[VS] Itachi vs Jiraya

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Great. Now Itachi just hit one of Jmans clone feints with his second Amaterasu. Now he's on the ground panting and exhausted. How much longer can he keep this up? One or maybe two more MS techniques before he's burned out? Not looking good for Itachi. Yikes!
Lmao dat logic!! Amaterasu will catch Jiraiya before he has time to use clones buddy.
 

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Jman makes a dozen clones. Does Itachi also make a dozen?

jiraiya didnt even use clones against a very very very elite person. he didnt use it against pain at all much less the beginning. why would he use it against itachi? he wont.
 

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Itachi counters all of Jiraiya's clones with clones of his own.

Clones divides ones chakra pool. If Itachi were to do that, each clone would be limited to what jutsu they'll be able to perform
 

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Lmao dat logic!! Amaterasu will catch Jiraiya before he has time to use clones buddy.

So in between the time Itachi molds up his chakra, Jman can't form 1 hand seal? That logic though.
 

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takes a second to activate ms

besides jiraiya rarely uses clones so nope

It takes a blink of an eye to activate sharingan. From observation Jiriaya easily creates clones. Regardless Amaterasu can be intercepted
 

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ama cant be intercepted

It can be. It's been done more Obito and Bee can an attempt. Just put something between you and your opponent. In this instance, katon, etc.
 

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Manga disagrees.

ay barely dodged it

jiraiya can't dodge it unless ur saying he's as fast as a v2 prepped ay

jiraiya doesnt have enough speed feats to dodge it

and since we have no feats of him using clones against top opponents

it's safe to assume he wont and will fall prey to ama
 

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You don't need to dodge Amaterasu to counter it. Speed isn't the only solution. If you possess the required ninjutsu arsenal, you can put a shield in between the jutsu rendering the Amaterasu attack useless
 

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You don't need to dodge Amaterasu to counter it. Speed isn't the only solution. If you possess the required ninjutsu arsenal, you can put a shield in between the jutsu rendering the Amaterasu attack useless

i agree with you! except, if you can't respond fast enough/have good enough reaction speed, it's useless u know? jiraiya doesnt have good enough speed in order to do it, plus he doesn't actually have any jutsu to block ama even if he could react in time which he can't
 

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i agree with you! except, if you can't respond fast enough/have good enough reaction speed, it's useless u know? jiraiya doesnt have good enough speed in order to do it, plus he doesn't actually have any jutsu to block ama even if he could react in time which he can't

You. Taking into consideration the steps it takes to use Amaterasu and the visual (eye bleeding) one can react
 

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i agree with you! except, if you can't respond fast enough/have good enough reaction speed, it's useless u know? jiraiya doesnt have good enough speed in order to do it, plus he doesn't actually have any jutsu to block ama even if he could react in time which he can't
He can put it before hand. The jutsu requires a prep time especially in Itachi's case
 

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No clones require hands signs etc. Kakashi manged to use His Ms before getting hit by a Susanoo arrow.

His sharingan is always active, kamui is faster than Amaterasu, etc
 

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No one please take advice from Bogard when it comes to a Jiraiya debate he really think Needle Jizo is a counter for ama when Jiraya hair turns back normal Ama will still be on his head l00l excuse the double.
 

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You. Taking into consideration the steps it takes to use Amaterasu and the visual (eye bleeding) one can react

jiraiya doesnt know what the eye bleeding means.

he has no intel on amaterasu besides the fact that it's fire and it's black

meaning that jiraiya seeing itachi's eye bleed means nothing

and no, seeing that a jutsu is about to happen and having the speed to dodge it or react to it in time or 2 diff things. jiraiya has neither.
 

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Since amaterasu seems to be a hot topic, I will list the ways Jiraiya can counter it.

-Fire sealing scroll (situational obviously)
-Needle Jizo
-Frog summons to be used as meat shields (not in character but works regardless)
-Kage bunshins
-Substitution jutsu
-Dust cloud from Ma (SM only)
-Stay out of Amaterasu's range
-Smoke bombs
 
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