geez tell em joki
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but itachi easy diff if its base itachi
Yeah, most of the jutsu I listed were all from Base Jiraiya though, I just edited it to add like 3 SM techs at the end.
Chill your life, dude.
Itachi wasted his Mangekyou techniques purposely, he could beat Kakashi and Sasuke without easily but used them. Same goes for Jiraiya.
Oh really? When was that ever said? And do you have proof base Itachi has anything in his arsenal whatsoever to beat Jiraiya?
In fact, Itachi has much more to offer.
Realy? He doesn't. Jiraiya has dozens more jutsu than Itachi and is far more versatile, fast, strong, and nearly all of his jutsu would
destroy base Itachi. You've given literally no proof to suggest otherwise, you pretty much completely avoided all of the jutsu I listed that fodderize Itachi
His Ninjutsu is better indeed, since he can copy Jiraiyas moves,
So since he can "copy Jiraiya's moves" only then is his ninjutsu better? I see what you're going for here. Unfortunately he doesn't have a toad contract which voids every "copy" of quite a lot of jutsu that fodderizes him, and can't copy Yomi Numa when he's sunk 50 meters under it.
he is faster than Jiraiya (If I really have to back up this common knowledge, you may be stupid?),
Nope, you have to back it up. I guess I'm stupid, but I don't recall any impressive speed from Itachi whatsoever, so as far as I'm concerned, that's bullshit.
his usage of weapons is much better by feats an much smarter he is, too.
Like deducing that Madara was alive and recalling specific words on specific paragraphs of specific chapters of specific pages of one of his many books on a whim on his death bed?
Above Itachi is using powerful Genjutsus which one shot Deidara and a Sannin.
Uhh, it never one-shot a Sannin, and nota ll Sannin are equal
Don't talk the shit out of you, Itachi is better in every respect and since he is smarter and faster, it is common sense whose techniques will be successfully first.
Your proof for any of that? You don't have any. Jiraiya destroys. He makes one handsign, GG Itachi.
And I won't go for a search in order to show you Jiraiyas statement, everyone who folowws the Manga or Anime will know that these were Jiraiyas words indeed.
I don't recall that. I recall Kakashi saying something similar. Claiming Jiraiya said it and refusing to post scans is also bullshit, you're avoiding to support
any claim in your arguments. I wonder why? Maybe because you
can't?
Oh what's this? You're going to respond and claim that you CAN in fact prove it and it's just soooo obvious that I'm an idiot if I don't realize it and you won't get the proof since it's so obvious? Riiiiiiiiiiight. Prove your baseless claims, Itachi can't counter any of Jiraiya's attacks
And after Orochimaru, with his full Genjutsu and intelligence score, failed in front of Itachis mere Genjutsu, you can bring up some facts proofing that Jiraiya can avoid the Genjutsus with success.
Okay, Orochimaru willingly did that when he used Fushi Tensei, Jiraiya would never do that. And where's your proof that Itachi will do shit to any of the attacks I listed and 3 boss summons? You can't? He gets stomped. I
love how you literally
completely ignored every single technique.
If Itachi wins he
has to have a counter for all of them, except the part where he doesn't and you're avoiding posting the "proof" on it because it doesn't exist and you were just BSing the whole time, you had no proof for your claims or anything like that whatsoever.
After all, Genjutsus are Itachis basic fight style and he is using them in the very beginning of the battle, without the opponent is even noticing it.
He won't get a chance when drowned under 50 meters of a yomi numa, or crushed under a giant boss toad, or crushed in the stomach of Gamaguchi Shibari, or burned to death by a katon hundreds of times the size of Gamabuna, the list goes on and on and on and on with things Itachi can't do shit about.
Another thing(aside with the dozens of others) that you avoided: That Itachi had to use MS to escape Gamaguchi Shibari, and if genjutsu was so useless why didn't he just use basic genjutsu to one-shot Jiraiya and leave, hm? He used MS on Kakashi and since he was "purposefully using MS" then it would have been easy right? Oh yeah, but that's just 1 thing you have to answer as to how he counters Gamaguchi Shibari without MS. There's still about a dozen or more jutsu that you've still given absolutely no counter for and refuse to(because you can't and Itachi dies to them).
