigate. I honestly don't see how Itachi wins.
 

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it all comes down to if yata can block jinton or not... and as for invisibility, sharingan should be able to see chakra... it's not like he vanishes or anything like obito.. he is still there... he cannot be detected by normal means but sharingan is not normal...
 

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Muu low diff.

He can easily fly out of Amatersu's range and nothing proves Amatersu can travel long range, when the Jutsu labelled as close range. Jinton takes his Susanoo and him as well.​
 

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Why do people overrate Itachi so much? Muu wins this Itachi can't sense Muu even with his sharingan. Muu's technique totally erases his presence. Also even if he got hit by Amaterasu (which would be highly unlikely seeing as Muu is a sensor type) he could use his body split technique. Even Itachi would be caught off guard by his body split technique.
 

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With full intel, Mu goes invisible immediately, then hits Itachi from behind with Jinton the first chance he gets. Sharingan is not going to find him for the simple reason that he has no chakra to detect whilst invisible. I also don't see Yata Mirror blocking something that hits Itachi from behind, that is, from where the Mirror is not covering. Therefore, Mu can end this pretty decisively with Jinton depending on how he uses his invisibility.
 

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With full intel, Mu goes invisible immediately, then hits Itachi from behind with Jinton the first chance he gets. Sharingan is not going to find him for the simple reason that he has no chakra to detect whilst invisible. I also don't see Yata Mirror blocking something that hits Itachi from behind, that is, from where the Mirror is not covering. Therefore, Mu can end this pretty decisively with Jinton depending on how he uses his invisibility.

Full intel can also benefit Itachi as well. Yata Mirror has been shown to be able to cover the entirety of Susano'o in a bubble like form.
 

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Full intel can also benefit Itachi as well. Yata Mirror has been shown to be able to cover the entirety of Susano'o in a bubble like form.

Remind me again, link the scan.
 

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Remind me again, link the scan.

Yata has been shown to change it's shape.

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DB says it can alter all of it's properties, size & shape are both properties. [ ]

Nothing suggests that yata cannot cover the rear of susanoo, there is only proof which tells us the contrary.

OT: Itachi mid diff, muu has no genjutsu counter, clones prevent a surprise attack, susanoo tanks jinton.
 

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Omg! Not this argument again? It has only shown to be a frontal defense.
 

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Omg! Not this argument again? It has only shown to be a frontal defense.

"Every one of it's properties"



Are we going to deny what the DB stated? Even though the manga has shown us that it's words are reliable?
 

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"Every one of it's properties"



Are we going to deny what the DB stated? Even though the manga has shown us that it's words are reliable?

Yes, I'm aware that it's capable of adjusting its properties to counter a specific technique. This so does not discuss the expansion ability and it having 360 defense. Don't you think such a feat would have been explained specifically?
 

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Yes, I'm aware that it's capable of adjusting its properties to counter a specific technique. This so does not discuss the expansion ability and it having 360 defense. Don't you think such a feat would have been explained specifically?

Let's assume that someone attacks itachi from behind, how then does yata do what the DB says it can do? If it can't cover his back then it can't block the attack which goes against it's function.

Having the manga show us yata morphing & having the DB give it no limitations should be enough to prove that it can cover from all directions, specifics aren't really relevant.
 

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Yata has been shown to change it's shape.

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DB says it can alter all of it's properties, size & shape are both properties. [ ]

Nothing suggests that yata cannot cover the rear of susanoo, there is only proof which tells us the contrary.

OT: Itachi mid diff, muu has no genjutsu counter, clones prevent a surprise attack, susanoo tanks jinton.

Are trying to say Yata can cover the entirety of susanoo?

That aura like thing isn't the shield itself...the shield hasn't changed

Nothing also suggest that Yata can cover the whole susanoo...Just because DB says it can change it's property doesn't mean it can increase it's size to cover the whole susanoo

Look at the size of that explosion, but do we see YATA covering the whole susanoo?...It's only covering the front
 

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Are trying to say Yata can cover the entirety of susanoo?

Yeah, & it can.

That aura like thing isn't the shield itself...the shield hasn't changed

The aura is part of yata, you can see clearly where susanoo & yata are separated.

Nothing also suggest that Yata can cover the whole susanoo...Just because DB says it can change it's property doesn't mean it can increase it's size to cover the whole susanoo

Size & shape are properties so yeah it does kinda mean that.

Look at the size of that explosion, but do we see YATA covering the whole susanoo?...It's only covering the front

- That's a frontal attack, what reason would yata have to cover the back?

- We don't see how yata changed during the attack, so for all we know it could have covered the front/back without us knowing, not saying that's what happened but neither of us know so we can't base any conclusions off of it.
 

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Yata has already been shown to expand...

OT: moment muu is visible, sharingan precognition then ama to the face.
 

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Yata has been shown to change it's shape.

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DB says it can alter all of it's properties, size & shape are both properties. [ ]

Nothing suggests that yata cannot cover the rear of susanoo, there is only proof which tells us the contrary.

OT: Itachi mid diff, muu has no genjutsu counter, clones prevent a surprise attack, susanoo tanks jinton.

Muu is a sensor, so he doesn't even need his vision to fight. He simply closes his eyes or avoids looking into Itachi's eyes. So genjutsu isn't really a factor. He takes care of clones by going invisible and stabbing them with his sword. When he goes visible to load up the jinton, he can do it from behind a stone pillar so amaterasu won't nail him. Susano'o can't tank jinton since Itachi has to move the shield to face Mu (the shield doesn't automatically move by itself.) And what the databook meant by "properties" was "composition". Mu can just outlast if nothing else.
 
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