Itachi vs. Jiraiya (Sharingan only)
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Itachi would sweep Jiraiya with ease
Jiraiya couldn't even beat a no arm jutsu using unhealthy Orochimaru
Even a sick worn out itachi took out a 8 headed serpent mode Orochimaru with just the Totsuka he just kept MS Activate just to mess with Sasuke i don't see jiariya taking out no 3 tomoe itachi
Jiraiya couldn't even beat a no arm jutsu using unhealthy Orochimaru
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Even a sick worn out itachi took out a 8 headed serpent mode Orochimaru with just the Totsuka he just kept MS Activate just to mess with Sasuke i don't see jiariya taking out no 3 tomoe itachi
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Lmao, your comparison is laughable. It's just what i've said. Orochimaru isn't Jiraya. They don't have the same fighting style. Funny that cuz you have no arguments to show how Itachi beats Jiraya you try to compare with Orochimaru. And even in your comparison you lack of common sense. Jiraya was druged by Tsunade. He could not even use ninjutsu or summoning technique(at least, they were weak). He didn't even try to enter Sage mode. He had many jutsus he couldn't do at that time.
And again, Itachi got almost owned by Jiraya if it wasn't Amaterasu.
Ah, in this case anyone would escape Genjutsus by just stopping the Chakra flow. And Naruto is the best example that this isn't always working. Above we are talking about the Sharingan, which includes extra powerful Genjutsus which couldn't even be broken by Orochimaru who has according to the Databook even better Chances due to his intelligence and full score at Genjutsu. Jiraiya told Naruto a method then, but whether this method is helpful is the other question.
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Dude, they weren't even fighting, Jiraiya used his technique while Itachi was fighting Sasuke. Did Itachi own Nagato because he was fighting Naruto and Bee, without concentrating on Itachi?
And above, Itachi hadn't the intention to kill anyone - Otherwise he would have killed Jiraiya with Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu already in the beginning, instead of fighting Sasuke.
Must I explain ll these things?
Uhhh you know during that fight Naruto was casually clashing and trying to talk right? And you know where Bee and Naruto had to keep saying "We ****ing know already!" and..uhh Bee had time to react. And uhh...Itachi had to retreat against his seven swords. The third panel probably hurts your argument if anything
And I hope you know the second page even though Bee DID notice him, that most basic genin did the exact same thing.
But, since he's so fast you should have other ways to quantify his speed other than just those 3. So anything?
So? Plenty of times characters with 3s were able to react to 4.5s or so on multiple occasions. Jiraiya is a 4.5
Itachi isn't "effortlessly killing Jiraiya before he makes 1 handsign" that's complete and utter bullshit and you've given zero proof for him being able to do that(or being able to do ANYTHING, actually, let alone counter any of Jiraiya's attacks)
You're the one who thinks Itachi wins, you're going to give your proof as to how he counters his attacks. I already gave his counters to genjutsu, and Itachi would die before he gets a chance? Where the hell is your proof for Itachi stopping any of Jiraiya's attacks? Youi don't have any...AGAIN. Seriously, it's pretty clear you're an Itachi fan at this point who will never admit you're wrong under any circumstance, even when all the proof has been posted and Itachi gets destroyed, and you're unable to post proof to back him up.
And he never beat Orochimaru with genjutsu. EVER.
What the hell? He's not dodging any of these. When has his speed ever shown running speed anyway? Clashing in a small skirmish with Bee is FAR from escaping jutsu of Jiraiya's range or running that far out of range.
Oh yeah, and I'll post the pics on screen this time so that you don't bullshit your way out of it by completely ignoring the blue links. Because if you did, you either wouldn't be claiming Itachi could "escape the range", or you're just even further in denial.
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Oh and did anyone decide to mention that the last one was when Jiraiya was drugged and couldn't even perform 1 kuchiyose properly??
Lol, and that makes up for Itachi's lack of response to ALL OF JIRAIYA'S TECHNIQUES?
Yes he does. But since you think Itachi wins, you HAVE to prove what his counters are. If you don't do that, then Itachi loses. By this point I know for pretty much a fact that you had absolutely no support for your claims in your original post and you were outright bullshitting. Where's the proof? What ARE his answers to Jiraiya's attacks? Unless this post was a subtle way of admitting you were wrong and that Jiraiya's attacks destroy Itachi and he HAS no counter of course.
Uhh, no they don't. Itachi never even attempted genjutsu against Jiraiya the first time and he had to resort to MS. Jiraiya has effective counters to all of Itachi's attacks, and you just damn well now admitted that Itachi has NO COUNTERS TO ANY OF HIS TECHNIQUES. 3s in the DB react to much higher, and Kakashi managed to react to Itachi's jutsu in part 1 multiple times in a row. All Jiraiya has to do to make most of his jutsu that you ADMITTED HE HAS NO COUNTER FOR, is make 1 handsign. Itachi dies, genjutsu won't do shit.
Really? This never happened on multiple occasions, Team 7 vs Shoten Itachi, Konoha jonins vs Itachi, Jiraiya vs Itachi and Kisame(HMM!), Orochimaru vs Itachi, in fact the only time I ever recall it happening was during a fight with reckless insane-bomber Deidara, and during Sasuke who willingly clashed genjutsu beecause he had sharingan. So enough with the bullshit now, give proof to how Itachi effectively counters Jiraiya's techniques that I posted or he loses.
Stated by "manga facts", it appears Jiraiya has about 2 dozen jutsu that destroy Itachi that you've given absolutely no support Itachi can do shit against and continue to ignore it. Hell you even admitted that Itachi can't counter most of them. So good debate I guess, concession accepted?
Also, if you want to go that route, stated by Manga Facts, actually Itachi himself! He admits that him and Kisame together probably wouldn't be able to beat Jiraiya(and he had no knowledge of his Sage Mode), and that if he couldn't have used MS then he would have died vs Gamaguchi Shibari and had to retreat or he'd be dead. But hell, Jiraiya has so much going for him that I'll give you those two...it's not like Itachi can respond to any of Jiraiya's attacks that make him stomp.
Except the part where he does, and you're continuing to BS along and be oblivious to and neglect the evidence of Jiraiya stomping and refusing to post counters to Jiraiya's techniques(because you can't).
Like i've said Orochimaru is careless cuz he thinks he is immortal. Just look what happened when he got hit by totsuka. He thought it was nothing cuz he thought his immortality could save him.
And for the genjutsu don't compare a newby in counter genjutsu like Naruto with Jiraya. He only tried to show him how to counter genjutsus. Naruto couldn't go through it cuz he hadn't grown enough at that time and lacked of experience. It's even what Itachi said "he has grown, but not enough"
Like i've said, Jiraya has multiple counters to genjutsu. He can even make kage bunshins if he wants, and we all know that genjutsus are useless against Kage bunshins
@Joki, you really have to chill, who you think you are? 
And false, Genjutsus are working on every being, neither Orochimaru nor Deidara could do anything against it, just like Naruto was without a chance and Kakashi was mental destroyed with a mere eye contact. Yaying that Jiraiya is experienced and would therefore avoid Genjutsus is nothing but mere assumptions. Just like saying that Itachi would avoid most of Jiraiyas techniques because he was Anbu leader with 13 and is experienced as well. I don't say that base Itachi has counters for all of Jiraiyas techniques because he doesn't have, but also Jiraiya doesn't have counters for all of Itachis techniques.
And yeah Joki, if you contradict me even after the Databook and Manga proved you wrong, makes it any sense to further discuss with you?
And for the future, don't be so conceited, this is just a forum where users are debating, not more.
And false, Genjutsus are working on every being, neither Orochimaru nor Deidara could do anything against it, just like Naruto was without a chance and Kakashi was mental destroyed with a mere eye contact. Yaying that Jiraiya is experienced and would therefore avoid Genjutsus is nothing but mere assumptions. Just like saying that Itachi would avoid most of Jiraiyas techniques because he was Anbu leader with 13 and is experienced as well. I don't say that base Itachi has counters for all of Jiraiyas techniques because he doesn't have, but also Jiraiya doesn't have counters for all of Itachis techniques.And yeah Joki, if you contradict me even after the Databook and Manga proved you wrong, makes it any sense to further discuss with you?
And for the future, don't be so conceited, this is just a forum where users are debating, not more
.I'm not saying he will win "only" with Kage bunshins since he has too much jutsus that could finish Itachi in one move if he wants. If Itachi uses Kagebunshins also, from your point of view who will run out of chakra first?
When did Itachi run out of Chakra? After he used several Genjutsus, Tsukuyomi, Katon-Techniques, five Amaterasus and Susanoo for 5-10 times in his sick stage? Forming Kagebunshins or using Genjutsus were never a problem for Itachi. The Itachi who cast an illusion on Naruto had only 30% of his strength.
Not saying he doesn't use kage bunshin, but saying he can't use kage bunshins like you said. Just to make "one" clone, it takes 50% of your chakra. Itachi has a poor chakra level. So wasting 50% of his chakra without thinking is already dangerous and if he continues to go this way, he will naturally run out of chakra quickly. Against Naruto, he never used kage bunshin. It was a genjutsu
I think I'm a person who's correct and who actually backs up their posts with proof and not baseless claims to why their favorite character wins.@Joki, you really have to chill, who you think you are?
DDeidara barged into the fight brainlessly and recklessly, and Orochimaru didn't plan on countering because he willingly made eye contact and willingly basked in the glory of the sharingan and willingly planned to use fushi tensei.
Psh, oh you know, Jiraiya NEVER uses bunshin feints, Kakashi totally didn't beat Itachi when he caught him in a bunshin feint, and the way you avoid and refuse in every way possible to give any proof that Itachi can counter any of he techniques I posted on Jiraiya's side with support as to why they win isn't assumptions.
So you admit he can't counter them.
HA! alright then man, good debate, but you just admit that Itachi loses since he can't counter any of Jiraiya's techs. Good debate man good debate. Finally convinced one Itachi fan who protects Itachi to the ends of the earth something, maybe there's a chance(there isn't).
Bunshin Feint, not an idiot, not Deidara, knows about genjutsu, yatai kuzushi, gamaguchi shibari, gamayu endan, water bullets, lions mane. There's plenty more as well. But you still avoided(just like you avoided responding to anything that proves why Itachi loses as usual) why Itachi didn't even attempt any form of Genjutsu whatsoever against Jiraiya teh first time, or hadn't used any genjutsu before Jiraiya makes 1 handsign vs anyone in half his fights...hmmmm
Contradict you? You mean prove you wrong? Then no, it wouldn't make sense to further discuss, because at that point you would have conceded and agreed that Jiraiya wins.
Oh and your DB thing? I did prove that wrong, you jsut avoided it since it proved you wrong as usual. Like I said, directly quoted from my last post. Most character react to 1 higher DB stat easily, and 3s have reacted to much higher time and time again. Sakura and Chiyo for example, 3 and 4 respectively react to 4.5 Sasori, and the 4 point Kakuzu solos Team 10 including 4.5 Kakashi. Kakashi with a 4 reacted to Itachi with ease and kept up with him making multiple jutsu and genjutsu wasnt even an equation as a 5, Naruto with a 2 reacted to Kiba a 3.5, 3.5 Naruto reacted to Kakuzu who was a 4. Naruto witha 3.5 also reacted to Deidara who was a 4.5. Gaara reacted to Deidara 4.5 with a 3, Hidan with 3.5 kept up with Kakashi 4.5. Kisame with a 4(and chakra split into 1/3rd) reacts and kept up with Gai with straight 5. The list goes on and on and on and on and on. I could literally do this all day.
Jiraiya is 4.5, he can easily react to Itachi. No, not "react to" he doesn't even have to do that shit. Like I said, he just makes 1 handsign.
Yeah I know, I just don't like it when you post a picture of the color Red and someone is put in such a bad position where they're too prideful to admit they're wrong that they call it Blue.And for the future, don't be so conceited, this is just a forum where users are debating, not more
UchiGod Itachi
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Your intellect is laughable because kabuto said that the 3rd Death Reaper Seal did more damage to Orochimaru they he thought Orochimaru wasn't at full strenght either .
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So your saying Jiraiya has more jutsu then Itachi someone who copies jutsu with a sharingan? I lack common sense look who's talking Orochimaru couldn't use Ninjutsu or Summoning period. Totsuka would have broken threw it :sy:
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Why are you showing me this? Where have i said Orochimaru wasn't restricted at that time? What i say is that "you" did fail to notice Jiraya was restricted also. Weak ninjutsu or summon cuz he was drugged, no SM. He wasn't even fighting to kill
And yes, Jiraya has much more ninjutsu techniques than Itachi. Sharingan doesn't mean you can copy all the techniques. Itachi is not kakashi. Itachi doesn't have strong ninjutsus so far we know eycept from MS
